Re: [RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 20:19 -0700, Lesli wrote: Here's mine. Recent Fall '10 delivery. Stealth decals. Someone on our 600k last week asked me if it was a Raleigh. The only Raleighs that bike looks even remotely like are the Raleigh Restorations JP Weigle's been doing, like this his latest: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/5722556927/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Very nice. I'll bet you waited a long time for it, which adds to the sweetness for sure. I was intrigued by the shifter cable routing and look forward to reading how that works out, in terms of both shifting performance and comfort. It certainly looks a lot neater tha my usual routing just under the front rack. I hope Seattle isn't getting as much rain as VT this Spring or you will be wishing for fenders. (assuming anyway that you are somewhere Seattle) Michael On May 14, 8:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
I was checking the weather for the PNW last night and it looked to be pouring in WA. It's a rainy morning here in Portland. I have a friend who did a 400k yesterday in WA, not a pleasant day for a long bike ride at all... I noticed the Vanilla doesn't have any attachment points for fenders. I guess it's a dedicated sunny day bike. --mike On May 15, 5:06 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice. I'll bet you waited a long time for it, which adds to the sweetness for sure. I was intrigued by the shifter cable routing and look forward to reading how that works out, in terms of both shifting performance and comfort. It certainly looks a lot neater tha my usual routing just under the front rack. I hope Seattle isn't getting as much rain as VT this Spring or you will be wishing for fenders. (assuming anyway that you are somewhere Seattle) Michael On May 14, 8:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
That's truly, a beautiful bicycle. On another note, were are you finding TA Zephyr cranks? I have three sets, on my Roadeo, my Tournesol, and on my Steve Rex. Don On May 14, 5:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Here's mine. Recent Fall '10 delivery. Stealth decals. Someone on our 600k last week asked me if it was a Raleigh. http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/72157625041700254/with/5633266187/ Based on my Riv custom but modified for 700c tires, front rack portage and built w/lighter weight tubing. Lesli Larson Eugene, OR On May 14, 5:40 pm, dpco dpco...@gmail.com wrote: That's truly, a beautiful bicycle. On another note, were are you finding TA Zephyr cranks? I have three sets, on my Roadeo, my Tournesol, and on my Steve Rex. Don On May 14, 5:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Another nice one; dare I say these are as nice looking as Rivs? At any rate, I like the understated lugs. (Not badmouthing Rivs by any means; I've owned 3 customs and a Sam Hill and wish I could afford a Roadeo. After my trike.) Where did you get that chain slap protector? It's much nicer than the blue rubber one on my Herse -- must get one like it. Source, please? And what front rack is that? And how does it attach? -- Apparently not to the centerpull attachment bolts. Custom for the bike? No more questions for now! Thanks. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Here's mine. Recent Fall '10 delivery. Stealth decals. Someone on our 600k last week asked me if it was a Raleigh. http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/72157625041700254/with/5633266187/ Based on my Riv custom but modified for 700c tires, front rack portage and built w/lighter weight tubing. Lesli Larson Eugene, OR On May 14, 5:40 pm, dpco dpco...@gmail.com wrote: That's truly, a beautiful bicycle. On another note, were are you finding TA Zephyr cranks? I have three sets, on my Roadeo, my Tournesol, and on my Steve Rex. Don On May 14, 5:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
P.s., on the blue Vanilla, the chainslap leather strap is custom from Vanilla piece. You can see the Vanilla logo here, if you squint: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/5720586304/in/set-72157626721226882 Where did you get that chain slap protector? It's much nicer than the blue rubber one on my Herse -- must get one like it. Source, please? quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Hmmm, trying to answer some of these questions. I'm not good at describing bikes and how they ride - - whatever one I'm riding is the one I love - - but I'll try: For starters, I tell the builder what I want to feel on a bike, and let him make all the decisions about size, dimensions, angles; tube materials. They are professionals, and that way I get their impression of perfection on a ride. Thus, each bike is different. I asked Sacha to make a comfy fat tire flier for long long days in the saddle, and this is what he came up with. I suggested a light blue, classic color - - like an old 1973 Raleigh Pro I lusted after - - and he did a great job on the color. 1. Compared to Roadeo, the Vanilla seems to take the steep, twisty downhills just a shade better. I asked Sacha to bias the bike towards comfort. I didn't specify anything about the geometry - - my philosophy is that the builder is a professional, knows more than I do, so just let them do their job. I did not tell him what trail to use, what angles, toe clip overlap or any other detail. Anyway, I can't say enough good things about the Roadeo, but the Vanilla seems exceptionally smooth in challenging descents on crappy pavement. 2. Also, the set-up is a bit racier than the Roadeo. The handlebars are about 2 cm lower than the seat on the Vanilla, as opposed to level on the Roadeo. That's the way Sacha wanted to build it, we talked about it a lot, and I'm enjoying trying out this (very slightly) more agressive posture. I'll report back after Wednesday's ride - planned to be 80 mi + 8k in ascent. I'll have a LOT to say after that one, I expect. 3. Yep, no fenders. I have several other bikes with eyelets, some with fenders. We got close to 40 of rain this winter, I'm the oddball on the list that doesn't mind riding sans fenders. Sacha and I talked about that, too - - I asked him what he wanted to build, and he wanted to build the dropouts without eyelets. They are really, really stunning, so I'm fine with his choices. 4. Yes, I love TA Zephyr cranks; and yes, I plead guilty to hoarding. Gosh... such an ugly word, hoarding. I knew I would have this bike built one day, so when Peter White still had a couple left, I bought one. I will do some sort of penance. This year's Death Ride should be an appropriate hairshirt for me. 5. Tires: I'm a clyde, and ride on a lot of abandoned back roads, with terrible pavement. Ergo, I'm deeply in love with 32mm road tires - Kojaks and Jack Browns. These JB's feel really, really comfy and nice on the descents. I'm running them at 75 front, 82 rear, and they seem just fine. 6. Components: that stem is a custom threadless, by Sacha. The M- Racers are incredible - - on a scale of 1-10, they are about an 18. White Hubs; very pleasing to the eye. And, great Vanilla schwaggage, I couldn't resist when I was in the showroom. Here are pics of two tasty steel bits - - at least one of which I doubt will be made again - - handy in a scap, you know: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626606134421/ cheers, Reynolds Lugs the 531st -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Thanks; apparently so many nice things at Vanilla. That stem is beautiful -- makes me want to get a threadless fork just so I can get one of those stems. Who says threadless has to be ugly? I'm going to try to make a leather strap for my Herse. I suppose you make it a bit short, then wet it to stretch when you install? Any ideas or instructions (group)? On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:39 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: P.s., on the blue Vanilla, the chainslap leather strap is custom from Vanilla piece. You can see the Vanilla logo here, if you squint: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/5720586304/in/set-72157626721226882 Where did you get that chain slap protector? It's much nicer than the blue rubber one on my Herse -- must get one like it. Source, please? quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Patrick-- Here's another set from the Vanilla Workshop flickr stream. Better snaps of the chainslap guard (a custom jobber by Sacha). http://www.flickr.com/photos/42587323@N08/sets/72157625660029858/ Front rack and decaleur were custom designed by Sacha to work with my Acorn boxy rando bag. Rack attaches mid-point on front fork and at the fork crown. It does a great job of stabilizing front loads and keeping my cue sheet legible on bumpy roads! Best, LL On May 15, 8:35 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Another nice one; dare I say these are as nice looking as Rivs? At any rate, I like the understated lugs. (Not badmouthing Rivs by any means; I've owned 3 customs and a Sam Hill and wish I could afford a Roadeo. After my trike.) Where did you get that chain slap protector? It's much nicer than the blue rubber one on my Herse -- must get one like it. Source, please? And what front rack is that? And how does it attach? -- Apparently not to the centerpull attachment bolts. Custom for the bike? No more questions for now! Thanks. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Here's mine. Recent Fall '10 delivery. Stealth decals. Someone on our 600k last week asked me if it was a Raleigh. http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/72157625041700254/... Based on my Riv custom but modified for 700c tires, front rack portage and built w/lighter weight tubing. Lesli Larson Eugene, OR On May 14, 5:40 pm, dpco dpco...@gmail.com wrote: That's truly, a beautiful bicycle. On another note, were are you finding TA Zephyr cranks? I have three sets, on my Roadeo, my Tournesol, and on my Steve Rex. Don On May 14, 5:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Thanks; again, very nice bikes, both of those Vanillas. I must make one of those slap straps. A trip to Tandy's is in order. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick-- Here's another set from the Vanilla Workshop flickr stream. Better snaps of the chainslap guard (a custom jobber by Sacha). http://www.flickr.com/photos/42587323@N08/sets/72157625660029858/ Front rack and decaleur were custom designed by Sacha to work with my Acorn boxy rando bag. Rack attaches mid-point on front fork and at the fork crown. It does a great job of stabilizing front loads and keeping my cue sheet legible on bumpy roads! Best, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Beautiful Ride! What would you say makes this a different bike than your Roadeo? Rob - http://oceanaircycles.com/ On May 14, 5:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Little More Vanilla
Very very nice. Love the colors and the way you spec'd it. Enjoy. --mike On May 14, 5:32 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Fat Tire Flyer; very nice climber, fabulous on steep twisty descents on awful pavement. Love the Paul M-Racers and the Jack Browns http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626721226882/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.