[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-30 Thread Rob
I've been very happy with my Randi Jo Fab saddle cover for my Berthoud. She 
makes one for Brooks as well: 
https://www.randijofab.com/products-page/saddle-covers/saddle-cover 
https://www.randijofab.com/products-page/saddle-covers/saddle-cover

It's held up well for the year and a half I've had it. Breathable cover. 

I sent her my Berthoud to use as a pattern. Very well made.

Rob in Seattle

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RE: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Maybe UV even affects bars?  From the next to last Blug: Nitto says any 
aluminum handlebar that's ten years old should be replaced. Aluminum degrades 
when it's exposed to the elements, and soyou also might not want to ride 
your twenty-five year old French handlebars that were made when there were mild 
standards if any to pass. The same for 20-year old Cinelli drop bars. It all 
depends.


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Subject: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

That's a good point, Jim.

I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for 
daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv owners) 
not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable housings 
get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess.

I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my 
aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV 
defense too in the bargain.

-Pete in CT

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a leather 
saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are at 5600 feet 
here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.   Where my bike is 
parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely concerned about 
this as summer approaches.

Jim in Boulder

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:
I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.

 They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.

On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
 stop the water spray well enough?

 Thanks
 JL

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Ablejack
Gilles Berthoud also makes an interesting cover (and saddles). It is simply 
latex rubber and stretches to fit snugly on the saddle. Completely 
waterproof.  
/and yes, use fenders unless you're racing.

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:34:21 AM UTC-4, JL wrote:

 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I 
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a 
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders 
 stop the water spray well enough? 

 Thanks 
 JL

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Ablejack


On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:41:39 AM UTC-4, Ablejack wrote:

 Gilles Berthoud also makes an interesting cover (and saddles). It is 
 simply latex rubber and stretches to fit snugly on the saddle. Completely 
 waterproof.  
 /and yes, use fenders unless you're racing.

 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:34:21 AM UTC-4, JL wrote:

 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I 
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a 
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders 
 stop the water spray well enough? 

 Thanks 
 JL



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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Jim
I wasn't, actually.

Jim in Boulder

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:14:08 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right?

 Patrick Moore, tanning his skin at 5,000+ feet in ABQ, NM.

 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
  That's a good point, Jim.
 
  I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used 
 for
  daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
  If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv
  owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and 
 cable
  housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I 
 guess.
 
  I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use 
 my
  aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting 
 UV
  defense too in the bargain.
 
  -Pete in CT
 
  On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
 
  Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a
  leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are 
 at
  5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.
  Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm 
 definitely
  concerned about this as summer approaches.
 
  Jim in Boulder
 
  On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:
 
  I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
  two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
  very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
  quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
  either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.
 
   They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.
 
  On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
   What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
   know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
   plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
   stop the water spray well enough?
  
   Thanks
   JL
 
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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread dean899
Randi jo fab (riv no carries them) cover to ride on, keep on, and look
oh so good

On Mar 27, 2:15 pm, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.com wrote:
 ryan
 what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid SCB-2?
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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Rick
I have to dissent on the aardvark.  I ride to work, and from here
sometimes to the courthouse a couple of blocks away.  I'm in the habit
of slipping the aardvark on when I lock the atlantis up at work for
the brooks-camouflage reason -- the rack is inside the parking garage,
so while theft is not much of a problem, the threat of rain is even
less.

At the courthouse, although the bike rack sits in a covered spot, when
it rains water works its way through a crack in the overhead trestles
and just dumps on the racks.   It's like the spot was selected for
free bike washing / seat-cover testing.  In any event, when I put the
aardvark on there, my saddle gets wet.  Not drenched, but not in my
preferred dry state either.  Saddle is one of the honey ones, so it's
pretty obvious when the aardvark is less than effective.

I picked up a Randi Jo Fab saddle cover after several instances of
above.

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s92.htm

It's more of a hastle to slip on than the aardvark, what with the
under-cover and all.  It does a better job in the bike-washing rack at
the courthouse -- no signs of leaks as yet.  It did have an incident
when I hit a spring deluge on the way home one day and the very tip of
the saddle was damp.  I suspect user error on that one, though -- you
have to velcro the under and over covers together, and it's probably
the case that I didn't get it done correctly.

All that being said, when saddle camo is not in need, I like the
Brooks-issued ones just fine too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Ryan Ray
There is no label on it but I believe it's most likely the smaller one. I 
picked the one the nice folks at FreeRange told me to pick.

- Ryan






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 ryan

 what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid 
 SCB-2?

 mike goldman

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-28 Thread Peter Pesce
Well for some if us who leave bikes locked up outside it IS an issue! Not while 
riding of course. 
I have a 15 minute commute/ 13 hour bike rack lock up/ 15 minute commute. The 
time this particular saddle spends without its ass hat is vastly greater than 
the time it is covered by me. Other bikes, maybe, not so much. 

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike On A Bike
I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.

 They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.

On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
 stop the water spray well enough?

 Thanks
 JL

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Earl Grey
Here in the tropics, the elastic on the Aardvarks gives up within
months. The best cover I ever had was the Rivendell custom made that
they no longer carry (because they need to order 300 at a time; bad
for cash flow). Shall we see if we can get a group order going? I'll
take 5...seriously.

Gernot
Thailand

On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 21:29 -1000, Robert F. Harrison wrote:
  I use one of the Aardvark covers from Riv these
  days.http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s91.htm

 I do, too.  It works well.



  I have a couple of actual Brooks covers but I generally don't use them
  if I have to be away from my bike because they clearly say Brooks on
  them.

 I have one of those, too.  It was never waterproof -- I fixed that by
 using a plastic bowl cover under it -- but the elastic stretched out and
 became useless after a few years.

  The Aardvark is cheap (but not shoddy), works great, and as it says in
  the promo, it disguises a fine leather saddle.

 And keeps it dry in the rain, too.

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Jim
Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a leather 
saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are at 5600 feet 
here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.   Where my 
bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely 
concerned about this as summer approaches.

Jim in Boulder

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:

 I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about 
 two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are 
 very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high 
 quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from 
 either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both. 

  They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle. 

 On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: 
  What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I 
  know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a 
  plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders 
  stop the water spray well enough? 
  
  Thanks 
  JL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread cyclotourist
I like the one Brooks
sellshttp://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/spareparts/maintenance+products/Rain+Cover/.
Don't put too much stock in my opinion for wet-weather riding though, it
doesn't happen very frequently.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here in the tropics, the elastic on the Aardvarks gives up within
 months. The best cover I ever had was the Rivendell custom made that
 they no longer carry (because they need to order 300 at a time; bad
 for cash flow). Shall we see if we can get a group order going? I'll
 take 5...seriously.

 Gernot
 Thailand

 On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
  On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 21:29 -1000, Robert F. Harrison wrote:
   I use one of the Aardvark covers from Riv these
   days.http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s91.htm
 
  I do, too.  It works well.
 
 
 
   I have a couple of actual Brooks covers but I generally don't use them
   if I have to be away from my bike because they clearly say Brooks on
   them.
 
  I have one of those, too.  It was never waterproof -- I fixed that by
  using a plastic bowl cover under it -- but the elastic stretched out and
  became useless after a few years.
 
   The Aardvark is cheap (but not shoddy), works great, and as it says in
   the promo, it disguises a fine leather saddle.
 
  And keeps it dry in the rain, too.

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread ascpgh


On Mar 27, 3:29 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use one of the Aardvark covers from Riv these 
 days.http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s91.htm

Like Steve, I use and vouch for these as well.

Only able to compare with elastic bowl covers and drug store shower
caps (single tasteful colors only) prior to that.

ANDY
Pittsburgh

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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Peter Pesce
That's a good point, Jim. 

I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for 
daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv 
owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable 
housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess.

I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my 
aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV 
defense too in the bargain.  

-Pete in CT

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:

 Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a 
 leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are at 
 5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.   
 Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm 
 definitely concerned about this as summer approaches.

 Jim in Boulder

 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:

 I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about 
 two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are 
 very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high 
 quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from 
 either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both. 

  They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle. 

 On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: 
  What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I 
  know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a 
  plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders 
  stop the water spray well enough? 
  
  Thanks 
  JL



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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Ryan Ray
If you plan on riding with the cover on there is only one cover I 
like: 
https://www.serfas.com/products/view/203/referer:products%7Cindex%7Csaddles%7Creactive-gel-saddles

Here is what a saddle looks like with one of the hard, heavy 
covers: http://www.velofred.com/images/reviews/1313713525.jpg

Here is what a saddle looks like with the serfas 
cover: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/317bJ1dj5DL._SS400_.jpg

The aardvark one and the brooks ones are heavy  crinkly and not 
comfortable at all. You can hardly tell the stretchy serfas one is on.


- Ryan




On Monday, March 26, 2012 10:34:21 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:

 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I 
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a 
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders 
 stop the water spray well enough? 

 Thanks 
 JL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
ryan
what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid SCB-2?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right?

Patrick Moore, tanning his skin at 5,000+ feet in ABQ, NM.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a good point, Jim.

 I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for
 daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now.
 If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv
 owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable
 housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess.

 I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my
 aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV
 defense too in the bargain.

 -Pete in CT

 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:

 Do any of these covers provide UV protection?  Is UV an issue for a
 leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors.  We are at
 5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer.
 Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely
 concerned about this as summer approaches.

 Jim in Boulder

 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote:

 I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about
 two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are
 very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high
 quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from
 either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both.

  They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle.

 On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
  What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
  know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
  plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
  stop the water spray well enough?
 
  Thanks
  JL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 18:14 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right?

Lends a whole new meaning to the term ass hat...



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[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-27 Thread dougP
+1 for the Aardvark.  Rugged, gets the job done  fits well.

dougP

On Mar 27, 12:29 am, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I use one of the Aardvark covers from Riv these 
 days.http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s91.htm

 I have a couple of actual Brooks covers but I generally don't use them if I
 have to be away from my bike because they clearly say Brooks on them. The
 Aardvark is cheap (but not shoddy), works great, and as it says in the
 promo, it disguises a fine leather saddle.

 I also have fenders on all my bikes (which all have some sort of B-17) and
 that does keep muck from flying up.

 Finally, I never park my bike upside down in the rain. Though I suppose
 with enough Obenauf's even that'd be okay for a bit. (And I don't use too
 much Obenauf's...once a year when I remember).

 Aloha (in Hilo right now where yes, it's raining and yes, the bike I keep
 here, currently an RB-1, has a Brooks). :-)

 Bob





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  What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
  know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
  plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
  stop the water spray well enough?

  Thanks
  JL

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