[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Bill Lindsay]

$250?  Seems like there's an extra digit in the price.  Delete any of those 
three digits and we'll be in the ballpark.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:13:59 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>
> Hey All,
> Not mine. No relation. And in Riv HQ's backyard.
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4956548516.html
>
> Chris
> Redding, Ca.
>

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Hah. I have seen these before with "Bridgestone" written all over them. I 
assumed they were B-stones. If someone has at the ready the best place to 
learn what I apparently don't know, please send it my way.

So is this guy taking a trip to Riv HQ for nothing? 

Feeling sheepish in beautiful Redding, Ca,
Chris

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Bill Lindsay]

I think everything you need to know is included in the phrase:

Guaranteed World Finest Bicycle Precision Mechanism


But seriously,1970s bike-boom bikes like that were about $100 new, and 
should depreciate from there.  They are bicycles, and as such worthy of 
being ridden.  They never were collectors items, and as such are not worthy 
of increasing in value.  In the 80s when you needed a beater for college, 
you'd pick up one of those for $20 at a garage sale and not cry when it got 
stolen. In the 90s when they rolled in as a trade in, you'd put straight 
bars and new tires and cables on them, and sell them for $80.  Now, no 
mechanics even remember cottered cranks, much less possess the tools to get 
them off, much less possess the cotters to put them back on.  

That one is a really really nice color and the chromed tips are pretty, but 
if I owned that bike, I'd give it away.  If Grant saw it locked to a 
parking meter, he might take photos of it and write interesting comments 
about manufacturing details of the era, but he would have no interest in 
owning it, possessing it, or riding it, much less giving any of his money 
for it.  The 1970s were a miraculous time in the history of cycling, that 
laid the groundwork for a lot of things that happened afterwards, but the 
cheapest bikes from the 1970s deserve to be collected about as much as the 
cheapest cars from the 1970s do.  
 

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:47:11 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>
> Hah. I have seen these before with "Bridgestone" written all over them. I 
> assumed they were B-stones. If someone has at the ready the best place to 
> learn what I apparently don't know, please send it my way.
>
> So is this guy taking a trip to Riv HQ for nothing? 
>
> Feeling sheepish in beautiful Redding, Ca,
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Chris in Redding, Ca.]

Thanks Bill. Funny how stuff works. I know a place that has all the cotters 
you would want. He is a frame maker/shop owner from way back. I go there 
sometimes for what I need. I don't ride those bikes but I fix them. I know 
another place that has a store of the leather washers for Silca track 
pumps. Odd how each of us values things differently. Someone here (or a 
BOB) recently posted that he woud rather drive a second hand BMW rather 
than a new Corolla. That struck me only in that I feel entirely 
differently. 

Thanks for the perspective.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Bill Lindsay]

It's the VAR cotter press that is worth owning:

VAR Cotter Press 

I'd love to have one of those hanging at my workbench.  Not kidding.  

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:29:30 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill. Funny how stuff works. I know a place that has all the 
> cotters you would want. He is a frame maker/shop owner from way back. I go 
> there sometimes for what I need. I don't ride those bikes but I fix them. I 
> know another place that has a store of the leather washers for Silca track 
> pumps. Odd how each of us values things differently. Someone here (or a 
> BOB) recently posted that he woud rather drive a second hand BMW rather 
> than a new Corolla. That struck me only in that I feel entirely 
> differently. 
>
> Thanks for the perspective.
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

[Joe Bernard]

250 is steep, but I think he'll find a buyer for 150. Sure, it's a heavy 
old bike-boom 10-speed with steel parts, but there's a small group of folks 
out there who have a touch of fondest for these things, and this one is in 
very nice shape with a pretty color. 

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:13:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I think everything you need to know is included in the phrase:
>
> Guaranteed World Finest Bicycle Precision Mechanism
>
>
> But seriously,1970s bike-boom bikes like that were about $100 new, and 
> should depreciate from there.  They are bicycles, and as such worthy of 
> being ridden.  They never were collectors items, and as such are not worthy 
> of increasing in value.  In the 80s when you needed a beater for college, 
> you'd pick up one of those for $20 at a garage sale and not cry when it got 
> stolen. In the 90s when they rolled in as a trade in, you'd put straight 
> bars and new tires and cables on them, and sell them for $80.  Now, no 
> mechanics even remember cottered cranks, much less possess the tools to get 
> them off, much less possess the cotters to put them back on.  
>
> That one is a really really nice color and the chromed tips are pretty, 
> but if I owned that bike, I'd give it away.  If Grant saw it locked to a 
> parking meter, he might take photos of it and write interesting comments 
> about manufacturing details of the era, but he would have no interest in 
> owning it, possessing it, or riding it, much less giving any of his money 
> for it.  The 1970s were a miraculous time in the history of cycling, that 
> laid the groundwork for a lot of things that happened afterwards, but the 
> cheapest bikes from the 1970s deserve to be collected about as much as the 
> cheapest cars from the 1970s do.  
>  
>
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:47:11 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
>>
>> Hah. I have seen these before with "Bridgestone" written all over them. I 
>> assumed they were B-stones. If someone has at the ready the best place to 
>> learn what I apparently don't know, please send it my way.
>>
>> So is this guy taking a trip to Riv HQ for nothing? 
>>
>> Feeling sheepish in beautiful Redding, Ca,
>> Chris
>>
>

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