[RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread Rusty Click 
My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and 
planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had 
another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately 
turned our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.

We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to 
shorten up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal about 
camping, cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non 
rail-trail road rides.  Thank goodness for our support!

We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of 
their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the 
Underground Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail, 
ride to Washington Dulles airport.

My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't 
discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during 
the ride.

Here (hopefully) are some pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcpgh/

Cheers,
Rusty

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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread René Sterental 
I'd be interested to hear more about what you learned, and why was it
almost an ordeal.

René


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:

> My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and
> planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had
> another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately
> turned our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.
>
> We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to
> shorten up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal about
> camping, cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non
> rail-trail road rides.  Thank goodness for our support!
>
> We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of
> their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the
> Underground Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail,
> ride to Washington Dulles airport.
>
> My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't
> discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during
> the ride.
>
> Here (hopefully) are some pics
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcpgh/
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty
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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread Dale Click 
Absolutely!

We've done Inn to Inn type rides before, DC-PGH, out and back to Cumberland MD, 
etc., but this was my first primarily camping trip.  We learned quit a bit, and 
are thankful for it.

Next up,  the Katy Trail!


Rusty
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On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Grand adventure! Fantastic! Multiday touring is a whole different beastie 
> than S24Os, that's for sure. We're doing a family destination 
> camping/running/biking trip next week, which is another way to go too. 
> Between locations I'll do an equivilant of a sag wagon day, then get picked 
> up after they do the museums (which I can't do anyway for my bludgeoned 
> brain) and go on to our next destination camp. A great way to travel with 
> people of highly varied capabilities (kids, in this case), as it has 
> something for everyone.
> 
> Are you glad you went?
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> On Friday, April 26, 2013 3:12:01 PM UTC-6, Rusty Click wrote:
> My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and 
> planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had 
> another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately turned 
> our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.
> 
> We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to shorten 
> up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal about camping, 
> cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non rail-trail road 
> rides.  Thank goodness for our support!
> 
> We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of 
> their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the Underground 
> Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail, ride to 
> Washington Dulles airport.
> 
> My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't 
> discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during the 
> ride.
> 
> Here (hopefully) are some pics
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcpgh/
> 
> Cheers,
> Rusty
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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread mikel66...@juno.com 
ive dont the Natchez, C & O towpath, and the Katy in that order. all great 
trips but prefer the car-free dirt roads best

mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread Dale Click 
Rene,

We had originally planned 6 riding days, which in hindsight, was overly 
ambitious.  There was supposed to be a 100 plus mile day, a couple of 70's, 
etc.  Add in the weather, and we would never have made any of our planned 
camping arrangements.  I think the pressure of trying to 'make the mileage', 
and get to planned campsites, would have cut into the enjoyment of the ride.  
And that's what it's supposed to be about, right?  So with the luxury of the 
support van, we immediately dumped the 'got to get there' attitude, and enjoyed 
the beautiful Natchez Trace.

Many of our fellow campers were a joy to meet, and talk to, and planned AM 
departure times quickly vanished with the good conversation, and the extra cup 
of coffee and ginger snaps!   The vast majority of the drivers along the Trace 
were very courteous too.  Always a plus.

We learned to set reasonable daily distances to allow time to set up, not be 
rushed in our  personal preparation, and cooking.   Regarding cooking, I 
learned to love the new Trangia stove, and it's ease of use and versatility.  I 
made eggs, heated water for coffee, pasta dinners, and had planned on some 
breakfast oatmeal with honey until the raccoons got into the food(another 
lesson learned)!  Also, we learned to allow time to sightsee, and enjoy the 
company along the way.   We found out too, about advertised camp sites, like 
those listed on NPS maps,  vs available sites, like KOA"s and parks in nearby 
towns.  Also, that there's little privacy in a campsite if you're there with 
other people around.

A great experience, and I plan on enjoying more trips like this.


Rusty
click...@gmail.com
Pittsburgh, PA


On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:43 PM, René Sterental  wrote:

> I'd be interested to hear more about what you learned, and why was it almost 
> an ordeal.
>  
> René
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:
> My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and 
> planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had 
> another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately turned 
> our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.
> 
> We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to shorten 
> up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal about camping, 
> cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non rail-trail road 
> rides.  Thank goodness for our support!
> 
> We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of 
> their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the Underground 
> Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail, ride to 
> Washington Dulles airport.
> 
> My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't 
> discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during the 
> ride.
> 
> Here (hopefully) are some pics
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcpgh/
> 
> Cheers,
> Rusty
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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Ah. Yes, when I've done tours I've never pre-planned where I will camp, 
instead just seeing where the day takes me (or us, when I was with others). 
That's easier done in the forest where you can camp anywhere you set up a 
tent, so long as you have water.

The Katy Trail looks like a great next trip. Enjoy!

On Friday, April 26, 2013 4:35:35 PM UTC-6, Rusty Click wrote:
>
> Rene,
>
> We had originally planned 6 riding days, which in hindsight, was overly 
> ambitious.  There was supposed to be a 100 plus mile day, a couple of 70's, 
> etc.  Add in the weather, and we would never have made any of our planned 
> camping arrangements.  I think the pressure of trying to 'make the 
> mileage', and get to planned campsites, would have cut into the enjoyment 
> of the ride.  And that's what it's supposed to be about, right?  So with 
> the luxury of the support van, we immediately dumped the 'got to get there' 
> attitude, and enjoyed the beautiful Natchez Trace.
>
> Many of our fellow campers were a joy to meet, and talk to, and planned AM 
> departure times quickly vanished with the good conversation, and the extra 
> cup of coffee and ginger snaps!   The vast majority of the drivers along 
> the Trace were very courteous too.  Always a plus.
>
> We learned to set reasonable daily distances to allow time to set up, not 
> be rushed in our  personal preparation, and cooking.   Regarding cooking, I 
> learned to love the new Trangia stove, and it's ease of use and 
> versatility.  I made eggs, heated water for coffee, pasta dinners, and had 
> planned on some breakfast oatmeal with honey until the raccoons got into 
> the food(another lesson learned)!  Also, we learned to allow time to 
> sightsee, and enjoy the company along the way.   We found out too, about 
> advertised camp sites, like those listed on NPS maps,  vs available sites, 
> like KOA"s and parks in nearby towns.  Also, that there's little privacy in 
> a campsite if you're there with other people around.
>
> A great experience, and I plan on enjoying more trips like this.
>
>
> Rusty
> clic...@gmail.com 
> Pittsburgh, PA
>
>  
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:43 PM, René Sterental > 
> wrote:
>
> I'd be interested to hear more about what you learned, and why was it 
> almost an ordeal.
>  
> René
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Rusty Click 
> > wrote:
>
>> My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and 
>> planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had 
>> another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately 
>> turned our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.
>>
>> We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to 
>> shorten up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal about 
>> camping, cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non 
>> rail-trail road rides.  Thank goodness for our support!
>>
>> We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of 
>> their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the 
>> Underground Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail, 
>> ride to Washington Dulles airport.
>>
>> My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't 
>> discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during 
>> the ride.
>>
>> Here (hopefully) are some pics
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcpgh/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rusty
>>
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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread René Sterental 
Thank you! Excellent lessons!

I have a dream of one day doing one of these, hopefully with my son. Still
far from ready for it, both mentally and physically. One of my goals this
year is to get started on making that dream a reality, so I'm going on RBWs
S24O tomorrow and feel both anxious and excited about it. Unfortunately, my
son has Water Polo games and won't be able to join me.

I'm hoping I'll be able to do another one soon, and this time I'll bring
him along. Let's see how I survive the climbing tomorrow... :-)

René


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Ah. Yes, when I've done tours I've never pre-planned where I will
> camp, instead just seeing where the day takes me (or us, when I was with
> others). That's easier done in the forest where you can camp anywhere you
> set up a tent, so long as you have water.
>
> The Katy Trail looks like a great next trip. Enjoy!
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2013 4:35:35 PM UTC-6, Rusty Click wrote:
>
>> Rene,
>>
>> We had originally planned 6 riding days, which in hindsight, was overly
>> ambitious.  There was supposed to be a 100 plus mile day, a couple of 70's,
>> etc.  Add in the weather, and we would never have made any of our planned
>> camping arrangements.  I think the pressure of trying to 'make the
>> mileage', and get to planned campsites, would have cut into the enjoyment
>> of the ride.  And that's what it's supposed to be about, right?  So with
>> the luxury of the support van, we immediately dumped the 'got to get there'
>> attitude, and enjoyed the beautiful Natchez Trace.
>>
>> Many of our fellow campers were a joy to meet, and talk to, and planned
>> AM departure times quickly vanished with the good conversation, and the
>> extra cup of coffee and ginger snaps!   The vast majority of the drivers
>> along the Trace were very courteous too.  Always a plus.
>>
>> We learned to set reasonable daily distances to allow time to set up, not
>> be rushed in our  personal preparation, and cooking.   Regarding cooking, I
>> learned to love the new Trangia stove, and it's ease of use and
>> versatility.  I made eggs, heated water for coffee, pasta dinners, and had
>> planned on some breakfast oatmeal with honey until the raccoons got into
>> the food(another lesson learned)!  Also, we learned to allow time to
>> sightsee, and enjoy the company along the way.   We found out too, about
>> advertised camp sites, like those listed on NPS maps,  vs available sites,
>> like KOA"s and parks in nearby towns.  Also, that there's little privacy in
>> a campsite if you're there with other people around.
>>
>> A great experience, and I plan on enjoying more trips like this.
>>
>>
>> Rusty
>> clic...@gmail.com
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>>
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:43 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear more about what you learned, and why was it
>> almost an ordeal.
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:
>>
>>> My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and
>>> planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had
>>> another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately
>>> turned our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.
>>>
>>> We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to
>>> shorten up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal about
>>> camping, cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non
>>> rail-trail road rides.  Thank goodness for our support!
>>>
>>> We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of
>>> their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the
>>> Underground Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail,
>>> ride to Washington Dulles airport.
>>>
>>> My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't
>>> discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during
>>> the ride.
>>>
>>> Here (hopefully) are some pics
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**dcpgh/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rusty
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Natchez Trace ride

2013-04-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE 
Rusty: great photos and story. One day i will do a multi day tour,
though it will have to wait until I get money to latch on to a guided
one. Thank God I just signed a resume writing contract for a prime so
who knows, perhaps at summer's end 

On 4/26/13, Dale Click  wrote:
> Rene,
>
> We had originally planned 6 riding days, which in hindsight, was overly
> ambitious.  There was supposed to be a 100 plus mile day, a couple of 70's,
> etc.  Add in the weather, and we would never have made any of our planned
> camping arrangements.  I think the pressure of trying to 'make the mileage',
> and get to planned campsites, would have cut into the enjoyment of the ride.
>  And that's what it's supposed to be about, right?  So with the luxury of
> the support van, we immediately dumped the 'got to get there' attitude, and
> enjoyed the beautiful Natchez Trace.
>
> Many of our fellow campers were a joy to meet, and talk to, and planned AM
> departure times quickly vanished with the good conversation, and the extra
> cup of coffee and ginger snaps!   The vast majority of the drivers along the
> Trace were very courteous too.  Always a plus.
>
> We learned to set reasonable daily distances to allow time to set up, not be
> rushed in our  personal preparation, and cooking.   Regarding cooking, I
> learned to love the new Trangia stove, and it's ease of use and versatility.
>  I made eggs, heated water for coffee, pasta dinners, and had planned on
> some breakfast oatmeal with honey until the raccoons got into the
> food(another lesson learned)!  Also, we learned to allow time to sightsee,
> and enjoy the company along the way.   We found out too, about advertised
> camp sites, like those listed on NPS maps,  vs available sites, like KOA"s
> and parks in nearby towns.  Also, that there's little privacy in a campsite
> if you're there with other people around.
>
> A great experience, and I plan on enjoying more trips like this.
>
>
> Rusty
> click...@gmail.com
> Pittsburgh, PA
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:43 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
>
>> I'd be interested to hear more about what you learned, and why was it
>> almost an ordeal.
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:
>> My friend Ed and I decided to stretch out of our S24O comfort zone, and
>> planned to ride the Natchez Trace, end to end.  We were camping, but had
>> another friend willing to drive a support van for us, which ultimately
>> turned our ride from an ordeal, into a positive learning experience.
>>
>> We had weather delays, and ambitious mileage goals that caused us to
>> shorten up to 300 out of 444 possible miles.  We learned a great deal
>> about camping, cooking,  packing, and realistic miles per day, when on non
>> rail-trail road rides.  Thank goodness for our support!
>>
>> We met many wonderful people, including an Australian couple, and one of
>> their friends, who were on day 45 of an LA to New Orleans, up the
>> Underground Railroad route to Niagra Falls, and then down the GAP trail,
>> ride to Washington Dulles airport.
>>
>> My Hillborne rode great, but suffered a fractured rear rim, that wasn't
>> discovered till I returned home!  Glad it didn't fail dramatically during
>> the ride.
>>
>> Here (hopefully) are some pics
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcpgh/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rusty
>>
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