[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Den John]

+1 on the combination of King Cage Iris with Kleen Kanteen. I use this for 
gravel and MTB riding and haven't been bothered by rattling.

Another advantage of stainless steel is that you can use the bottles to 
boil water on a fire to make it safer for drinking if need be. Probably not 
something you would want to do regularly, but I have done it occasionally.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Thursday, 5 May 2022 at 16:37:22 UTC+2 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> @ Andrew,
>
> Thanks for sharing.  We will be checking out the Bivo.  Their cap and 
> (gravity) flow rate looks ideal (ex-NASA developed!).  Will be on the 
> lookout for their insulated model, hopefully soon.
>
> We continue to use Hydroflask models, but the flow rate out of their 
> specific mouthpiece is just so-so.  Plus, cleaning the inside of their cap 
> can be concerning, lots of nooks and crannies.  
>
> @ Miles: we too use King Cages (with above stainless steel Hydroflasks).  
> We've found the King Cage 'Iris' model cage to hold a naked stainless 
> container a little better vs. King's  (we've used both models of King 
> Cages).  The amount of friction between the two King Cages is clearly 
> evident.  Granted, we were *not *using this specific combo off-road 
> though.
>
> While off-road we used the large wide-mouth Hydroflask (40 ounce - 1.18 
> liter) insulated container with a BBB XL Fueltank cage + Voile strap.  This 
> combo was extremely secure in all kinds of rough terrain (it never ejected 
> off the bike).  It obviously removes the possibility and ease of drinking 
> while riding a bike though.  It was simply a way to carry a decent amount 
> of water securely while cyclotouring/bikepacking.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-7 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
>> I'd share.
>> https://drinkbivo.com/   
>>
>> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
>> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
>> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
>> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
>> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
>> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
>> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
>> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>>
>> Andrew
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Jeffrey Arita]

@ Andrew,

Thanks for sharing.  We will be checking out the Bivo.  Their cap and 
(gravity) flow rate looks ideal (ex-NASA developed!).  Will be on the 
lookout for their insulated model, hopefully soon.

We continue to use Hydroflask models, but the flow rate out of their 
specific mouthpiece is just so-so.  Plus, cleaning the inside of their cap 
can be concerning, lots of nooks and crannies.  

@ Miles: we too use King Cages (with above stainless steel Hydroflasks).  
We've found the King Cage 'Iris' model cage to hold a naked stainless 
container a little better vs. King's  (we've used both models of King 
Cages).  The amount of friction between the two King Cages is clearly 
evident.  Granted, we were *not *using this specific combo off-road though.

While off-road we used the large wide-mouth Hydroflask (40 ounce - 1.18 
liter) insulated container with a BBB XL Fueltank cage + Voile strap.  This 
combo was extremely secure in all kinds of rough terrain (it never ejected 
off the bike).  It obviously removes the possibility and ease of drinking 
while riding a bike though.  It was simply a way to carry a decent amount 
of water securely while cyclotouring/bikepacking.

Best regards,

Jeff
Claremont, CA





On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-7 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
> I'd share.
> https://drinkbivo.com/   
>
> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>
> Andrew

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[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Miles]

+1 for Bivo, I'm really enjoying mine. However, I did get the raw stainless 
and ejected one out of a Ti King Cage on a gravel descent. If you're riding 
rough stuff the silicon coated might be a better option, though I've never 
felt on in-hand.

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:29:34 PM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Andrew, 
>
> Did you buy the raw or the coated version. How are they noise wise on a 
> bumpy road? I tried Kleen Kanteen a few years back and the clatter annoyed 
> my a lot -- but I thimnk thatmight have been the less than optimal fit in 
> my metal cages. 
>
> Thanks for the review -- it's always interesting to hear about innovative 
> new products. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:12:48 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
>> I'd share.
>> https://drinkbivo.com/   
>>
>> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
>> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
>> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
>> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
>> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
>> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
>> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
>> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>>
>> Andrew
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Julian Westerhout]

Andrew, 

Did you buy the raw or the coated version. How are they noise wise on a 
bumpy road? I tried Kleen Kanteen a few years back and the clatter annoyed 
my a lot -- but I thimnk thatmight have been the less than optimal fit in 
my metal cages. 

Thanks for the review -- it's always interesting to hear about innovative 
new products. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:12:48 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
> I'd share.
> https://drinkbivo.com/   
>
> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>
> Andrew

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