[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Jeremy Till]

Sounds like you're convinced already, but just to add one more data point: 
I'm runnning 40mm tires (wtb nano's) on the 700c cliffhangers currently and 
it works great.  As others have said, the wide rim spreads out the tires 
profile, maximizes its volume, and makes it ride and handle really nice, 
IMHO.  I constantly feel like the 40mm tires on that bike outperform their 
width in terms of traction and smoothness, compared to similarly sized 
tires on another bike with more standard width rims (CR-18 and Dyad)

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 12:50:34 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
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> Alright. Done deal. Thanks everyone. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[drew]

Alright. Done deal. Thanks everyone. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Garth]

About the only time a rim is too wide is if the rim is wider than the tire 
!  I recall back in the day riding on Specialized 1.5" tires on Araya 7x 
rims which are 32.2mm .  Wider rims give better tire profiles than narrow 
ones. In pro road racing for example, they run rims that are near the same 
width as the tires for the least air turbulence. We're talking like a 
23/25mm tire on a 23mm rim or a 25/28mm tire on a 25mm rim.  Of course this 
doesn't matter for us but offering this as an example of just how close rim 
and tire width can be. No longer are the days of running the narrowest rims 
you can find to run a tire more than twice it's width. 


On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:48:40 AM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> Ok leaning toward cliffhangers. They won't be too wide for a 46mm tire, 
> right? I'm thinking I'll run compass sbh or wtb horizon for most regular 
> riding and then have the option to put something bigger on for off road 
> trips. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Philip Kim]

I think SBH will be closer to 48-50mm range depending on pressure for cliff 
hangers. they are 47.5mm on pacenti brevets with 19mm internal width i 
believe. so the cliff hangers should be fine with SBH

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:48:40 AM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> Ok leaning toward cliffhangers. They won't be too wide for a 46mm tire, 
> right? I'm thinking I'll run compass sbh or wtb horizon for most regular 
> riding and then have the option to put something bigger on for off road 
> trips. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Kellie Stapleton]

Don't think so . I just took 1.75's off them.

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 12:48 AM, drew  wrote:
> 
> Ok leaning toward cliffhangers. They won't be too wide for a 46mm tire, 
> right? I'm thinking I'll run compass sbh or wtb horizon for most regular 
> riding and then have the option to put something bigger on for off road 
> trips. 
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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[drew]

Ok leaning toward cliffhangers. They won't be too wide for a 46mm tire, right? 
I'm thinking I'll run compass sbh or wtb horizon for most regular riding and 
then have the option to put something bigger on for off road trips. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Kellie]

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 4:24:28 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Yes, Velocity Cliffhanger is tubeless ready and I love them.  Also a 
> little wider rim to take advantage of "cush." I just happened to have 
> converted to tubeless this weekend with Rat Trap Pass. Here's a photo of 
> those rims:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:56:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
>> significant chunk of money. 
>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, 
>> so I'm pretty ignorant here. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Kellie]

Yes, Velocity Cliffhanger is tubeless ready and I love them.  Also a little 
wider rim to take advantage of "cush." I just happened to have converted to 
tubeless this weekend with Rat Trap Pass. Here's a photo of those rims:





On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:56:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
> significant chunk of money. 
> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, so 
> I'm pretty ignorant here. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Jim Bronson]

The Atlas is more like a stouter Synergy, the rims look almost
identical.  I have a mixed Synergy/Atlas wheelset (F/R).  After I
cracked the rear Synergy, Velocity rebuilt the wheel with an Atlas.  I
removed the labels on both and you really can't tell the difference.

No issues since the rebuild.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:21 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> Yeah, I think the cliffhanger is the way to go for anyone wanting strong,
> wide, rim brake compatible rims.  I think the atlas are just stouter dyads,
> which I've found to be too narrow for 50+mm tires.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>> I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're fantastic,
>> and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake ready.
>> -Kai
>> BK NY
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was
>>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering
>>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a
>>> significant chunk of money.
>>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking,
>>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim.
>>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out,
>>> so I'm pretty ignorant here.
>
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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Scott Blouke]

I am really happy with 36h 650b Cliffhangers they are stout, built up easy, 
nice and wide and were amazingly easy to setup some thunder burts up 
tubeless for my Bombadil.

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Yeah, I think the cliffhanger is the way to go for anyone wanting strong, 
> wide, rim brake compatible rims.  I think the atlas are just stouter dyads, 
> which I've found to be too narrow for 50+mm tires.  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>> I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're 
>> fantastic, and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake 
>> ready. 
>> -Kai
>> BK NY
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
>>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
>>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
>>> significant chunk of money. 
>>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
>>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
>>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, 
>>> so I'm pretty ignorant here. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yeah, I think the cliffhanger is the way to go for anyone wanting strong, 
wide, rim brake compatible rims.  I think the atlas are just stouter dyads, 
which I've found to be too narrow for 50+mm tires.  



On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
> I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're fantastic, 
> and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake ready. 
> -Kai
> BK NY
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>
>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
>> significant chunk of money. 
>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, 
>> so I'm pretty ignorant here. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[drew]

36 just cause I tend to overload and overabuse. Probably woundnt damage a 32 
hole, but 36 would give me better piece of mind, i think. 

Good info on the cliffhangers. I was looking at them too.  

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Kai Vierstra]

http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're fantastic, 
and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake ready. 
-Kai
BK NY


On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
> significant chunk of money. 
> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, so 
> I'm pretty ignorant here. 

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