[RBW] Re: billie bars
My Homer started out with Billie Bars, a 110mm stem, and thumbies. The short reach made for a very comfortable upright riding position, but for me, steering felt compromised. I think if I had switched to a 130mm stem, that might have solved the awkward steering, but I decided to convert to drops because I love making situations more difficult. If you do go with Billie Bars, get a very long stem if you want to use bar end shifters (and for better steering). On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 10:37:33 PM UTC-7 turmoili...@gmail.com wrote: > thank you all for the feedback! helps a lot especially w that last photo > > i’m planning on putting the billie bars on a homer hilsen w a tallux stem > - i have both thumbies and bar ends. i enjoy the length of the albatross > but wish i had a little bit more room for different riding positions > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 5:37:38 AM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Raf, having used Albatross bars - with bar ends - as well as Billies with >> thumb shifters I have to second Jim's and Glen's suggestions. Here's a pic >> of the Billies on my Platypus. The Billies are great for varying your hand >> position. >> >> [image: 5D038467-8997-43B3-9CBB-1B1DF9ADC3A4_1_201_a.jpeg] >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 12:06:52 PM UTC-4 Glen wrote: >> >>> I had the same experience with bar ends as Jim with my Albatross bars >>> and switched to Billies with thumb (L) & trigger (R) shifters. I would not >>> like bar ends on Billies unless I had a very long stem, were talking >>> unobtainable long. I love the extra hand position in front of the grips for >>> heads down riding and the closer hand position when on the grips. >>> >>> Spend some time riding with your hands on the shifter pods & levers to >>> get an idea of the Billy Bar relaxed on the grips position. >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 8:03:01 AM UTC-6 Jim in Mpls wrote: >>> Hi Raf What bike are you thinking of putting Billies on? They come back quite a bit, so if your bike wasn't necessarily designed for upright bars with a long front end(like current Rivs), you may run into problems with bar end shifters. I put a set on my 96 All-Rounder, and kept hitting my knees on the bar end shifters. I switched to thumb shifters, because I love the extra hand positions with the Billies over the Albatross bars. Jim On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 4:54:39 AM UTC-5 Ed Fausto wrote: > Hi Raf, > I have an Albatross on my Toyo Atlantis. > But on the MIT Atlantis with long top tube, I preferred the Billie > bar specially the longer grip area which allows me to have more area to > grip on the bend part. > But I use thumb shifters on the Billie :-) > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 1:49:14 PM UTC+8 turmoili...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> hello all >> >> i wanted to get some opinions on the billie bars - im debating >> getting some for a current build with bar-end shifters. i used to ride >> drop >> bars, but making the switch ( i have albatross bars currently) >> >> curious to know if ppl here ride them/ favorite bike set up with >> them? >> >> thanks, >> raf >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3a85b0f0-23aa-4bc9-b17a-4276cfce7b7en%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: billie bars
thank you all for the feedback! helps a lot especially w that last photo i’m planning on putting the billie bars on a homer hilsen w a tallux stem - i have both thumbies and bar ends. i enjoy the length of the albatross but wish i had a little bit more room for different riding positions On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 5:37:38 AM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote: > Raf, having used Albatross bars - with bar ends - as well as Billies with > thumb shifters I have to second Jim's and Glen's suggestions. Here's a pic > of the Billies on my Platypus. The Billies are great for varying your hand > position. > > [image: 5D038467-8997-43B3-9CBB-1B1DF9ADC3A4_1_201_a.jpeg] > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 12:06:52 PM UTC-4 Glen wrote: > >> I had the same experience with bar ends as Jim with my Albatross bars and >> switched to Billies with thumb (L) & trigger (R) shifters. I would not like >> bar ends on Billies unless I had a very long stem, were talking >> unobtainable long. I love the extra hand position in front of the grips for >> heads down riding and the closer hand position when on the grips. >> >> Spend some time riding with your hands on the shifter pods & levers to >> get an idea of the Billy Bar relaxed on the grips position. >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 8:03:01 AM UTC-6 Jim in Mpls wrote: >> >>> Hi Raf >>> What bike are you thinking of putting Billies on? >>> They come back quite a bit, so if your bike wasn't necessarily designed >>> for upright bars with a long front end(like current Rivs), you may run into >>> problems with bar end shifters. >>> I put a set on my 96 All-Rounder, and kept hitting my knees on the bar >>> end shifters. I switched to thumb shifters, because I love the extra hand >>> positions with the Billies over the Albatross bars. >>> Jim >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 4:54:39 AM UTC-5 Ed Fausto wrote: >>> Hi Raf, I have an Albatross on my Toyo Atlantis. But on the MIT Atlantis with long top tube, I preferred the Billie bar specially the longer grip area which allows me to have more area to grip on the bend part. But I use thumb shifters on the Billie :-) On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 1:49:14 PM UTC+8 turmoili...@gmail.com wrote: > hello all > > i wanted to get some opinions on the billie bars - im debating getting > some for a current build with bar-end shifters. i used to ride drop bars, > but making the switch ( i have albatross bars currently) > > curious to know if ppl here ride them/ favorite bike set up with them? > > thanks, > raf > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/15ae5fd8-a1a2-47a9-a67e-1b339b2e065fn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: billie bars
I had the same experience with bar ends as Jim with my Albatross bars and switched to Billies with thumb (L) & trigger (R) shifters. I would not like bar ends on Billies unless I had a very long stem, were talking unobtainable long. I love the extra hand position in front of the grips for heads down riding and the closer hand position when on the grips. Spend some time riding with your hands on the shifter pods & levers to get an idea of the Billy Bar relaxed on the grips position. On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 8:03:01 AM UTC-6 Jim in Mpls wrote: > Hi Raf > What bike are you thinking of putting Billies on? > They come back quite a bit, so if your bike wasn't necessarily designed > for upright bars with a long front end(like current Rivs), you may run into > problems with bar end shifters. > I put a set on my 96 All-Rounder, and kept hitting my knees on the bar end > shifters. I switched to thumb shifters, because I love the extra hand > positions with the Billies over the Albatross bars. > Jim > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 4:54:39 AM UTC-5 Ed Fausto wrote: > >> Hi Raf, >> I have an Albatross on my Toyo Atlantis. >> But on the MIT Atlantis with long top tube, I preferred the Billie bar >> specially the longer grip area which allows me to have more area to grip on >> the bend part. >> But I use thumb shifters on the Billie :-) >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 1:49:14 PM UTC+8 turmoili...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> hello all >>> >>> i wanted to get some opinions on the billie bars - im debating getting >>> some for a current build with bar-end shifters. i used to ride drop bars, >>> but making the switch ( i have albatross bars currently) >>> >>> curious to know if ppl here ride them/ favorite bike set up with them? >>> >>> thanks, >>> raf >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2db9899e-3589-4f98-9d8a-4b8f04900558n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: billie bars
Hi Raf What bike are you thinking of putting Billies on? They come back quite a bit, so if your bike wasn't necessarily designed for upright bars with a long front end(like current Rivs), you may run into problems with bar end shifters. I put a set on my 96 All-Rounder, and kept hitting my knees on the bar end shifters. I switched to thumb shifters, because I love the extra hand positions with the Billies over the Albatross bars. Jim On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 4:54:39 AM UTC-5 Ed Fausto wrote: > Hi Raf, > I have an Albatross on my Toyo Atlantis. > But on the MIT Atlantis with long top tube, I preferred the Billie bar > specially the longer grip area which allows me to have more area to grip on > the bend part. > But I use thumb shifters on the Billie :-) > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 1:49:14 PM UTC+8 turmoili...@gmail.com wrote: > >> hello all >> >> i wanted to get some opinions on the billie bars - im debating getting >> some for a current build with bar-end shifters. i used to ride drop bars, >> but making the switch ( i have albatross bars currently) >> >> curious to know if ppl here ride them/ favorite bike set up with them? >> >> thanks, >> raf >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c876747e-c7db-4fe0-9969-984d47d59cbdn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: billie bars
Hi Raf, I have an Albatross on my Toyo Atlantis. But on the MIT Atlantis with long top tube, I preferred the Billie bar specially the longer grip area which allows me to have more area to grip on the bend part. But I use thumb shifters on the Billie :-) On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 1:49:14 PM UTC+8 turmoili...@gmail.com wrote: > hello all > > i wanted to get some opinions on the billie bars - im debating getting > some for a current build with bar-end shifters. i used to ride drop bars, > but making the switch ( i have albatross bars currently) > > curious to know if ppl here ride them/ favorite bike set up with them? > > thanks, > raf > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d91651de-c8ea-4941-b8e8-e8755ef6276en%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
Scott, that is a great looking bike. I like the shifters mounted on the stem. I just got the Billie's for my Cheviot. They are really nice :) On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:23:24 PM UTC-7, scott minor wrote: > > Took some cockpit photos today of billie bars on my chev, thought I’d > share. Stem is 12cm simworks, Silver/IRD stem shifters, Dia-comp brakes. > I’m really enjoying this setup! > > https://flickr.com/photos/147564748@N06/sets/72157698354507761 > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
Took some cockpit photos today of billie bars on my chev, thought I’d share. Stem is 12cm simworks, Silver/IRD stem shifters, Dia-comp brakes. I’m really enjoying this setup! https://flickr.com/photos/147564748@N06/sets/72157698354507761 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
I have bars very similar to the Wavie that came on my Handsome Devil. Mine are pretty wide (60cm?) and they don't come back much at all. With the same stem you are going to be more stretched out on the Wavie compared to the Billie. I would say the Wavie is not much closer than the top part of a noodle bar, but wider to give more control with a front load or in loose stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
I went from albatross to billies on my 60cm chev and now that I’ve ridden it for a couple months (road/path) have to say I prefer the roominess of the billies, and also the more angled hand position when back on the grips. The billies put your hand/wrist less thumb-forward than the albas which works well for my and my fussy AC joints. I also changed the stem from 11cm w albatross to 12cm w billies. I do love albatross bars though, been riding them for more than a decade and will keep that cockpit for another bike someday. I also went from bar-ends on the albas to stem shifters w the billies. A local hunq rider friend likened the stem shifter setup to pre-ripped jeans, haha! too funny. i get it but the cleaner bars and ‘easy enough’ stem-shifting is working for me on this bike. But mostly, being 6’4” (95 pbh) on a 60 chev, I’m enjoying the extra room of the billies! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 2:12:39 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > I would also consider a sweep bar like the Jones (loop or no loop), > MapAhearne or upcoming Wavvie (gravy?) bar. I find that my experience with > the *angle of Albatross grips is not conducive to the control I want when > doing anything but upright cruising*. This might not be your experience > but is worth considering. > > -J > FWIW, the Billie bar has a different grip angle than the Albatross. That does not mean it would work for you. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
Does anybody know when the Wavie Bars will be a realty? They could work too. Thanks for all the suggestions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
I would also consider a sweep bar like the Jones (loop or no loop), MapAhearne or upcoming Wavvie (gravy?) bar. I find that my experience with the angle of Albatross grips is not conducive to the control I want when doing anything but upright cruising. This might not be your experience but is worth considering. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
If you think Albas would work on the Trek ,IMHO, Billie's are an improvement. I have them on a MIT Atlantis and like them a lot. You do get two good hand positions and possibly three. If they don't work on the Trek put them on your Joe. You may need a longer stem with them on the JA. My 2 cents. On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:20:13 PM UTC-4, Ryan M. wrote: > > So, anybody using Billie Bars on their Rivendell, or any other bike, and > would like to give me their impressions? I've used Noodles, Albatross, > original mustache bars, Choco-Moose bars on the Appaloosa, bunch of flat > bars among others. Right now flat bars are giving me a lot of > wrist/thumb/arthritis trouble on my mtbs and on drop bars I rarely actually > use the drop portion so they are almost wasted on me; I do like having > several hand positions though. > > Here's the deal...I got a Trek Crockett frameset sitting in the garage > that I'm going to be building up single speed for after work gravel rides. > The bike will live at my office so I don't have to drag one here everyday. > Of course, traditionally I would be sticking a set of drop bars on it and > calling it good, but I've thought about going with something different and > I would have to get brake levers for drops (I have sweet Paul Comp. flat > bar brake levers already). Thought about flat bars from one of the mtbs I > have laying around and am not using but that wrist thing gets in the way. > Though about something like the Velo Orange Klunker bars, but those might > rise too much for this frame. So, my searching has led me to the Billie > Bars that I didn't know existed until about ten minutes ago. They look > pretty swell, like an upgraded albatross with room in front and behind the > brake levers. I could get a shim so I can run these with a 30.6 stem, which > I have already, and go ride around in total bliss. But, I am not sure I > would like them, hence my asking for impressions and reviews from others. > > thanks! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
I have the Billie bars on my Appaloosa, and really like them for road/town/path riding. That said, if your gravel rides include even slightly technical terrain (or you plan on riding aggressively out of the saddle) I’d highly recommend Albastache bars, which I have run on my sscx bike with great success. The security of the hooks is welcome on technical descents, and the outer handles work great for leverage when climbing out of the saddle. The Billies come back a bit far for this kind of use, imo. If you still want to use flat bar levers, ive heard great things able the Salsa Bend bars in a 20 degree or so sweep. Reid in Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Billie Bars?
ryan, i have these on my sam hillborne & i really like them. an improvement on the albatross, imo. On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:20:13 PM UTC-7, Ryan M. wrote: > > So, anybody using Billie Bars on their Rivendell, or any other bike, and > would like to give me their impressions? I've used Noodles, Albatross, > original mustache bars, Choco-Moose bars on the Appaloosa, bunch of flat > bars among others. Right now flat bars are giving me a lot of > wrist/thumb/arthritis trouble on my mtbs and on drop bars I rarely actually > use the drop portion so they are almost wasted on me; I do like having > several hand positions though. > > Here's the deal...I got a Trek Crockett frameset sitting in the garage > that I'm going to be building up single speed for after work gravel rides. > The bike will live at my office so I don't have to drag one here everyday. > Of course, traditionally I would be sticking a set of drop bars on it and > calling it good, but I've thought about going with something different and > I would have to get brake levers for drops (I have sweet Paul Comp. flat > bar brake levers already). Thought about flat bars from one of the mtbs I > have laying around and am not using but that wrist thing gets in the way. > Though about something like the Velo Orange Klunker bars, but those might > rise too much for this frame. So, my searching has led me to the Billie > Bars that I didn't know existed until about ten minutes ago. They look > pretty swell, like an upgraded albatross with room in front and behind the > brake levers. I could get a shim so I can run these with a 30.6 stem, which > I have already, and go ride around in total bliss. But, I am not sure I > would like them, hence my asking for impressions and reviews from others. > > thanks! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
