Re: [RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-19 Thread lukeheller
I rode a canti-rom for my first year or two of brevets. 
It was capable machine. 

Now primarily riding a custom low trail ti Carver, S couplers, 700x35 with 
fenders, front rack. 

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Re: [RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-19 Thread Jim Bronson
Fenders.  I forgot, Fenders Fenders Fenders at all times.  Running the
cream Longboards I got from RBW 5 years ago, still.

If I encounter riders without fenders in the rain I try to get away from
them, by speeding up if I can, or slowing down if I must.  I've gotten sick
from eating other riders road grime in the rain before and don't care to
repeat the experience.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:53 PM Jim Bronson  wrote:

> I have ridden 23,000 km of brevets on my older Road Standard/Custom.  And
> a couple hundred KM on my Redwood.  I'm now running 650b with Loup Loup
> Pass, Tektro R559 brakes, Pacenti PL23 rims.  44/28 up front and 11-32 in
> the back.  46cm Noodles, Tektro levers, Microshift 10 speed bar ends.
> Carradice Barley in the back.  I have a SON Deluxe Widebody and would not
> dream of running night time rando rides without it.  Light is one of the
> Busch and Mueller LEDs that has 80 lux, fork crown mounted.  I keep a
> battery powered light in the trunk bag for emergencies only.
>
> I have dreamed for a long time to have a full custom 650B purpose built
> rando bike, but it has of yet gotten high enough on my priority list to get
> done.  I would like a titanium Tournasol PBP model.  Maybe someday.  For
> now my current bike is a pretty swell steed and it's pretty free of vices,
> other than rust.
>
> I have to admit my rando riding has tapered off quite a bit since I became
> a father but maybe in a few years I can get back riding full series and
> such.  For now I'm happy just to get out and do a populaire.
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:28 PM lambbo  wrote:
>
>> How many people here are active randonneurs and ride their Rivendells?
>> What is your set-up? Are your priorities fenders or tire size? Do you run
>> battery or dynamo?  What size bag do you carry if you have one? Does
>> anything change from 200K to 600 or 1200K on your rig?  Pictures
>> appreciated (because...it's an addiction).
>>
>> My Roadini is most comfortable on Jack Browns but I missed a 300K because
>> I didn't want to ride 12 hours in heavy rain without them. Now I have 28s
>> and fenders, which is fine but not the same cushion on the longer rides
>> (I'll survive). I have dynamo on my Cheviot and love it for commuting, but
>> am hesitant to invest just for 4 rides a year when batteries work fine.
>> Small Saddle-Sack.  I love my setup, I'm really just curious what other
>> people are doing with their Rivendells on Brevets.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-19 Thread Jim Bronson
I have ridden 23,000 km of brevets on my older Road Standard/Custom.  And a
couple hundred KM on my Redwood.  I'm now running 650b with Loup Loup Pass,
Tektro R559 brakes, Pacenti PL23 rims.  44/28 up front and 11-32 in the
back.  46cm Noodles, Tektro levers, Microshift 10 speed bar ends.
Carradice Barley in the back.  I have a SON Deluxe Widebody and would not
dream of running night time rando rides without it.  Light is one of the
Busch and Mueller LEDs that has 80 lux, fork crown mounted.  I keep a
battery powered light in the trunk bag for emergencies only.

I have dreamed for a long time to have a full custom 650B purpose built
rando bike, but it has of yet gotten high enough on my priority list to get
done.  I would like a titanium Tournasol PBP model.  Maybe someday.  For
now my current bike is a pretty swell steed and it's pretty free of vices,
other than rust.

I have to admit my rando riding has tapered off quite a bit since I became
a father but maybe in a few years I can get back riding full series and
such.  For now I'm happy just to get out and do a populaire.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:28 PM lambbo  wrote:

> How many people here are active randonneurs and ride their Rivendells?
> What is your set-up? Are your priorities fenders or tire size? Do you run
> battery or dynamo?  What size bag do you carry if you have one? Does
> anything change from 200K to 600 or 1200K on your rig?  Pictures
> appreciated (because...it's an addiction).
>
> My Roadini is most comfortable on Jack Browns but I missed a 300K because
> I didn't want to ride 12 hours in heavy rain without them. Now I have 28s
> and fenders, which is fine but not the same cushion on the longer rides
> (I'll survive). I have dynamo on my Cheviot and love it for commuting, but
> am hesitant to invest just for 4 rides a year when batteries work fine.
> Small Saddle-Sack.  I love my setup, I'm really just curious what other
> people are doing with their Rivendells on Brevets.
>
>
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[RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-19 Thread RonaTD
>How many people here are active randonneurs and ride their Rivendells?

My first brevets were on my Heron Road. Back then I carried everything in a 
Carradice saddle bag. For all the well-known reasons, I found that I preferred 
carrying things in a handlebar bag, and to this day I really like the Riv boxy 
bag and matching Nitto rack. The magnetic closure is a key feature. (But I 
prefer my Berthoud front bag for it's built-in map case.) I bought a 
Bleriot/Protovelo frame and had S couplers installed for a travel bike and to 
enjoy fatter 650B tires. I've done a fair amount of brevet and perm riding on 
that bike, and for a few years it was my commuting bike, as well. I also 
experimented with 650B on my Heron Road bikes, and that is where I discovered a 
handling issue, in which carrying weight in both a handlebar bag and a 
saddlebag at the same time created a noticeable shimmy issue. Eventually I 
decided to try a full-on, skinny tube, low trail rando bike, which I used for 
several years. I found I really liked the lower trail steering feel, especially 
when carrying a bunch of stuff in the handlebar bag. I particularly notice the 
handling difference on steep, curvy downhills (and of course steep, slow 
uphills). I had my Heron Road fork pulled to where the trail is now in the low 
50's, and really liked the change. 

I also found that each time I rode the Heron I thought, "this is my favorite 
bike." So, last year I had Waterford make me an ST-22 with a Heron fork raked 
out to get the trail into the low 40's. Using the Heron fork crown limits the 
fender width (it's 40mm between the tangs), so I decided to stick with 57mm 
reach brakes and 28mm tires with stainless steel fenders. The roads in 
Wisconsin are generally quite good and I haven't yet regretted going back to 
skinnier tires. Between the Compass EL casing and the flexy round fork blades, 
the bike really soaks up road imperfections nicely. The handling is right where 
I like it. The Schmidt dyno hub with the electrical connect built into the fork 
ends is a giant convenience, and having always available lights is important to 
me. 

Fenders vs tire volume depends on your riding conditions and your tolerance for 
bumps vs being wet. My experience with fenders hasn't been completely happy, as 
I find that I still get quite a bit of spray on my feet and in the drivetrain. 
And, one time on a commute a tire picked up a stick and the fender jammed it 
enough that it tore the tire. That said, I still prefer to ride with fenders if 
it's wet. But when I took my Bleriot/Travelo to Ireland recently I didn't 
bother packing fenders. (And lucked out - the weather was beautiful!) 

My 650b skinny tube bike is now my commuter, and I'm really happy with that. 
Dyno hub and lights are key, and fenders while not perfect are helpful. I carry 
a backpack in a Wald basket on the front and the very low trail geometry makes 
that work.

I've done 200km on my Rivendell Road, which has 26mm tires and nothing more 
than a small tool wrap under the saddle, and that was fast and fine, though it 
meant stuffing the jersey pockets and relying more on buying stuff along the 
way. There is a lot that changes when you get over 200km. Contact points - 
feet, seat, and hands - and fueling are the areas I've had the most adjustment. 
None of that is really "Rivendell specific".

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI
RUSA 7849

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[RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-19 Thread Lynne Fitz
I did (rando bike is now a custom Sweetpea 650b), longest ride was a flèche.  
Bleriot frame.

Tires varied from Nifty Swifties to Michelin Axial Raids (oh, I miss those!).  
Fenders still are Honjos.  Drop bars.  Front and rear racks, Acorn front bag, 
Carradice Barley rear bag.  Topeak Morph pump.  Son 28 front hub, most recent 
light is a Supernova (as lights got better, I upgraded).  The bike was also my 
commute bike; hence the rear rack, rather than the Bagman.

Bike is currently my well over-featured around town bike, with the addition of 
a Platrack and a Racktime camper rear rack.

Here’s a pic from when the luggage was NEW (both faded to the same color now): 
https://flic.kr/p/62eNHc

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[RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-18 Thread Clayton.sf
Done brevets on my Quickbeam in various configurations. basket, bags, fixed and 
SS. In my experience comfort is the most important thing since time limits are 
generous.  The catch is that comfortable varies quite a bit from 3 to 300 
miles. Full upright is nice for a few miles, but will be very uncomfortable for 
120 miles for me. Both battery and dybamo lights work.

Experimentation is key and what works for me will maybe not work for the next 
person. In the end you won't know what works for a 300k unless you do a 300k. 
Best advice is to just start and see how it goes. worst case scenario you will 
DNF, so what? You will learn something anyway.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

2018-06-18 Thread lambbo
How many people here are active randonneurs and ride their Rivendells? 
 What is your set-up? Are your priorities fenders or tire size? Do you run 
battery or dynamo?  What size bag do you carry if you have one? Does 
anything change from 200K to 600 or 1200K on your rig?  Pictures 
appreciated (because...it's an addiction). 

My Roadini is most comfortable on Jack Browns but I missed a 300K because I 
didn't want to ride 12 hours in heavy rain without them. Now I have 28s and 
fenders, which is fine but not the same cushion on the longer rides (I'll 
survive). I have dynamo on my Cheviot and love it for commuting, but am 
hesitant to invest just for 4 rides a year when batteries work fine. Small 
Saddle-Sack.  I love my setup, I'm really just curious what other people 
are doing with their Rivendells on Brevets. 


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