[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I'm adding cross levers to the 46cm Noodles on my LongLow, in a transition from the M-bars I've used on that bike for 15 years. For all who ride with cross brake levers on drop bars, what position have you found best for the long run - angled steeply down, or angled up and out? - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
Ironic ending is I decided to go for the interupter levers and the shop I'm working with can't find anything reasonably priced that will work with v-brakes. I mentioned the Tektro RL740 on the Riv site but their distributers don't stock 'em. If I want to later I know that I can order them from Riv and install them myself. Thanks for all the input. Very helpful bunch, this is. Jay On Jul 1, 6:55 pm, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: I bought Forrest's Sam Hillborne and am having it built for commuting in a mix of interurban roads and city traffic and the occasional tour. Coming from a sordid MTB past, I currently commute on an old steel mountain bike with slicks. I ordered the Nitto Noodle bars on faith, never having actually used drop bars before. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to go with cross style interrupter levers either in addition to or instead of the drop bar brake levers for better control in traffic. Or is it just a matter of getting used to the drop bar levers? Thanks, Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 12:00 -0700, Jay wrote: Ironic ending is I decided to go for the interupter levers and the shop I'm working with can't find anything reasonably priced that will work with v-brakes. I mentioned the Tektro RL740 on the Riv site but their distributers don't stock 'em. If I want to later I know that I can order them from Riv and install them myself. The Paul levers fit either road or V brakes. You move the lever to a different pivot point. I suppose there are varying interpretations of whether they're reasonably priced, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I wish I had installed them when putting together my LHT. They seem useful. I still may before touring in Aug. I'm not sure if I'd put them on my Hilsen. If I do get them I'll definitely go with the Salsa ones. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
i'm putting interrupters on my atlantis sometime soon, i can ride anything but would enjoy a mtb style perch on long descents offroad. dropping several thousand feet on a loaded bike is simply easier to do when you can shift your weight back a bit more. seen them, installed them, recommend them. also totally unnecessary. 46cm will work fine. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Mark in Melbourne mbi...@gmail.com wrote: My 46cm Noodles are my first drop bars, installed with Pauls cross top levers. They did ease the transition early with a more familiar flat bar feel, but I ride mostly on the hoods, and after about 6 months, I started ‘emergency braking’ (the brakes you jump too without thinking) on the hoods too. Now, after riding drops for 18 months, I very rarely use the interrupters, and I will take them off next bar tape or cable swap over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
My 46cm Noodles are my first drop bars, installed with Pauls cross top levers. They did ease the transition early with a more familiar flat bar feel, but I ride mostly on the hoods, and after about 6 months, I started ‘emergency braking’ (the brakes you jump too without thinking) on the hoods too. Now, after riding drops for 18 months, I very rarely use the interrupters, and I will take them off next bar tape or cable swap over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I had a Romulus with 46cm Noodles..rode and braked from the hoods most of the time. A newbie to road bars may find the braking from the hoods concept a little intimidating, but it works fine most of the time. I eventually added Tektro cross levers, thinking I would use them when cruising the top of the bar. I didn't like the unstable feel of the levers so close to the centerline of the bike, so mostly transitioned to the hoods for braking. A waste of money/clutter/extra weight for me. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z39zpTt9MroJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I attributed the improvement in feel to the incremental reduction in friction. Similar to the difference between quality cables and housing vs, generic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wVWh8Plt1nwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 17:22 -0700, William wrote: I attributed the improvement in feel to the incremental reduction in friction. Similar to the difference between quality cables and housing vs, generic. Where would that reduction in friction come from? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I can't tell if you are being rhetorical or if you think interrupters are perfectly frictionless and compressionless little miracles. Lever--cable--housing--end ferrule--brake = some friction Lever--cable--housing--end ferrule--interupter--barrel adjuster--end ferrule--more housing--end ferrule--brake = some friction plus a little bit more Plus, there's a little bit of an s-curve the housing gets put through that would be a little bit straighter if there weren't an interrupter there. My point is that interrupters are great for a bike where you are going to enjoy being able to brake from the tops, and that if you determine you don't need them, that there are a few very small benefits to not using them. They are: a little less weight, a little less money, a little cleaner looking bike, a little more room on the tops to attach other things, and a little less compression and friction in the braking system. I use them and like them on some bikes, and don't use them and like not using them on other bikes. That's it and that's all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NIYol9jJ4G0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
Yes, they are cheaper. And they will slow your bike. If pennies are to be pinched, this is a fine place. But I still find the differences between the two to be none too subtle. On Jul 1, 2:33 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I have 46cm Noodles with Tektro interrupter levers on my Alex Moulton AM. Photos here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157624929495699/show/ I also have a couple of bikes with Paul cross levers, which I like a lot. I wouldn't call the Tektros dismal at all. They feel different than the Paul levers, but they work just fine. And they're very cost effective. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I discovered interrupters in 1999 when I set up a cross bike for myself. It was kind of an epiphany for me. I started setting them up on every bike of mine. They just made sense to me. The reverse epiphany happened last summer at Riv HQ. I was test riding a Hunqapillar with Noodles and SRAM 500 levers without interrupters. The action on those levers was so pure and clean, I knew I wanted to reproduce it. I put those SRAM lever on my Bombadil when I set up a drop bar cockpit, and it's awesome. I then removed the interrupters on my go-fast, and radically improved the feel of the brakelevers. So for me there was a trade-off. Interrupters were light, cheap, and made sense, but no interrupters is light-er and cheap-er, and my drop bar levers feel a lot better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/x-cbuaK3OkIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 14:37 -0700, William wrote: I discovered interrupters in 1999 when I set up a cross bike for myself. It was kind of an epiphany for me. I started setting them up on every bike of mine. They just made sense to me. The reverse epiphany happened last summer at Riv HQ. I was test riding a Hunqapillar with Noodles and SRAM 500 levers without interrupters. The action on those levers was so pure and clean, I knew I wanted to reproduce it. I put those SRAM lever on my Bombadil when I set up a drop bar cockpit, and it's awesome. I then removed the interrupters on my go-fast, and radically improved the feel of the brakelevers. So for me there was a trade-off. Interrupters were light, cheap, and made sense, but no interrupters is light-er and cheap-er, and my drop bar levers feel a lot better. I don't understand how the feel of the brake lever would be any different with or without the presence of interrupter levers. Nor do I note any difference in lever feel between the various bikes I have with and without interrupter levers, all of which have the exact same brake levers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
Personally I would learn to get use to it. But if you need the security go for it. The 46 bars have a lot of space. And get the interruptors with split lamps. Then you can take them off laterbwith minimal fuss. I had no issue adjusting to drops. The noodle also feels funny at first but hang in the wide bars ate great. On Jul 1, 11:55 am, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: I bought Forrest's Sam Hillborne and am having it built for commuting in a mix of interurban roads and city traffic and the occasional tour. Coming from a sordid MTB past, I currently commute on an old steel mountain bike with slicks. I ordered the Nitto Noodle bars on faith, never having actually used drop bars before. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to go with cross style interrupter levers either in addition to or instead of the drop bar brake levers for better control in traffic. Or is it just a matter of getting used to the drop bar levers? Thanks, Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 14:13 -0700, E.B. wrote: Adding interrupter levers gives you immediate access to the brakes while riding on the tops. This riding position puts you more upright, which in turn improves your sightline while commuting in traffic. I have interrupters on 46cm Noodles. Some might say they clutter the bar, add weight or complicate using a h-bar bag. I somewhat agree, but I still like mine. By the way, mine are Salsa Halter Top levers: beautifully made, comfortable in the hand, excellent braking modulation, and they match my Noodled Riv perfectly. While I haven't used the Paul Component cross lever, the others I've tried (Tektro/CC) were dismal in comparison. The Salsas are a bit pricey, however. I have 46cm Noodles with Tektro interrupter levers on my Alex Moulton AM. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157624929495699/show/ I also have a couple of bikes with Paul cross levers, which I like a lot. I wouldn't call the Tektros dismal at all. They feel different than the Paul levers, but they work just fine. And they're very cost effective. Incidentally, the two bikes (soon to be 3) with the Paul interrupter levers both have handlebar bags. I like the levers vertical under the handlebar, and in that position there's plenty of room behind the bag for the lever. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157606169015639/show/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157603355855778/show/ Both those bikes have 44 cm Nitto 176 Dream bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
+1 on the opinion that interrupters are a nice to have complement to drop bar levers, but not a substitute for them. I only have them on one bike, my 56cm Hillborne with 46cm Noodles :) on my other bikes, I don't run them because they'd get in the way of my handlebar bag. Because of that, I've gotten accustomed to not using them as much. I don't find myself reaching for them. For sure my Hillborne is the easiest of my bikes to ride while drinking coffee, with brakes on the tops. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XMCuJeLK0p4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I've found I really love interrupters. They're one of the few actual bike component improvements in the last decade that really do something useful. Simple, cheap, lightweight, unobtrusive (mostly). Great upgrade IMHO. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:23 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the opinion that interrupters are a nice to have complement to drop bar levers, but not a substitute for them. I only have them on one bike, my 56cm Hillborne with 46cm Noodles :) on my other bikes, I don't run them because they'd get in the way of my handlebar bag. Because of that, I've gotten accustomed to not using them as much. I don't find myself reaching for them. For sure my Hillborne is the easiest of my bikes to ride while drinking coffee, with brakes on the tops. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XMCuJeLK0p4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
Back when I was a kid riding a 10-speed (before mountain bikes had supplanted them as the 'standard' bicycle), they had these funky brakes that not only had the levers for the drops, but from out of the inside of the hoods was an L-lever, so that you could brake from the flats. Wasn't the greatest functioning thing, but, I used them a lot. You didn't ride the hoods, it was either in the drops or up top.Then I changed over to a mountain bike, and hadn't rode a road bike for ages. When I first started riding a road bike again, I was a bit caught off guard w/ people riding the hoods. And not having brakes on the flats. But when I found cross-levers, it added back in the old L lever, but in a much more functional effective way. I'm not as flexible as I used to be. I used to drop into the drops all the time, even just zipping around the neighborhood. Now, on a road ride, I've gotten used to the hoods, and will drop to the drops if riding into the wind, but otherwise am usually on the hoods, or back on the flats. When I'm not on a road, but on a combination walking/biking trail, needing to negotiate around pedestrians or on a mixed surface, I am usually up on the flats instead. Interrupter levers are a very welcome addition in those circumstances. If I was building a strict road bike (like a Roadeo), for club-riding only, I might forego them. Or, if I had a handlebar bag, I can see them getting in the way, but as I don't, that's not an issue. I'm not a weight-weenie, but, that's about the biggest downside for me to having them (and isn't really a problem at all); if you were spending money to move from an Ultegra to a Dura Ace setup to drop a few ounces, then you might not want to add them (but, you'd probably not be on a Rivendell then?). But, we're riding Rivendells, hopefully we have a like of practicality. They offer an additional hand-position, that is especially nice on Noodles (I use 48cm bars, FWIW). I find that my most common relaxed cruising position is back at the corner of the bars, where I can slip over onto the interrupter levers quickly. IMHO, FWIW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KSn9AIXIIFoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?
I have interrupters on all of my three bikes and I use them 3/4 of the time because I use the hoods most of the time. I also use handlebar bags on all my bikes and the levers aren't really in the way. I would go so far as to say that having only the standard levers in the drops would be awkward and perhaps unsafe for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
