[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Justin Schoop]

Thanks, I have a pair showing up tomorrow.

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

While the previously mounted Schwalbe Marathons are tops in terms of 
durability and reliability (i.e. they're bomb-proof), the Compass tires 
easily outclass them in terms of pure ride quality. Between weighing 
roughly two lbs less per set and being constructed of much more supple 
casing, I am finding all the praise Compass tires get regarding speed and 
comfort to be justified. FYI for those interested, my calipers measure the 
week-old set at about 40.5 mm.

My only other tire comparison in 650b would be the Soma B-line, which is 
essentially a 38mm Pasela. The Marathons and B-lines would serve as great 
tires for many practical applications, but this new set of Babyshoe Pass 
tires has me simultaneously riding faster AND enjoying the ride much more.

Will report back on these tires after a few months of zipping around on 
mixed terrain...

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 9:25:28 AM UTC-7, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> Any comment on the tires so far?

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Justin Schoop]

Any comment on the tires so far?

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Swapped in Compass Babyshoe Pass tires under VO snakeskin fenders:











Awesome ride is now more awesome.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Swapped in Compass Babyshoe Pass tires under VO snakeskin fenders. Awesome 
ride is now more awesome.














On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Swapped in Compass Babyshoe Pass tires under VO snakeskin fenders. Awesome 
ride now more awesome.











On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Evan Baird]

There are still some chrome "j" replacement forks available, but I wouldn't 
wait too long because I'm told they don't plan on producing any more San 
Marcos. So I assume forks are done too.

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[lucero]

Thanks!

I believe the fork styling was switched to a tight, low bend at some point 
in 2015. I bought my San Marcos frameset new in April 2015, so I must have 
gotten one of the last 2014 frames laying around. If I knew the fork change 
was coming I would have held off a few months, but the banana bend is 
aesthetically pleasing in its own right IMO.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 11:35:55 AM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
>
> Nice bikes, guys. I noticed that Phillip's fork has a more French-style 
> bend to it.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Paul G]

Nice bikes, guys. I noticed that Phillip's fork has a more French-style 
bend to it.

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[lucero]

Here's how this Amos looks after a few weeks of tinkering:









I raised the bars up nice and high and mounted Mark's rack with a medium 
Wald. In the original photoset you might have noticed a slight dip in the 
fender line below the fork crown. I opened up more front fender clearance 
by:

   - replacing the L-shaped fender mounting bracket with a fork crown daruma
   - swapping the Tektro R559 out for a Paul Racer

I'm happy with the results. Kudos to Box Dog Bikes for the help.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Tim Gavin]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Lucero 
wrote:

>
> Tim, feel free to drop those new photos into this thread if/when you snap
> them. Looks like an awesome build. I feel the understated Tiburon Blue
> suits me better, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think the original
> pearly blue was gorgeous. Sorry to hear about the front rack and pannier
> situation, sounds like you need a matching set.
>

I did end up finding a matching set of Ortliebs from a list member (Sport
Packers and Back Rollers), and I have a Nitto Mt. Campee Classic (F20)
lowrider rack.  Although, my Riv Road's mid-trail fork and rear eyelets
only means that rack rides very close to the fork legs.  I can make it
work, but only by running the centerpull straddle cable *in front of* the
yoke on the platform.  I used that setup (F20 and Sport Packers) for
RAGBRAI 2015.

For now, my Riv is set up with a Mark's Rack and a Banzer / Treetop rando
bag.

My '88 Schwinn KOM is a better 4-bag mule anyway, especially now that I've
added a bunch of rack eyelets.

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Thanks, everyone!

Philip, I definitely had to get creative to mount the front fender. At the 
time I was thinking I could use a Paul Racer or a Dia Compe Mod 750 up 
front. Glad to hear the Racer works for you. Beautiful bike!

Tim, feel free to drop those new photos into this thread if/when you snap 
them. Looks like an awesome build. I feel the understated Tiburon Blue 
suits me better, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think the original 
pearly blue was gorgeous. Sorry to hear about the front rack and pannier 
situation, sounds like you need a matching set.

Linda, it's there, but to be honest I never thought of or noticed it until 
you asked. Thanks to the 650b and the expanded geometry, toe overlap is 
minimal.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Linda G]

How is toe overlap on the 51?

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[WETH]

That is a beautiful bike and build. Well done and enjoy the rides.
Thanks for sharing,
Erl

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:33:52 AM UTC-5, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Philip Kim]

Also your pics definitely catch the color more accurately than mine ...

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Awesome build! Here's mine. Also a 51cm. Agree it is an awesome ride.
>
> Dyad 650b wheelset, SP dyno. Paul Racers, Nitto RM-013 handlebars, 42mm 
> Parimotos in the picture, but currently run 42mm Paselas. I also run a 1x9 
> and it has been awesome. Shimano 5800 crankset w/ Wolftooth chainring 38, 
> with IRD/Riv 12-40 9 speed cassette. Used a "road link" from Wolftooth, 
> which allows my Shimano 105 rear derailleur to successfully shift all 
> gears. 
>
> I have Tektro 559's as my rear brake on my Cheviot, and the Paul Racers 
> allow more clearance. I can fit fenders with the 42mm tires. 
>
> I use rackless bags (top tube frame bag, handlebar bag, seatbag) to carry 
> more load.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:33:52 AM UTC-5, Lucero wrote:
>>
>> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
>> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
>> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
>> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY 
>> 
>>
>> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
>> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
>> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
>> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
>> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
>> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
>> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
>> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>>
>> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
>> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
>> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
>> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
>> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
>> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
>> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>>
>> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out 
>> my tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, 
>> thus the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure 
>> - high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in 
>> SF, who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides 
>> Rivendell and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to 
>> speak of, but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a 
>> few mm tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud 
>> to the equation.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[blakcloud]

That is a really nice bike. Enjoy!

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