Re: [RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[cyclotourist]

That's great, way to keep it in the family!

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Wildcat96  wrote:

> Trade pending on a sweet Bombadil.
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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[dougP]

Zach:

Congratulations!  You're gonna love the Atlantis.  Here's a link to the 
iBOB site where a guy has a set of 26" wheels:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/internet-bob/ZyXsk4GjaYE

It's a 5 speed FW though.

dougP

On Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:47:28 PM UTC-8, Z wrote:
>
> Proud owner of the new 56 cm *Rivendell* Atlantis right here!  Thanks to 
> Mr. Wildcat.  May the trusty Bombadil carry you to at least as many 
> beautiful places as it did me.
>
> Zach
>
> P.S.  Anyone got 26" wheels lying around???
>
> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:43:03 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Excellent news!  Congatulations.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
>>> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
>>> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
>>> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
>>> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
>>> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
>>> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
>>> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
>>> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
>>> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Z]

Proud owner of the new 56 cm *Rivendell* Atlantis right here!  Thanks to 
Mr. Wildcat.  May the trusty Bombadil carry you to at least as many 
beautiful places as it did me.

Zach

P.S.  Anyone got 26" wheels lying around???

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:43:03 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> Excellent news!  Congatulations.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
>> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
>> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
>> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
>> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
>> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
>> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
>> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
>> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
>> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[dougP]

Excellent news!  Congatulations.  

dougP

On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
>
> 
> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Trade pending on a sweet Bombadil.

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Evan]

Hi All,

If Gabe's awesome used 58 Atlantis can sell, I hope this awesome new 56 
Atlantis can also find a home here. I don't know Wildcat or anything; I 
just hate to see an Atlantis go unclaimed. Hence this bump!

Evan E.
SF, CA



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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

You make a valid point Grant.  I think a "USA-built Atlantis" is a more 
fair description and I'll try to refer to it that way in the future.  It is 
my understanding that the "Japan-built Atlantis" is every bit as good and I 
am sure I would be every bit as happy with one, as long as it fits me.  
I love my Sam and it's quality is certainly up there with the Atlantis.  
Thank you and the folks at Rivendell for designing such great bikes, no 
matter where they are built!

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:56:59 AM UTC-6, Grant Petersen wrote:
>
> Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our 
> hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some 
> models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came 
> from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here. 
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
>> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
>> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
>> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
>> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
>> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
>> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
>> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
>> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
>> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Grant Petersen]

Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our 
hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some 
models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came 
from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here. 

On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
>
> 
> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Unfortunately, I think the 54 San Marcos would be too big.  I rode a 51 and 
it fit perfectly.

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:59:47 AM UTC-6, Rob H. wrote:
>
> Wildcat, would a NIB 54cm Soma San Marcos + cash interest you? It's the 
> original, icy Pearl Blue color. The SO is ~81cm. I have a PBH of 85cm and 
> found the 59cm too high. Are you in the Bay Area?
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:59:24 AM UTC-8, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>
>> One last shot before I take my chances on eBay.  $1650 plus shipping.  I 
>> just need something that fits me a little better so trades are also 
>> welcome.  Take a look at the pics on my Flickr page.  It's a beautiful 
>> frame.  I almost want to just hang it on the wall as a piece of art!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Rob H.]

Wildcat, would a NIB 54cm Soma San Marcos + cash interest you? It's the 
original, icy Pearl Blue color. The SO is ~81cm. I have a PBH of 85cm and 
found the 59cm too high. Are you in the Bay Area?

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:59:24 AM UTC-8, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
> One last shot before I take my chances on eBay.  $1650 plus shipping.  I 
> just need something that fits me a little better so trades are also 
> welcome.  Take a look at the pics on my Flickr page.  It's a beautiful 
> frame.  I almost want to just hang it on the wall as a piece of art!

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

One last shot before I take my chances on eBay.  $1650 plus shipping.  I just 
need something that fits me a little better so trades are also welcome.  Take a 
look at the pics on my Flickr page.  It's a beautiful frame.  I almost want to 
just hang it on the wall as a piece of art!

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

>
> Here is a link to my flickr page with some better pics.   $1700 plus 
> shipping or open to trades.


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/101678932@N02/sets/72157649239684321/

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Deacon Patrick]

Yes, I'm close to zero standover on my Quickbeam. My shoes aren't thicker 
than socks, but I measured by PBH barefoot, so there is a mew extra mm in 
there. Never once squashed the berries. The Hunqapiller has a bit more 
room, but only closer to the seat post, as it has more top tube slope. 
Having ridden less bike, I much prefer more bike.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 4:20:04 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
> Deacon, so it sounds like you have 0 standover on the Quickbeam?  That's 
> where I'm at on the 56cm Atlantis.   I can straddle the top tube with both 
> feet flat on the ground with my shoes, not so much in socks.  I recently 
> slid forward off the saddle for the first time riding some rough terrain on 
> the 51cm Sam Hillborne and was happy to have that extra 3cm of clearance.  
> That is my biggest hang up with the Atlantis, but maybe I can live with 
> it. Sounds like you ride the rough stuff and have had no problems. I know 
> it fits me comfortably horizontally with the Albatross bars and may even 
> work with my drop bars and a 7cm stem.  I would have about 3.5 fingers of 
> seatpost showing on the 56.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/06/2014 06:20 PM, Wildcat96 wrote:
Deacon, so it sounds like you have 0 standover on the Quickbeam?  
That's where I'm at on the 56cm Atlantis.   I can straddle the top 
tube with both feet flat on the ground with my shoes, not so much in 
socks. 


Do you ride much in your socks?


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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Deacon, so it sounds like you have 0 standover on the Quickbeam?  That's 
where I'm at on the 56cm Atlantis.   I can straddle the top tube with both 
feet flat on the ground with my shoes, not so much in socks.  I recently 
slid forward off the saddle for the first time riding some rough terrain on 
the 51cm Sam Hillborne and was happy to have that extra 3cm of clearance.  
That is my biggest hang up with the Atlantis, but maybe I can live with 
it. Sounds like you ride the rough stuff and have had no problems. I know 
it fits me comfortably horizontally with the Albatross bars and may even 
work with my drop bars and a 7cm stem.  I would have about 3.5 fingers of 
seatpost showing on the 56.

On Monday, October 27, 2014 7:00:17 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Wildcat, in my experience Rivendell won't steer you wrong regarding 
> sizing. The "safest" sizing is what you describe. That doesn't mean the 56 
> won't work for you. A shorter reach stem and you could easily be in 
> business and amazingly comfortable.
>
> I have a PBH of 90 cm and ride a 66 Quickbeam. 62 cm is the size Rivendell 
> would steer me toward, but I absolutely love my 66. I take it on single 
> track all the time, which conventional wisdom says not to do unless your 
> frame is smaller. Never had an issue.
>
> You milage may vary, but it may well be worth trying what you have to see 
> how it works. Take a closer look at the geometry charts. Compare actual TT 
> length to something you ride and enjoy. between adjusting the saddle and 
> stem, can you make it what you want?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

$1725 plus shipping or make me a reasonable offer.  I am also still open to 
trades for anything my size (80-81 pbh).

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Also, would you consider trading your complete bike, if so could you PM me the 
build?

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Donald could you PM me some detailed pics of your frame?  I might consider the 
trade plus a fair difference for the upgrade to new.

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Donald Innis]

On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:39:17 AM UTC-4, Wildcat96 wrote:
> Okay, one more price adjustment, before I decide to just build it up for 
> myself.  $1750 plus shipping and the advantage of not having to wait 3 months 
> for Waterford to build it.

I have a 53 atlantis that I always thought was a bit to small and I wanted to 
try a54.5 or a 56
But my frame is an older one with a few scrapes and scratches I think the build 
was around 1999 or 2000 I have PBh of 83

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Okay, one more price adjustment, before I decide to just build it up for 
myself.  $1750 plus shipping and the advantage of not having to wait 3 months 
for Waterford to build it.

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Minh]

Hmm so i spend too  much time looking at geo-charts too.  Are you worried 
about the TT length or the stand-over?  I think SO is over-blown but it 
depends on how you want to use it.  

good luck with the sale otherwise, it's borderline too small for me :)

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Deacon Patrick]

Wildcat, in my experience Rivendell won't steer you wrong regarding sizing. 
The "safest" sizing is what you describe. That doesn't mean the 56 won't 
work for you. A shorter reach stem and you could easily be in business and 
amazingly comfortable.

I have a PBH of 90 cm and ride a 66 Quickbeam. 62 cm is the size Rivendell 
would steer me toward, but I absolutely love my 66. I take it on single 
track all the time, which conventional wisdom says not to do unless your 
frame is smaller. Never had an issue.

You milage may vary, but it may well be worth trying what you have to see 
how it works. Take a closer look at the geometry charts. Compare actual TT 
length to something you ride and enjoy. between adjusting the saddle and 
stem, can you make it what you want?

With abandon,
Patrick

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