Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-28 Thread Tom Horton 
Don t recall shimming  my ortleibs rode pretty rattle free and never jumped off

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:16 AM, john Bokman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tom. I don’t think measuring is necessary.. And thanks to Craig for 
> all the fantastic pictures!
> 
> I’m surprised the Rim website claims the 34F to be recommended for no more 
> than 30# loads. I know they are being conservative, but still…If you look at 
> t similar looking rack, like Surly’s big Front rack, it claims to hold 70# - 
> which I’d not want to carry!
> 
> One attribute the 34F has going for it, in my opinion, is the nice big 
> platform on which to strap things. I really appreciate the ability to lash 
> something to the top while still being able to carry bags down below.
> 
> I think I remember that the tubing used for the 34F is 9mm thick? Did you 
> have to shim the hooks on your panniers  to make them snug? My panniers have 
> hooks for either 8mm or 10mm rails.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Tom Horton  wrote:
>> 
>> John  all i ever used were ortleibs panniers  i have a set of smaller 
>> ortleibs and larger ones
>> 
>> Both mounted fine on the nitto front rack
>> 
>> Not sure the triangles will get in yr way  a pretty big rack  be glad to 
>> measure it if you want
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:14 PM, John Bokman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
>>> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
>>> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
>>> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
>>> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
>>> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's 
>>> not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it 
>>> can accept my panniers.
 On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
 used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of 
 wald baskets and not going back.
 
 it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in the 
 baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
 
 you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
 
 and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 60mm 
   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
 
 the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
 easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
 included.
 
 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-28 Thread john Bokman 
Thanks Tom. I don’t think measuring is necessary.. And thanks to Craig for all 
the fantastic pictures!

I’m surprised the Rim website claims the 34F to be recommended for no more than 
30# loads. I know they are being conservative, but still…If you look at t 
similar looking rack, like Surly’s big Front rack, it claims to hold 70# - 
which I’d not want to carry!

One attribute the 34F has going for it, in my opinion, is the nice big platform 
on which to strap things. I really appreciate the ability to lash something to 
the top while still being able to carry bags down below.

I think I remember that the tubing used for the 34F is 9mm thick? Did you have 
to shim the hooks on your panniers  to make them snug? My panniers have hooks 
for either 8mm or 10mm rails.


> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Tom Horton  wrote:
> 
> John  all i ever used were ortleibs panniers  i have a set of smaller 
> ortleibs and larger ones
> 
> Both mounted fine on the nitto front rack
> 
> Not sure the triangles will get in yr way  a pretty big rack  be glad to 
> measure it if you want
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:14 PM, John Bokman  > wrote:
> 
>> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
>> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
>> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
>> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
>> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
>> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's not 
>> so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it can 
>> accept my panniers.
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>> used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of wald 
>> baskets and not going back.
>> 
>> it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in the 
>> baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
>> 
>> you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
>> 
>> and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 60mm   
>> make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
>> 
>> the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
>> easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
>> included.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-27 Thread Tom Horton 
John  all i ever used were ortleibs panniers  i have a set of smaller ortleibs 
and larger ones

Both mounted fine on the nitto front rack

Not sure the triangles will get in yr way  a pretty big rack  be glad to 
measure it if you want

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 6:14 PM, John Bokman  wrote:
> 
> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't adjust 
> the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's not 
> so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it can 
> accept my panniers.
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>> used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of wald 
>> baskets and not going back.
>> 
>> it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in the 
>> baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
>> 
>> you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
>> 
>> and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 60mm   
>> make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
>> 
>> the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
>> easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
>> included.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-27 Thread Friend 
I can't believe this rack is still available!  It seems like a steal.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 9:37:40 PM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> Primarily I use Carradice Super C fronts. I've used Karrimors which you 
> probably won't find. Have a wonderful set of Beckman's but you won't find 
> those either unless you're lucky. Jandd Mountain and Standard front 
> panniers. The Mountain panniers are small. The Standards are pretty big but 
> sloppy if you don't fill them.  You really gotta stuff 'em. The Super C's 
> are a wee bit small too, larger than the Jandd's MTB's I believe. Your 
> choice of panniers depend on what and how you pack your bike and where 
> you're going and how long you'll be out. With gargantuan racks like these 
> I'm assuming you're doing a 50/50 or 40/60 distribution. Oh yea I've also 
> used Ostrich. They are strapped on not hooked but in coolness they can't be 
> beat.  
>
> Super C's mounted:
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/43049824851
>
> Jandd MTB front panniers mounted: 
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/29460145875
>
> Standard Jandd fronts on the Riv AR on the right and old style Carradice 
> fronts on the Riv AR on the left. Both racks 34F's: 
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/17343692521
>
> Some full sized rear Karrimors used on a 34F: 
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/16055961218
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:08:44 PM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> Any advice on panniers for the big Nitto racks would be appreciate. I 
>> have a bunch but have found fit to be a issue with some. 
>>
>> John 
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 6:14 PM John Bokman  wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
>>> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
>>> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
>>> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
>>> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
>>> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's 
>>> not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it 
>>> can accept my panniers.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:

 used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of 
 wald baskets and not going back.

 it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in 
 the baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.

 you can see the exact rack on riv's website.

 and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 
 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.

 the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
 easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
 included.


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-27 Thread Craig Montgomery 
Primarily I use Carradice Super C fronts. I've used Karrimors which you 
probably won't find. Have a wonderful set of Beckman's but you won't find 
those either unless you're lucky. Jandd Mountain and Standard front 
panniers. The Mountain panniers are small. The Standards are pretty big but 
sloppy if you don't fill them.  You really gotta stuff 'em. The Super C's 
are a wee bit small too, larger than the Jandd's MTB's I believe. Your 
choice of panniers depend on what and how you pack your bike and where 
you're going and how long you'll be out. With gargantuan racks like these 
I'm assuming you're doing a 50/50 or 40/60 distribution. Oh yea I've also 
used Ostrich. They are strapped on not hooked but in coolness they can't be 
beat.  

Super C's mounted:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/43049824851

Jandd MTB front panniers mounted: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/29460145875

Standard Jandd fronts on the Riv AR on the right and old style Carradice 
fronts on the Riv AR on the left. Both racks 34F's: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/17343692521

Some full sized rear Karrimors used on a 34F: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/16055961218

Craig in Tucson

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:08:44 PM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>
> Any advice on panniers for the big Nitto racks would be appreciate. I have 
> a bunch but have found fit to be a issue with some. 
>
> John 
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 6:14 PM John Bokman  > wrote:
>
>> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
>> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
>> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
>> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
>> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
>> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's 
>> not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it 
>> can accept my panniers.
>>
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>>>
>>> used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of 
>>> wald baskets and not going back.
>>>
>>> it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in 
>>> the baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
>>>
>>> you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
>>>
>>> and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 
>>> 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
>>>
>>> the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
>>> easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
>>> included.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-27 Thread DarinM 
I have happily used Carradice Super C front panniers on my 34F. If I 
remember correctly, one of the hooks locked into the triangulated section 
in the front of the rack.

Darin

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 5:08:44 PM UTC-8, John McBurney wrote:
>
> Any advice on panniers for the big Nitto racks would be appreciate. I have 
> a bunch but have found fit to be a issue with some. 
>
> John 
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 6:14 PM John Bokman  > wrote:
>
>> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
>> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
>> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
>> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
>> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
>> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's 
>> not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it 
>> can accept my panniers.
>>
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>>>
>>> used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of 
>>> wald baskets and not going back.
>>>
>>> it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in 
>>> the baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
>>>
>>> you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
>>>
>>> and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 
>>> 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
>>>
>>> the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
>>> easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
>>> included.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-27 Thread John McBurney 
Any advice on panniers for the big Nitto racks would be appreciate. I have
a bunch but have found fit to be a issue with some.

John

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 6:14 PM John Bokman  wrote:

> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added
> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't
> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such.
> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's
> not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it
> can accept my panniers.
>
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>>
>> used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of
>> wald baskets and not going back.
>>
>> it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in
>> the baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
>>
>> you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
>>
>> and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds
>> 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
>>
>> the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit
>> easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but
>> included.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-27 Thread John Bokman 
Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's 
not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it 
can accept my panniers.
On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>
> used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of 
> wald baskets and not going back.
>
> it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in the 
> baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.
>
> you can see the exact rack on riv's website.
>
> and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 
> 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.
>
> the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
> easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
> included.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

2019-02-25 Thread Tom Wyland 
OK, so I have to ask what's your current setup to support the basket?  

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