[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
I still haven't figured out how to simply reverse Flicker but I think I 
have decoded Apple.  From the intuitive to the obscure.  In OS X.9, when 
you set up an album to share it prompted for a public site.  In OS X.10.3 
this doesn't happen.  Instead you must return to Photos, open the album, 
identify an 8 point picture of a head on your screen and click on it to get 
the public option.  No help at all from Help.  I guess it just another 
thing Apple wanted to keep secret.  Anyway if you still can't get Flicker 
to work, try this icloud link:

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02GFssfGGIBYaP

Michael

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 For some reason beyond my understanding Flicker has switched all 5000+ of 
 my photos to private!  I have been unable to find a master switch to undue 
 this.  I thought I had made the album of 10 photos public, but apparently 
 only one photo got switched.  I've gone back and redone it.  I apologize 
 for all the confusion and inconvenience.  Here's the link again.

 Michael

 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the 
 bikes, but would like to see how you made it work. 

 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks 
 worked with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 
 1UpUSA rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or 
 a rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig 
 then folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris 
 rack that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Stephen D
Thanks so much for posting a report on this -- I've been looking for a more 
detailed review of how this rack works with fenders.  

I'm getting a 404 error when I click on your flickr link.  Can you post the 
link again?  

Thanks again, your post answered some of the questions I had after the 
recent discussion on 1UpUSA racks.

Best,
Stephen

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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
For some reason beyond my understanding Flicker has switched all 5000+ of 
my photos to private!  I have been unable to find a master switch to undue 
this.  I thought I had made the album of 10 photos public, but apparently 
only one photo got switched.  I've gone back and redone it.  I apologize 
for all the confusion and inconvenience.  Here's the link again.

Michael

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 12:35:01 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

 I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the bikes, 
 but would like to see how you made it work. 

 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
 with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
 rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or 
 a rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
 folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
 that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-23 Thread Edwin W
I, too, can only see the picture of the rack on the car without the bikes, 
but would like to see how you made it work. 

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:06:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
 with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
 rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or a 
 rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
 folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
 that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thank you David, I'm not sure how that got switched, but found the settings 
under Edit, which doesn't seem particularly intuitive to me at least.  I 
had looked for Settings under More.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

The original link should take people to the exact set.

Now if I could only figure out why Photos tells me pictures have been 
uploaded to iCloud but nothing has appeared since I installed 10.10.3

Michael

On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 10:30:29 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/ 

 Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private. 

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is 
 puzzling 
  because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy. 
  
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums 
  
  I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos 
 hasan't 
  worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety 
  
  Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a timely 
  fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond. 
  
  Michael 
  
  
  On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: 
  
  Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks 
 worked 
  with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 
 1UpUSA 
  rack and offer this initial review 
  
  Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C. 
  
  First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
  claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well 
 with my 
  large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here: 
  
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
  
  It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
  the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
  trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had 
 enough 
  frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I 
 got 
  it rock solid. 
  
  The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders 
 or a 
  rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear 
 supports 
  but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, 
 the 
  fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front 
 attachment 
  didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both 
 the 
  front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can 
 see 
  in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well 
 in 
  the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead 
 and 
  pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed 
 the 
  wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When 
 I 
  released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
  bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the 
 photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held 
 them 
  firmly to one side. 
  
  I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of 
 dirt 
  road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove 
  while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the amount 
 of 
  weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of the 
 roads 
  there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but absolutely none 
  between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch. 
  
  The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig 
 then 
  folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris 
 rack 
  that I have seen. 
  
  So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two 
 complex 
  bikes without any interference. 
  
  Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
  clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I 
 was 
  working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told 
 the 
  nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with 
 the 
  set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to 
 someone 
  who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would 
 call me 
  but no one ever has. 
  
  C for customer service. 
  
  Michael 
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-20 Thread cyclotourist
That's the one!

I like how compact it is, maybe because it's just a single, but it
looks like the mounting/hinge area is much cleaner than the similar
Thule.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you David, I'm not sure how that got switched, but found the settings
 under Edit, which doesn't seem particularly intuitive to me at least.  I had
 looked for Settings under More.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 The original link should take people to the exact set.

 Now if I could only figure out why Photos tells me pictures have been
 uploaded to iCloud but nothing has appeared since I installed 10.10.3

 Michael

 On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 10:30:29 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/

 Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private.

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is
  puzzling
  because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy.
 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums
 
  I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos
  hasan't
  worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety
 
  Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a timely
  fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond.
 
  Michael
 
 
  On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
 
  Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks
  worked
  with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the
  1UpUSA
  rack and offer this initial review
 
  Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.
 
  First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they
  claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well
  with my
  large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:
 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388
 
  It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing
  the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into
  trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had
  enough
  frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I
  got
  it rock solid.
 
  The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders
  or a
  rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear
  supports
  but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually,
  the
  fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front
  attachment
  didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both
  the
  front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can
  see
  in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well
  in
  the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead
  and
  pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed
  the
  wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When
  I
  released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately
  bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the
  photos.
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held
  them
  firmly to one side.
 
  I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of
  dirt
  road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat
  drove
  while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the amount
  of
  weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of the
  roads
  there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but absolutely none
  between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.
 
  The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig
  then
  folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris
  rack
  that I have seen.
 
  So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two
  complex
  bikes without any interference.
 
  Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking
  clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I
  was
  working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told
  the
  nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with
  the
  set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to
  someone
  who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would
  call me
  but no one ever has.
 
  C for customer service.
 
  Michael
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Hechmer
It can be a singe, double or triple.  Each carrier slides over two bolts so 
they are very quick to put on and off.  The two bike set up folds up under 
my rear door, but since we most often use it for one bike, we decided to 
leave one in the garage.  The base also folds in half so it is pretty 
simple to put it in a trunk.

Michael

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:25:45 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the one! 

 I like how compact it is, maybe because it's just a single, but it 
 looks like the mounting/hinge area is much cleaner than the similar 
 Thule. 

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  Thank you David, I'm not sure how that got switched, but found the 
 settings 
  under Edit, which doesn't seem particularly intuitive to me at least.  I 
 had 
  looked for Settings under More. 
  
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
  
  The original link should take people to the exact set. 
  
  Now if I could only figure out why Photos tells me pictures have been 
  uploaded to iCloud but nothing has appeared since I installed 10.10.3 
  
  Michael 
  
  On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 10:30:29 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  
  Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th: 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/ 
  
  Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private. 
  
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
  wrote: 
   I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is 
   puzzling 
   because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy. 
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums 
   
   I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos 
   hasan't 
   worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety 
   
   Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a 
 timely 
   fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond. 
   
   Michael 
   
   
   On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer 
 wrote: 
   
   Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks 
   worked 
   with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 
   1UpUSA 
   rack and offer this initial review 
   
   Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C. 
   
   First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
   claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well 
   with my 
   large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here: 
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
   
   It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or 
 removing 
   the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran 
 into 
   trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had 
   enough 
   frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting 
 however I 
   got 
   it rock solid. 
   
   The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without 
 fenders 
   or a 
   rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear 
   supports 
   but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, 
   the 
   fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front 
   attachment 
   didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered 
 both 
   the 
   front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you 
 can 
   see 
   in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked 
 well 
   in 
   the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead 
   and 
   pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed 
   the 
   wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders. 
  When 
   I 
   released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays 
 immediately 
   bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the 
   photos. 
   I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which 
 held 
   them 
   firmly to one side. 
   
   I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of 
   dirt 
   road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway. 
  Pat 
   drove 
   while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount 
   of 
   weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of the 
   roads 
   there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but absolutely 
 none 
   between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch. 
   
   The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig 
   then 
   folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris 
   rack 
   that I have seen. 
   
   So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two 
   complex 
   bikes without any interference. 
   
   Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
   

Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-20 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
Michael,
Looks like a nice unit. Next time you get it loaded with two bikes would 
you please take a picture and share??
Thanks,
Jon

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 3:55:45 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 It can be a singe, double or triple.  Each carrier slides over two bolts 
 so they are very quick to put on and off.  The two bike set up folds up 
 under my rear door, but since we most often use it for one bike, we decided 
 to leave one in the garage.  The base also folds in half so it is pretty 
 simple to put it in a trunk.

 Michael

 On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:25:45 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the one! 

 I like how compact it is, maybe because it's just a single, but it 
 looks like the mounting/hinge area is much cleaner than the similar 
 Thule. 

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  Thank you David, I'm not sure how that got switched, but found the 
 settings 
  under Edit, which doesn't seem particularly intuitive to me at least. 
  I had 
  looked for Settings under More. 
  
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
  
  The original link should take people to the exact set. 
  
  Now if I could only figure out why Photos tells me pictures have been 
  uploaded to iCloud but nothing has appeared since I installed 10.10.3 
  
  Michael 
  
  On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 10:30:29 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  
  Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th: 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/ 
  
  Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private. 
  
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
  wrote: 
   I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is 
   puzzling 
   because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy. 
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums 
   
   I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos 
   hasan't 
   worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety 
   
   Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a 
 timely 
   fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond. 
   
   Michael 
   
   
   On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer 
 wrote: 
   
   Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks 
   worked 
   with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 
   1UpUSA 
   rack and offer this initial review 
   
   Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C. 
   
   First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as 
 they 
   claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works 
 well 
   with my 
   large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here: 
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
   
   It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or 
 removing 
   the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran 
 into 
   trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and 
 had 
   enough 
   frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting 
 however I 
   got 
   it rock solid. 
   
   The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without 
 fenders 
   or a 
   rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear 
   supports 
   but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed 
 actually, 
   the 
   fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front 
   attachment 
   didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered 
 both 
   the 
   front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you 
 can 
   see 
   in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked 
 well 
   in 
   the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went 
 ahead 
   and 
   pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but 
 allowed 
   the 
   wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders. 
  When 
   I 
   released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays 
 immediately 
   bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the 
   photos. 
   I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which 
 held 
   them 
   firmly to one side. 
   
   I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of 
   dirt 
   road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway. 
  Pat 
   drove 
   while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount 
   of 
   weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the 
   roads 
   there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but absolutely 
 none 
   between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch. 
   
   The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole 
 rig 
   then 
   folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or 
 Saris 
   rack 
   

Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Hechmer
Jon, I hope you can see the bikes loaded here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:02:50 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman in the foothills 
of Colorado wrote:

 Michael,
 Looks like a nice unit. Next time you get it loaded with two bikes would 
 you please take a picture and share??
 Thanks,
 Jon

 On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 3:55:45 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 It can be a singe, double or triple.  Each carrier slides over two bolts 
 so they are very quick to put on and off.  The two bike set up folds up 
 under my rear door, but since we most often use it for one bike, we decided 
 to leave one in the garage.  The base also folds in half so it is pretty 
 simple to put it in a trunk.

 Michael

 On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:25:45 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the one! 

 I like how compact it is, maybe because it's just a single, but it 
 looks like the mounting/hinge area is much cleaner than the similar 
 Thule. 

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  Thank you David, I'm not sure how that got switched, but found the 
 settings 
  under Edit, which doesn't seem particularly intuitive to me at least. 
  I had 
  looked for Settings under More. 
  
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
  
  The original link should take people to the exact set. 
  
  Now if I could only figure out why Photos tells me pictures have been 
  uploaded to iCloud but nothing has appeared since I installed 10.10.3 
  
  Michael 
  
  On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 10:30:29 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  
  Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th: 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/ 
  
  Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private. 
  
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com 
  wrote: 
   I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is 
   puzzling 
   because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy. 
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums 
   
   I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos 
   hasan't 
   worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety 
   
   Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a 
 timely 
   fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond. 
   
   Michael 
   
   
   On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer 
 wrote: 
   
   Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks 
   worked 
   with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought 
 the 
   1UpUSA 
   rack and offer this initial review 
   
   Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C. 
   
   First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as 
 they 
   claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works 
 well 
   with my 
   large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here: 
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388 
   
   It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or 
 removing 
   the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran 
 into 
   trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and 
 had 
   enough 
   frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting 
 however I 
   got 
   it rock solid. 
   
   The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without 
 fenders 
   or a 
   rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear 
   supports 
   but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed 
 actually, 
   the 
   fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front 
   attachment 
   didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered 
 both 
   the 
   front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner. 
  (you can 
   see 
   in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked 
 well 
   in 
   the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went 
 ahead 
   and 
   pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but 
 allowed 
   the 
   wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders. 
  When 
   I 
   released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays 
 immediately 
   bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of 
 the 
   photos. 
   I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which 
 held 
   them 
   firmly to one side. 
   
   I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles 
 of 
   dirt 
   road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway. 
  Pat 
   drove 
   while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount 
   of 
   weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the 
   roads 
   there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but absolutely 
 none 
   between the 

Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-20 Thread Jon Dukeman
Michael,
All I could see was the rack folded up..no bikes.
no problem..I was just curious.Looks like a nice rack.
Jon

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jon, I hope you can see the bikes loaded here:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:02:50 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman in the foothills
 of Colorado wrote:

 Michael,
 Looks like a nice unit. Next time you get it loaded with two bikes would
 you please take a picture and share??
 Thanks,
 Jon

 On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 3:55:45 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 It can be a singe, double or triple.  Each carrier slides over two bolts
 so they are very quick to put on and off.  The two bike set up folds up
 under my rear door, but since we most often use it for one bike, we decided
 to leave one in the garage.  The base also folds in half so it is pretty
 simple to put it in a trunk.

 Michael

 On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:25:45 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That's the one!

 I like how compact it is, maybe because it's just a single, but it
 looks like the mounting/hinge area is much cleaner than the similar
 Thule.

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thank you David, I'm not sure how that got switched, but found the
 settings
  under Edit, which doesn't seem particularly intuitive to me at
 least.  I had
  looked for Settings under More.
 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388
 
  The original link should take people to the exact set.
 
  Now if I could only figure out why Photos tells me pictures have been
  uploaded to iCloud but nothing has appeared since I installed 10.10.3
 
  Michael
 
  On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 10:30:29 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th:
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/
 
  Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private.
 
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com

  wrote:
   I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is
   puzzling
   because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy.
  
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums
  
   I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud
 photos
   hasan't
   worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety
  
   Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a
 timely
   fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond.
  
   Michael
  
  
   On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer
 wrote:
  
   Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike
 racks
   worked
   with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought
 the
   1UpUSA
   rack and offer this initial review
  
   Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.
  
   First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as
 they
   claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works
 well
   with my
   large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:
  
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388
  
   It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or
 removing
   the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially
 ran into
   trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and
 had
   enough
   frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting
 however I
   got
   it rock solid.
  
   The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without
 fenders
   or a
   rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear
   supports
   but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed
 actually,
   the
   fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front
   attachment
   didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I
 lowered both
   the
   front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.
  (you can
   see
   in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This
 worked well
   in
   the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went
 ahead
   and
   pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but
 allowed
   the
   wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel
 holders.  When
   I
   released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays
 immediately
   bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of
 the
   photos.
   I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which
 held
   them
   firmly to one side.
  
   I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles
 of
   dirt
   road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth
 highway.  Pat
   drove
   while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the
 amount
   of
   weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of
 the
   roads
   there was plenty of 

[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Glad you found a rack that works for you! I'd grade that a customer service 
F. Failure to respond.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 5:06:12 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:


 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.


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Re: [RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-19 Thread cyclotourist
Still can't see it. Your photos end with this one on June 10th:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/18750929011/in/datetaken/

Guessing you have your uploads defaulted to private.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is puzzling
 because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums

 I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos hasan't
 worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety

 Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a timely
 fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond.

 Michael


 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked
 with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA
 rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with my
 large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or a
 rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos.
 I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat drove
 while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the amount of
 weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of the roads
 there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but absolutely none
 between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then
 folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack
 that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael


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[RBW] Re: 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
I've gotten two messages telling me the link didn't work, which is puzzling 
because it works for me.  Here's another paste and copy.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/albums

I seem to be having problems with Flicker lately, and iCloud photos hasan't 
worked since I upgraded  to Yosemety

Deacon, I didn't give them an F because they sent the rack in a timely 
fashion.  Otherwise, your right - F for failure to respond.

Michael

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 7:06:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
 with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
 rack and offer this initial review

 Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

 First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they 
 claim.  Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with 
 my large Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

 It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing 
 the second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into 
 trouble getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
 frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
 it rock solid.

 The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or a 
 rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
 but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
 fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
 didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
 front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
 in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
 the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
 pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
 wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
 released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
 bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
  I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
 firmly to one side.

 I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
 road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
 drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
 amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
 the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
 absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

 The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
 folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
 that I have seen.

 So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
 bikes without any interference.

 Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
 clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
 working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
 nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
 set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
 who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
 but no one ever has.

 C for customer service.

 Michael




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