[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
Manny, you can't give it 100% approval. There are no panda shots in the whole group! Eric, congrats. I bet the weather was perfecto. On May 16, 7:59 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Crazy 202 miles! Great Job On May 16, 7:55 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Yes, different group for the most part. A double is viewed as more of a sprint--get a fast bike and finish as quickly as possible. I rode my Sachs mostly because it doesn't get ridden enough. --Eric Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2010, at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Eric, the bikes on this ride appear much different than the bikes on brevets. Many more low spoke and crabon bikes than the steel and generator set up, at least to my untrained eye. Is that just because it's considered short or does it attract a different crowd (or both)? Is there much overlap of the two groups, or do the species not typically intermingle. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
On May 16, 8:03 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --- My 27th Davis Double, and it turned out to be a fine day. --- Holy smokes. Is it held 3 times a year??!! Congratulations! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
On May 16, 11:53 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Rides like the Davis Double are fully supported, no need to carry more food or water than needed to get to the next rest stop. Brevets are self-supported, so randonneurs tend to carry more baggage, and their bikes are built up accordingly. well, yes and no. no? on a nice day, there's not much reason to carry baggage on a 200-300k brevet. distance between controls in my region are typically 40 miles on average, and most riders choose to refuel at the controls rather than carry their own food. it's really not much different than a supported ride. accordingly, most folks are on road bikes with bike jerseys and a small seatpouch to carry what they need. i start to notice more rando bikes (i.e., road bikes w/ bags, maybe fenders) on distances of 400k+. or, of course, if it's raining or there is some other weather to contend with. but even on a 600k, one might have the advantage of using a drop bag, so you don't have to carry *that* much. a big handlebar bag or medium saddlebag should cover it. that said, I couldn't believe how little some folks were carrying on the PA 1200k (which I DNF'd) - no bags at all. and it was cold and wet. and they finished. anyway, there's also the event attitude that Esteban seems to be referring to - the triple crown series sounds like it brings out a different type of rider than a brevet series. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
Crazy 202 miles! Great Job On May 16, 7:55 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Yes, different group for the most part. A double is viewed as more of a sprint--get a fast bike and finish as quickly as possible. I rode my Sachs mostly because it doesn't get ridden enough. --Eric Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2010, at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Eric, the bikes on this ride appear much different than the bikes on brevets. Many more low spoke and crabon bikes than the steel and generator set up, at least to my untrained eye. Is that just because it's considered short or does it attract a different crowd (or both)? Is there much overlap of the two groups, or do the species not typically intermingle. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
Yea, I've found that triple crown events are more racey than randonneuring. Times are more generous in brevets. Great work, Eric! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On May 16, 7:59 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Crazy 202 miles! Great Job On May 16, 7:55 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Yes, different group for the most part. A double is viewed as more of a sprint--get a fast bike and finish as quickly as possible. I rode my Sachs mostly because it doesn't get ridden enough. --Eric Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2010, at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Eric, the bikes on this ride appear much different than the bikes on brevets. Many more low spoke and crabon bikes than the steel and generator set up, at least to my untrained eye. Is that just because it's considered short or does it attract a different crowd (or both)? Is there much overlap of the two groups, or do the species not typically intermingle. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
Rides like the Davis Double are fully supported, no need to carry more food or water than needed to get to the next rest stop. Brevets are self-supported, so randonneurs tend to carry more baggage, and their bikes are built up accordingly. Bill, who rode the Davis Double in 1989, and is FAR from DC shape these days. On May 16, 7:51 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Eric, the bikes on this ride appear much different than the bikes on brevets. Many more low spoke and crabon bikes than the steel and generator set up, at least to my untrained eye. Is that just because it's considered short or does it attract a different crowd (or both)? Is there much overlap of the two groups, or do the species not typically intermingle. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
Very interesting... I observed the difference, nice to know! On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Rides like the Davis Double are fully supported, no need to carry more food or water than needed to get to the next rest stop. Brevets are self-supported, so randonneurs tend to carry more baggage, and their bikes are built up accordingly. Bill, who rode the Davis Double in 1989, and is FAR from DC shape these days. On May 16, 7:51 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Eric, the bikes on this ride appear much different than the bikes on brevets. Many more low spoke and crabon bikes than the steel and generator set up, at least to my untrained eye. Is that just because it's considered short or does it attract a different crowd (or both)? Is there much overlap of the two groups, or do the species not typically intermingle. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
