[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
As you allude to, frame size (aka your size) comes into play here. My PBH 
is 90 and I ride a 62 cm Hunqapillar on all kids of surfaces, to include 
rugged single track, bike packing. And that's with Schwalbe Dureme touring 
tires. I'll be trying out Smart Sams after St. Nick visits. Grin. I love 
the larger size wheel (vs 26", my only previous experience) as I can roll 
over most things much more easily. Maneuverability has not been an issue 
for me. I do not experience the 700 wheels as "settling" at all.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 7:45:58 AM UTC-7, MobileBill wrote:
>
> As many have noted on recent posts, 650B appears to be the wheel of choice 
> now for mountain biking. 
> So it feels odd to me that the companies that first demonstrated the 
> usefulness of 650B for mountain biking (Riv and Raw) don't now have a dog 
> in the hunt. Well, OK, the bomb is available as a custom, but I'd feel 
> guilty. And Raw continues to produce 650B, but with lightweight frames that 
> may not be suitable for some of the rougher tougher stuff we'd expect of a 
> Hunq or a Bombadil. 
> (My bikes are working bikes: I actually use my bikes to commute and to do 
> field work in wildlands, but the Saluki and Betty were obviously not 
> designed for the latter. I imagine it would be nice to have a bike designed 
> to  carry a significant load and handle deep sand and rocky roads and 
> moderately difficult downhills and long distance travel on pavement. Sort 
> of like a Hunq or a Bomb.)
> Maybe I should get a Hunq, but for my size, the 650B wheels just seem so 
> much more sensible and fitting and maneuverable, and it's what I'm used to 
> (on my Saluki and Betty), and the tires are now available in spades. 
> Your thoughts (or insider knowledge) on whether I should settle for 700 
> Hunq, or hold out for Riv or Raw to return to their roots, or look 
> elsewhere for a (used?) 650B heavy duty bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
If you want to try out a M/L Rawland rSogn or a 56cm Bombadil, and are in 
the Bay Area, you can look me up.  I'm in El Cerrito.

Used rSogn's are not that uncommon.  Visit the Rawland Google group 
periodically and you'll get a chance eventually.  Bombas are a lot less 
common out there.  If it were me and I wanted a 650B monster cross or a 
650B adventure touring bike, I'd probably talk with the Soulcraft folks and 
see what they could come up with for me.  

If a Christmas elf came and replaced my rSogn with a 54cm Hunqapillar and 
my Bombadil with a 58cm Atlantis, I would do just fine.  

Bill Lindsay



On Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:45:58 AM UTC-8, MobileBill wrote:
>
> As many have noted on recent posts, 650B appears to be the wheel of choice 
> now for mountain biking. 
> So it feels odd to me that the companies that first demonstrated the 
> usefulness of 650B for mountain biking (Riv and Raw) don't now have a dog 
> in the hunt. Well, OK, the bomb is available as a custom, but I'd feel 
> guilty. And Raw continues to produce 650B, but with lightweight frames that 
> may not be suitable for some of the rougher tougher stuff we'd expect of a 
> Hunq or a Bombadil. 
> (My bikes are working bikes: I actually use my bikes to commute and to do 
> field work in wildlands, but the Saluki and Betty were obviously not 
> designed for the latter. I imagine it would be nice to have a bike designed 
> to  carry a significant load and handle deep sand and rocky roads and 
> moderately difficult downhills and long distance travel on pavement. Sort 
> of like a Hunq or a Bomb.)
> Maybe I should get a Hunq, but for my size, the 650B wheels just seem so 
> much more sensible and fitting and maneuverable, and it's what I'm used to 
> (on my Saluki and Betty), and the tires are now available in spades. 
> Your thoughts (or insider knowledge) on whether I should settle for 700 
> Hunq, or hold out for Riv or Raw to return to their roots, or look 
> elsewhere for a (used?) 650B heavy duty bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread C.J. Filip
S, you're making 60-62cm Saluki owners hold on tighter to their now 
unobtainable non-custom bikes!

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:45:58 AM UTC-8, MobileBill wrote:
>
> As many have noted on recent posts, 650B appears to be the wheel of choice 
> now for mountain biking. 
> So it feels odd to me that the companies that first demonstrated the 
> usefulness of 650B for mountain biking (Riv and Raw) don't now have a dog 
> in the hunt. Well, OK, the bomb is available as a custom, but I'd feel 
> guilty. And Raw continues to produce 650B, but with lightweight frames that 
> may not be suitable for some of the rougher tougher stuff we'd expect of a 
> Hunq or a Bombadil. 
> (My bikes are working bikes: I actually use my bikes to commute and to do 
> field work in wildlands, but the Saluki and Betty were obviously not 
> designed for the latter. I imagine it would be nice to have a bike designed 
> to  carry a significant load and handle deep sand and rocky roads and 
> moderately difficult downhills and long distance travel on pavement. Sort 
> of like a Hunq or a Bomb.)
> Maybe I should get a Hunq, but for my size, the 650B wheels just seem so 
> much more sensible and fitting and maneuverable, and it's what I'm used to 
> (on my Saluki and Betty), and the tires are now available in spades. 
> Your thoughts (or insider knowledge) on whether I should settle for 700 
> Hunq, or hold out for Riv or Raw to return to their roots, or look 
> elsewhere for a (used?) 650B heavy duty bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread Chris Lampe 2
Just because I like playing around with BikeCad and I'm a fan of the 
Hunqapillar, here's a rendering of a 54cm Hunq with 650B x 50mm tires.  

http://www.bikecad.ca/applet?model=1384391824727

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:45:58 AM UTC-6, MobileBill wrote:

> As many have noted on recent posts, 650B appears to be the wheel of choice 
> now for mountain biking. 
> So it feels odd to me that the companies that first demonstrated the 
> usefulness of 650B for mountain biking (Riv and Raw) don't now have a dog 
> in the hunt. Well, OK, the bomb is available as a custom, but I'd feel 
> guilty. And Raw continues to produce 650B, but with lightweight frames that 
> may not be suitable for some of the rougher tougher stuff we'd expect of a 
> Hunq or a Bombadil. 
> (My bikes are working bikes: I actually use my bikes to commute and to do 
> field work in wildlands, but the Saluki and Betty were obviously not 
> designed for the latter. I imagine it would be nice to have a bike designed 
> to  carry a significant load and handle deep sand and rocky roads and 
> moderately difficult downhills and long distance travel on pavement. Sort 
> of like a Hunq or a Bomb.)
> Maybe I should get a Hunq, but for my size, the 650B wheels just seem so 
> much more sensible and fitting and maneuverable, and it's what I'm used to 
> (on my Saluki and Betty), and the tires are now available in spades. 
> Your thoughts (or insider knowledge) on whether I should settle for 700 
> Hunq, or hold out for Riv or Raw to return to their roots, or look 
> elsewhere for a (used?) 650B heavy duty bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread Chris Lampe 2
Well, the Bikecad link goes to a different bike so I'll try a different 
route:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85055386@N03/11488089173/

I actually think on the 54cm Hunq the 650B looks more proportional than the 
700c.   



On Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:44:18 AM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

> Just because I like playing around with BikeCad and I'm a fan of the 
> Hunqapillar, here's a rendering of a 54cm Hunq with 650B x 50mm tires.  
>
> http://www.bikecad.ca/applet?model=1384391824727
>
> On Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:45:58 AM UTC-6, MobileBill wrote:
>
>> As many have noted on recent posts, 650B appears to be the wheel of 
>> choice now for mountain biking. 
>> So it feels odd to me that the companies that first demonstrated the 
>> usefulness of 650B for mountain biking (Riv and Raw) don't now have a dog 
>> in the hunt. Well, OK, the bomb is available as a custom, but I'd feel 
>> guilty. And Raw continues to produce 650B, but with lightweight frames that 
>> may not be suitable for some of the rougher tougher stuff we'd expect of a 
>> Hunq or a Bombadil. 
>> (My bikes are working bikes: I actually use my bikes to commute and to do 
>> field work in wildlands, but the Saluki and Betty were obviously not 
>> designed for the latter. I imagine it would be nice to have a bike designed 
>> to  carry a significant load and handle deep sand and rocky roads and 
>> moderately difficult downhills and long distance travel on pavement. Sort 
>> of like a Hunq or a Bomb.)
>> Maybe I should get a Hunq, but for my size, the 650B wheels just seem so 
>> much more sensible and fitting and maneuverable, and it's what I'm used to 
>> (on my Saluki and Betty), and the tires are now available in spades. 
>> Your thoughts (or insider knowledge) on whether I should settle for 700 
>> Hunq, or hold out for Riv or Raw to return to their roots, or look 
>> elsewhere for a (used?) 650B heavy duty bike.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread Leslie
I've thought the same thing:  Riv doesn't have enough 650b bikes anymore...

I wouldn't be opposed to ordering a Hunq, but asking for the canti-studs to be 
lowered for 650b...

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
There would be a lot more to it than just "lowering the canti-studs".  

For those looking for a 650B bike that's bigger than 58cm, there's a 59 
Bleriot on SF Craigslist.  

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 5:45:43 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
>
> I've thought the same thing:  Riv doesn't have enough 650b bikes anymore...
>
> I wouldn't be opposed to ordering a Hunq, but asking for the canti-studs 
> to be lowered for 650b...
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
+1 more... Between my 650b trek and 700c Atlantis I prefer the smaller wheels, 
and the hetre's :)

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-23 Thread Leslie
On Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:58:34 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> There would be a lot more to it than just "lowering the canti-studs".  
>


If you were wanting to, say, take a 26" Atlantis to 650b (other than using 
Motolites for Hetres as has been done), then yeah, you might have some 
clearance issues.  
Same thing with a lot of the other bikes;  doing my Ram, I was very 
conscientious of keeping the 650b tall enough for not affecting BB-height, 
etc. (again, going to Hetres).

For a 29'er Hunq, it'd have great clearance for your big 650b's.  You 
wouldn't want to run smaller 650b's, because of BB height, etc..  
But if you wanted a lugged-steel 650b rigid mountain-bike,  wouldn't a Hunq 
be a great foundation?

If you're not going to run anything smaller than Quasi's, what else besides 
lowering the canti-posts would be needed? 
You'd have clearance, the brake hangers are the same... just as long as 
you're not riding 'too small' of a tire (ie, don't run anything smaller 
than a Hetre), what else wouldn't work? 

Changing bikes: if you wanted to lower the posts on a 700c Atlantis to get 
Hetres on there, it'd probably work, but I'd be really cautious about it, 
to make sure that you were running Hetres or larger, or else more would 
have to probably change. You would have to pay attention to clearances, 
too, might not go to huge 2.4 Megamotos (if they'd ever happened), but a 
Quasi should work there, too.  

Of course, a 650b Bomba, is already all that.  But, since the Bomba has 
gone custom-price, there's merit in considering one of the other frames 
with relocated canti-posts.



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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
Don't get me wrong, I think a 650B monster cross would be a great bike.  I 
own a 650B monstercross and I really like it.  

My point is that a 700c Hunqapillar is already a 29er.  It is made to clear 
700x55 tires.  The BB drop is correct for 700x55.  Estimating that as a 
366mm radius tire, if you move to Quasi Motos, then you are dropping the bb 
by the better part of an inch.  650B conversions are cool because you go 
from 700 x too skinny to 650b x a lot chubbier.  Let's say it is 3/4".  
That much extra under the fork crown would look ridiculous on a $2000 
frame, so build a new fork, or spec a Bombadil 650B fork.  But now you have 
to redo the head tube, which means the down tube lug changes.  Same extra 
3/4" at the bridges, so now the chainstays and seatstays need to change 
also if you want it to look like a bike where the designer knew what he was 
doing.  Those might be vanity details to you, but Grant takes those details 
very seriously.  He just wouldn't do it.  The only two tubes on the bike he 
could avoid changing would be the seat tube and top tube.  

On Monday, December 23, 2013 8:00:34 AM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
>
> On Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:58:34 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> There would be a lot more to it than just "lowering the canti-studs".  
>>
>
>
> If you were wanting to, say, take a 26" Atlantis to 650b (other than using 
> Motolites for Hetres as has been done), then yeah, you might have some 
> clearance issues.  
> Same thing with a lot of the other bikes;  doing my Ram, I was very 
> conscientious of keeping the 650b tall enough for not affecting BB-height, 
> etc. (again, going to Hetres).
>
> For a 29'er Hunq, it'd have great clearance for your big 650b's.  You 
> wouldn't want to run smaller 650b's, because of BB height, etc..  
> But if you wanted a lugged-steel 650b rigid mountain-bike,  wouldn't a 
> Hunq be a great foundation?
>
> If you're not going to run anything smaller than Quasi's, what else 
> besides lowering the canti-posts would be needed? 
> You'd have clearance, the brake hangers are the same... just as long as 
> you're not riding 'too small' of a tire (ie, don't run anything smaller 
> than a Hetre), what else wouldn't work? 
>
> Changing bikes: if you wanted to lower the posts on a 700c Atlantis to get 
> Hetres on there, it'd probably work, but I'd be really cautious about it, 
> to make sure that you were running Hetres or larger, or else more would 
> have to probably change. You would have to pay attention to clearances, 
> too, might not go to huge 2.4 Megamotos (if they'd ever happened), but a 
> Quasi should work there, too.  
>
> Of course, a 650b Bomba, is already all that.  But, since the Bomba has 
> gone custom-price, there's merit in considering one of the other frames 
> with relocated canti-posts.
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-23 Thread Leslie
On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:19:50 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think a 650B monster cross would be a great bike.  I 
> own a 650B monstercross and I really like it.  
>
> My point is that a 700c Hunqapillar is already a 29er.  It is made to 
> clear 700x55 tires.  The BB drop is correct for 700x55.  Estimating that as 
> a 366mm radius tire, if you move to Quasi Motos, then you are dropping the 
> bb by the better part of an inch.  650B conversions are cool because you go 
> from 700 x too skinny to 650b x a lot chubbier.  Let's say it is 3/4".  
> That much extra under the fork crown would look ridiculous on a $2000 
> frame, so build a new fork, or spec a Bombadil 650B fork.  But now you have 
> to redo the head tube, which means the down tube lug changes.  Same extra 
> 3/4" at the bridges, so now the chainstays and seatstays need to change 
> also if you want it to look like a bike where the designer knew what he was 
> doing.  Those might be vanity details to you, but Grant takes those details 
> very seriously.  He just wouldn't do it.  The only two tubes on the bike he 
> could avoid changing would be the seat tube and top tube.  
>

Good point.

I agree on one hand;  RBW is a success because Grant does take those 
details seriously, they won't change something if it's not an acceptable 
change.  And you nailed it on the 650b conversions;  same reason I have 
650b Hetres on my 60cm Ram that was a 700c bike;  chubbier tire than the 
Ram can run on 700c, it can do if on 650b.  

On the other hand:  the bikes have a max tire size, but often run smaller;  
they Hunq description says to not run anything smaller than a 40 on it.  I 
think the Clement X'plor MSO 700x40 would be a great tire on it for the 
small end.  I don't think it would look 'too small' on it, either.   
Compare that tire against a bigger 650b, like the NeoMoto 2.3, and there's 
not as much of a difference in gap.  

Again, let me agree with you:  sure, get a newer Bomba that was intended 
for 650b right off the bat, that would be ideal. I did.  But, that was at 
the old price; now, it's $1500 more than the Hunq frame.  If you're wanting 
to stick to something closer to $2k, you have to go look somewhere else.  
RBW is one of the background reasons why Kirk was able to get the 650b to 
come into MTB bikes;  it makes sense to me that RBW needs a 650b mountain 
bike, aside from the custom Bombadil.  What they need is a 650b mountain 
bike back in the non-custom range.  What I think would be cool, is to do 
the Hunq the way the Saluki/Hilsen merger occurred:  now the AHH has a 650b 
range, and a 700c range.  Why not have a 650 Hunq range?  They're built 
on-demand as ordered, instead of a lot sitting in stock...  

I do see your point, and it would definitely need considering.  But I think 
it'd be good to see what a 54 Hunq looked like w/ a set of Nobby Nics or 
Hans Dampfs or Trail Kings thrown on some rims...  wish I was near there, 
could go by w/ a wheelset and have a look in person...


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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
let me agree back that an affordable rivendell 650b mountain bike would be 
kickass

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-23 Thread MobileBill
Yep.Just wanted to make sure. Maybe since it's just not me, there'll be 
more thought given to it. Keven and Grant have both discouraged talk about 
650B conversions with the Hunq, for all the reasons Bill Lindsay laid out, 
and then some. Take a look at the 52, 54 or 56 Bomb compared to similar 
models of the Hunq, *and particularly in that size range*, I see some 
measurable advantages for fit, clearance and ride, not to mention 
appearance. The 650B just seems like a tighter, more trail ready bike in 
that size.

On Monday, December 23, 2013 10:45:37 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> let me agree back that an affordable rivendell 650b mountain bike would be 
> kickass

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[RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-24 Thread Pondero
A 650b Hunq would be a HUGE temptation for me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread cyclotourist
Those old things?

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, C.J. Filip  wrote:

> S, you're making 60-62cm Saluki owners hold on tighter to their now
> unobtainable non-custom bikes!
>
>
> On Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:45:58 AM UTC-8, MobileBill wrote:
>
>> As many have noted on recent posts, 650B appears to be the wheel of
>> choice now for mountain biking.
>> So it feels odd to me that the companies that first demonstrated the
>> usefulness of 650B for mountain biking (Riv and Raw) don't now have a dog
>> in the hunt. Well, OK, the bomb is available as a custom, but I'd feel
>> guilty. And Raw continues to produce 650B, but with lightweight frames that
>> may not be suitable for some of the rougher tougher stuff we'd expect of a
>> Hunq or a Bombadil.
>> (My bikes are working bikes: I actually use my bikes to commute and to do
>> field work in wildlands, but the Saluki and Betty were obviously not
>> designed for the latter. I imagine it would be nice to have a bike designed
>> to  carry a significant load and handle deep sand and rocky roads and
>> moderately difficult downhills and long distance travel on pavement. Sort
>> of like a Hunq or a Bomb.)
>> Maybe I should get a Hunq, but for my size, the 650B wheels just seem so
>> much more sensible and fitting and maneuverable, and it's what I'm used to
>> (on my Saluki and Betty), and the tires are now available in spades.
>> Your thoughts (or insider knowledge) on whether I should settle for 700
>> Hunq, or hold out for Riv or Raw to return to their roots, or look
>> elsewhere for a (used?) 650B heavy duty bike.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A hunq of a 650B?

2013-12-21 Thread Peter Morgano
+1
On Dec 21, 2013 8:45 PM, "Leslie"  wrote:

> I've thought the same thing:  Riv doesn't have enough 650b bikes anymore...
>
> I wouldn't be opposed to ordering a Hunq, but asking for the canti-studs
> to be lowered for 650b...
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