Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-28 Thread Patrick Moore
And the fenders were SKS; Honjos or VOs would have given a bit more room.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> That depend on the model. My blue Ram took 1.35” — 32 mm actual — tires 
> under fenders. Close fit but entirely acceptable; no rubbing or other 
> problems. 29 mm Paris Roubaix tires had very ample clearance.
> 
> Patrick Moore
> iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 1:10 PM, RICHARD BORNEMAN  wrote:
>>> 
>>  I have 700x28 tires under my fenders. Tried Jack Brown 33’s but too tight. 
>> I think 28’s are the biggest tire that will fit with fenders. 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jon, 
>>> 
>>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
>>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
>>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 
>>>> Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>> 
>>>> Jon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Joe Bernard 
>>>> Date: 10/18/22 12:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller
>>>> 
>>>> SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on 
>>>> my Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 
>>>> 
>>>> https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE
>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>>> I am looking to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size 
>>>>> fits this frame?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the assist! 
>>>>> Jon
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139AE62B4D1C83B5F55EB52BA289%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/05514EB3-D061-45DC-9F81-A66481BC8BC7%40gmail.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-28 Thread Patrick Moore
That depend on the model. My blue Ram took 1.35” — 32 mm actual — tires under 
fenders. Close fit but entirely acceptable; no rubbing or other problems. 29 mm 
Paris Roubaix tires had very ample clearance.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2022, at 1:10 PM, RICHARD BORNEMAN  wrote:
> 
>  I have 700x28 tires under my fenders. Tried Jack Brown 33’s but too tight. 
> I think 28’s are the biggest tire that will fit with fenders. 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> Jon, 
>> 
>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire combination 
>> like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a bike-stopping branch 
>> to get stuck in there. 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 
>>> Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Joe Bernard 
>>> Date: 10/18/22 12:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller
>>> 
>>> SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on my 
>>> Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 
>>> 
>>> https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE
>>> 
>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>> I am looking to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size 
>>>> fits this frame?  
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the assist! 
>>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com.
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139AE62B4D1C83B5F55EB52BA289%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/E68F1F3E-B8BA-4C71-B969-C595EE1F9F11%40gmail.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-24 Thread MoVelo
@Jon-the clearance for true 650x42s is about 3mm. I say true because my 
experience with three different brands has yielded two different widths. 
Rene Herse 650x42s actually measure 40mm in width while both Panaracer Pari 
Motos and Gravel Kings measure a true 42mm, all on Velocity A23's. 

Obviously the Rene Herse will give you close to 5mm clearance which to many 
is better. I prefer the 5 mm clearance myself but really like the 
Pari-Motos. I currently am running the Herse's on another bike, and since 
the clearance issues are with the chain stays and not the front fork, I may 
trying running the Pari-Motos on the front of both bikes and the Horses on 
the rear. 

You would not expect a 2mm width difference to matter much but it does add 
just a bit extra cush and on gravel adds additional stability and 
confidence.

Also, a part of the discussion for your consideration should be brakes. 
There has been a lot of discussion on this, bob and 650b groups about the 
lack of stopping power of Tektro 559s, particularly when the brake shoes 
are at the end of the slot as is required for 650b conversion. I have not 
personally experienced lack of stopping power. I try to avoid riding in the 
rain, do not have long decents and perhaps my big mitts are strong enough 
to compensate for the lack of leverage. YMMV.



On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:32:05 AM UTC-5 Will M wrote:

> @Jon: I see you've had some good info about maximum fender/tire 
> clearances. For what it's worth, I ran my Ram 
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/36185050466/in/album-72157626161174071/>
>  
> 100% on paved roads with the standard Rivendell Roll-y Pol-y 700x28c tires 
> and SKS P35 fenders (which max out at 28mm tires?).  Worked great with 
> Ultegra side-pull brakes.
>
> Will M
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:03:55 PM UTC-4 Jon Richardson wrote:
>
>> JP - I have wondered about having this setup as a 650b ride.  To hear how 
>> you made this a convertible is very intriguing!  I have mostly race type 
>> road bikes and am moving into a more useful all-round bike as I have had 
>> too many injuries.
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: MoVelo  
>> Date: 10/20/22 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: RBW Owners Bunch  
>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>
>> Im running 50mm SKS plastic fenders on my Ramboulliet when it's in fender 
>> mode. I switch back and forth between 700x32s and 650Bx42s so it's good to 
>> have a fender wide enough for both of those.
>>
>> It works really well given the location of the brake bridge in back and 
>> fork crown in front. Using Tektro 559s I simply slide the brake shoes to 
>> the bottom of the slot for 650B and then at the top of the slot for 700c. I 
>> did have to file the rear brake slot a bit to get the brake shoe low 
>> enough. 
>>
>> It's almost as simple and operation as with disc brakes. Takes me maybe 
>> 20 mins to make the switch.
>>
>> I can't think of a more versatile bike than this Rambo.
>>
>> JP
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 1:27:47 PM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> I finally settled on RH stampede Pass tires on Velocity Synergy rims 
>>> under Honjo H-45 fenders and Paul center mount Racer brakes. Been riding 
>>> that Rambouillet on all roads that way for years. 
>>> Fendered '02 Rambouillet on 700x32 
>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/7aUx9ZUx1iGtgsCM9>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:20:13 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> IF you can get those wider fenders inside those brakes. My memory of 
>>>> messing with this on my Romulus is pretty vague now but it wasn't the 
>>>> easiest project I've ever embarked on. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Peter!  
>>>>>
>>>>> Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if 
>>>>> they are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack 
>>>>> Browns are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Original message 
>>>>> From: Peter White  
>>>>> Date: 10/18/22 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm firmly in Joe's camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are 
>>>>&

Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-21 Thread Will M
@Jon: I see you've had some good info about maximum fender/tire clearances. 
For what it's worth, I ran my Ram 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/36185050466/in/album-72157626161174071/>
 
100% on paved roads with the standard Rivendell Roll-y Pol-y 700x28c tires 
and SKS P35 fenders (which max out at 28mm tires?).  Worked great with 
Ultegra side-pull brakes.

Will M

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:03:55 PM UTC-4 Jon Richardson wrote:

> JP - I have wondered about having this setup as a 650b ride.  To hear how 
> you made this a convertible is very intriguing!  I have mostly race type 
> road bikes and am moving into a more useful all-round bike as I have had 
> too many injuries.
>
>  Original message 
> From: MoVelo  
> Date: 10/20/22 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch  
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>
> Im running 50mm SKS plastic fenders on my Ramboulliet when it's in fender 
> mode. I switch back and forth between 700x32s and 650Bx42s so it's good to 
> have a fender wide enough for both of those.
>
> It works really well given the location of the brake bridge in back and 
> fork crown in front. Using Tektro 559s I simply slide the brake shoes to 
> the bottom of the slot for 650B and then at the top of the slot for 700c. I 
> did have to file the rear brake slot a bit to get the brake shoe low 
> enough. 
>
> It's almost as simple and operation as with disc brakes. Takes me maybe 20 
> mins to make the switch.
>
> I can't think of a more versatile bike than this Rambo.
>
> JP
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 1:27:47 PM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I finally settled on RH stampede Pass tires on Velocity Synergy rims 
>> under Honjo H-45 fenders and Paul center mount Racer brakes. Been riding 
>> that Rambouillet on all roads that way for years. 
>> Fendered '02 Rambouillet on 700x32 
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/7aUx9ZUx1iGtgsCM9>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:20:13 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> IF you can get those wider fenders inside those brakes. My memory of 
>>> messing with this on my Romulus is pretty vague now but it wasn't the 
>>> easiest project I've ever embarked on. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Peter!  
>>>>
>>>> Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if 
>>>> they are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack 
>>>> Browns are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
>>>>
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Peter White  
>>>> Date: 10/18/22 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>>>
>>>> I'm firmly in Joe's camp.
>>>>
>>>> I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are 
>>>> labelled 27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, 
>>>> only 25mm wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would not 
>>>> recommend anything wider than these tires with any fender on the 
>>>> Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were 
>>>> my 
>>>> bad weather bike, I'd be using the same tires but with the 41mm 
>>>> Stronglight 
>>>> anodized aluminum fenders.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Jon White
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jon, 
>>>>>
>>>>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>>>>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
>>>>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
>>>>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 
>>>>>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-20 Thread jonrich55
JP - I have wondered about having this setup as a 650b ride.  To hear how you 
made this a convertible is very intriguing!  I have mostly race type road bikes 
and am moving into a more useful all-round bike as I have had too many injuries.
 Original message From: MoVelo  Date: 
10/20/22  1:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch 
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a 
Rambouiller Im running 50mm SKS plastic fenders on my Ramboulliet when it's in 
fender mode. I switch back and forth between 700x32s and 650Bx42s so it's good 
to have a fender wide enough for both of those.It works really well given the 
location of the brake bridge in back and fork crown in front. Using Tektro 559s 
I simply slide the brake shoes to the bottom of the slot for 650B and then at 
the top of the slot for 700c. I did have to file the rear brake slot a bit to 
get the brake shoe low enough. It's almost as simple and operation as with disc 
brakes. Takes me maybe 20 mins to make the switch.I can't think of a more 
versatile bike than this Rambo.JPOn Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 1:27:47 PM 
UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:I finally settled on RH stampede Pass tires on Velocity 
Synergy rims under Honjo H-45 fenders and Paul center mount Racer brakes. Been 
riding that Rambouillet on all roads that way for years. Fendered '02 
Rambouillet on 700x32Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 
8:20:13 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:IF you can get those wider fenders inside 
those brakes. My memory of messing with this on my Romulus is pretty vague now 
but it wasn't the easiest project I've ever embarked on. On Tuesday, October 
18, 2022 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:Thanks, Peter!  Appreciate 
everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if they are true to 
size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack Browns are nice 
weather gravel for the Ram. Original message From: Peter White 
 Date: 10/18/22  3:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a 
Rambouiller I'm firmly in Joe's camp.I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my 
Rambouillet. They are labelled 27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud 
carbon fiber, only 25mm wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would 
not recommend anything wider than these tires with any fender on the 
Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were my bad 
weather bike, I'd be using the same tires but with the 41mm Stronglight 
anodized aluminum fenders.Peter Jon WhiteOn Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe 
Bernard  wrote:Jon, You would probably need wider fenders 
for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable recommending it. These frames weren't designed 
for a fender/tire combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging 
for a bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 
at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:Thanks Joe!  The description says for 
20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com.




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cf758554-888e-43a0-982e-c08b0e98e8f6n%40googlegroups.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6351e1e4.050a0220.19fb1.c873%40mx.google.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-20 Thread MoVelo
Im running 50mm SKS plastic fenders on my Ramboulliet when it's in fender 
mode. I switch back and forth between 700x32s and 650Bx42s so it's good to 
have a fender wide enough for both of those.

It works really well given the location of the brake bridge in back and 
fork crown in front. Using Tektro 559s I simply slide the brake shoes to 
the bottom of the slot for 650B and then at the top of the slot for 700c. I 
did have to file the rear brake slot a bit to get the brake shoe low 
enough. 

It's almost as simple and operation as with disc brakes. Takes me maybe 20 
mins to make the switch.

I can't think of a more versatile bike than this Rambo.

JP

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 1:27:47 PM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> I finally settled on RH stampede Pass tires on Velocity Synergy rims under 
> Honjo H-45 fenders and Paul center mount Racer brakes. Been riding that 
> Rambouillet on all roads that way for years. 
> Fendered '02 Rambouillet on 700x32 
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/7aUx9ZUx1iGtgsCM9>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:20:13 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> IF you can get those wider fenders inside those brakes. My memory of 
>> messing with this on my Romulus is pretty vague now but it wasn't the 
>> easiest project I've ever embarked on. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Peter!  
>>>
>>> Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if 
>>> they are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack 
>>> Browns are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
>>>
>>>  Original message ----
>>> From: Peter White  
>>> Date: 10/18/22 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>>
>>> I'm firmly in Joe's camp.
>>>
>>> I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are labelled 
>>> 27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, only 25mm 
>>> wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would not recommend anything 
>>> wider than these tires with any fender on the Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be 
>>> very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were my bad weather bike, I'd be 
>>> using the same tires but with the 41mm Stronglight anodized aluminum 
>>> fenders.
>>>
>>> Peter Jon White
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jon, 
>>>>
>>>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>>>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
>>>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
>>>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 
>>>>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com
>>>  
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>>> .
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cf758554-888e-43a0-982e-c08b0e98e8f6n%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-19 Thread ascpgh
I finally settled on RH stampede Pass tires on Velocity Synergy rims under 
Honjo H-45 fenders and Paul center mount Racer brakes. Been riding that 
Rambouillet on all roads that way for years. 
Fendered '02 Rambouillet on 700x32 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/7aUx9ZUx1iGtgsCM9>

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:20:13 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> IF you can get those wider fenders inside those brakes. My memory of 
> messing with this on my Romulus is pretty vague now but it wasn't the 
> easiest project I've ever embarked on. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Peter!  
>>
>> Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if 
>> they are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack 
>> Browns are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Peter White  
>> Date: 10/18/22 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>
>> I'm firmly in Joe's camp.
>>
>> I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are labelled 
>> 27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, only 25mm 
>> wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would not recommend anything 
>> wider than these tires with any fender on the Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be 
>> very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were my bad weather bike, I'd be 
>> using the same tires but with the 41mm Stronglight anodized aluminum 
>> fenders.
>>
>> Peter Jon White
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Jon, 
>>>
>>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
>>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
>>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 
>>>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>>
>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/94d97174-758c-444d-88a2-51f689c0a7f3n%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-19 Thread Peter White
The chainstay clearance is about 41mm. So if you use something wider,
you'll just need to trim the fender just behind the BB.

Peter Jon White

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 7:28 PM jonrich55  wrote:

> Thanks, Peter!
>
> Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if they
> are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack Browns
> are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Peter White 
> Date: 10/18/22 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller
>
> I'm firmly in Joe's camp.
>
> I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are labelled
> 27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, only 25mm
> wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would not recommend anything
> wider than these tires with any fender on the Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be
> very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were my bad weather bike, I'd be
> using the same tires but with the 41mm Stronglight anodized aluminum
> fenders.
>
> Peter Jon White
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Jon,
>>
>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable
>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire
>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a
>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the
>>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
> .
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/634f368f.050a0220.5f514.a789%40mx.google.com
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/634f368f.050a0220.5f514.a789%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
> .
>


-- 
Peter White

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8WTxN%2Bi6Vky_nsR%2BCKkDC4%3DQ8JH1JFyXR0cy274D9kAw%40mail.gmail.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread Joe Bernard
IF you can get those wider fenders inside those brakes. My memory of 
messing with this on my Romulus is pretty vague now but it wasn't the 
easiest project I've ever embarked on. 

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 4:28:22 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:

> Thanks, Peter!  
>
> Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 30s if they 
> are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the Jack Browns 
> are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Peter White  
> Date: 10/18/22 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>
> I'm firmly in Joe's camp.
>
> I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are labelled 
> 27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, only 25mm 
> wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would not recommend anything 
> wider than these tires with any fender on the Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be 
> very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were my bad weather bike, I'd be 
> using the same tires but with the 41mm Stronglight anodized aluminum 
> fenders.
>
> Peter Jon White
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Jon, 
>>
>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 
>>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>
>> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com
>  
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b5106223-de10-4c58-8786-f59a008e7425n%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread jonrich55
Thanks, Peter!  Appreciate everyone's help and advice.  Looks like 28 or maybe 
30s if they are true to size and 41 to 45mm fenders should work.  Guess the 
Jack Browns are nice weather gravel for the Ram.
 Original message From: Peter White  
Date: 10/18/22  3:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller I'm firmly in Joe's camp.I 
use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are labelled 27mm but 
measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, only 25mm wide, but then 
this is my good weather bike. I would not recommend anything wider than these 
tires with any fender on the Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be very dangerous, in my 
opinion. If this were my bad weather bike, I'd be using the same tires but with 
the 41mm Stronglight anodized aluminum fenders.Peter Jon WhiteOn Tue, Oct 18, 
2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:Jon, You would probably 
need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable recommending it. These 
frames weren't designed for a fender/tire combination like that and the minimal 
 clearance is begging for a bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. On 
Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:Thanks Joe!  
The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 Jack Bs, do I 
need a wider set of fenders?



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/634f368f.050a0220.5f514.a789%40mx.google.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread jonrich55
Those look cool!  My 28s are lightweights on lightweight rims and not the ones 
I would chose for rain or off road.  Was hoping the 33s would work, thought 
might look for a more offroad 28 or 30 to go with fenders.Appreciate all the 
help...kept me from doing something unwise :)
 Original message From: Joe Bernard  Date: 
10/18/22  3:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch 
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a 
Rambouiller You could put some Woody's Chop Chorts on it, or the plastic 
clip-ons Riv sells now. They won't save your hide in a downpour but at that 
point you're gonna be soaked anyway! 
https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htmOn Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 
12:42:47 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:Jon, This screengrab of that brochure 
mentions 38mm clearance without fenders, nothing about fendering. Can a tight 
fit be done? Probably and lots of people will tell you it's fine but you won't 
hear it from me. On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:47:54 AM UTC-7 Jon 
Richardson wrote:Joe,Thanks again for your input.  I thought the sales brochure 
that came out with this bike had said 38c without fender and 35c with, one of 
the reasons I figured this frame would be ideal.Another person said they have 
45mm fenders...I assume you would advise against that? Original message 
From: Joe Bernard  Date: 10/18/22  2:10 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch  Subject: Re: 
[RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller Jon, You would probably need wider 
fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable recommending it. These frames weren't 
designed for a fender/tire combination like that and the minimal  clearance is 
begging for a bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. On Tuesday, October 
18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:Thanks Joe!  The description 
says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of 
fenders?Jon Original message From: Joe Bernard 
 Date: 10/18/22  12:58 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch 
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on my Rom 
witt the stock 28mm tires. 
https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwEOn
 Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:I am looking 
to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size fits this frame?  
Thanks for the assist! Jon




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com.




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com.




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b46a966b-3864-4aee-abc2-74ec7159830dn%40googlegroups.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/634f08b9.050a0220.e47af.bd51%40mx.google.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread Joe Bernard
You could put some Woody's Chop Chorts on it, or the plastic clip-ons Riv 
sells now. They won't save your hide in a downpour but at that point you're 
gonna be soaked anyway! 

https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 12:42:47 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jon, 
>
> This screengrab of that brochure mentions 38mm clearance without fenders, 
> nothing about fendering. Can a tight fit be done? Probably and lots of 
> people will tell you it's fine but you won't hear it from me. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:47:54 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Thanks again for your input.  I thought the sales brochure that came out 
>> with this bike had said 38c without fender and 35c with, one of the reasons 
>> I figured this frame would be ideal.
>>
>> Another person said they have 45mm fenders...I assume you would advise 
>> against that?
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Joe Bernard  
>> Date: 10/18/22 2:10 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: RBW Owners Bunch  
>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>
>> Jon, 
>>
>> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
>> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
>> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
>> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 
>>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Joe Bernard  
>>> Date: 10/18/22 12:58 AM (GMT-05:00) 
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch  
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>>>
>>> SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on 
>>> my Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am looking to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size 
>>>> fits this frame?  
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the assist! 
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>>> .
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b46a966b-3864-4aee-abc2-74ec7159830dn%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread Peter White
I'm firmly in Joe's camp.

I use Challenge Paris Roubaix tires on my Rambouillet. They are labelled
27mm but measure 29.5mm. My fenders are Berthoud carbon fiber, only 25mm
wide, but then this is my good weather bike. I would not recommend anything
wider than these tires with any fender on the Rambouillet. 33.3mm would be
very dangerous, in my opinion. If this were my bad weather bike, I'd be
using the same tires but with the 41mm Stronglight anodized aluminum
fenders.

Peter Jon White

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Jon,
>
> You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable
> recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire
> combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a
> bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there.
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the
>> 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CA%2BD%3DXm8jG%3DYFXmyToGNBCAqDTgHjmeB4HjhtHJGc7-%2BFQCx8-A%40mail.gmail.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread RICHARD BORNEMAN
I have 700x28 tires under my fenders. Tried Jack Brown 33’s but too tight.
I think 28’s are the biggest tire that will fit with fenders.
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

Jon,

You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire combination 
like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a bike-stopping branch to 
get stuck in there.

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 Jack 
Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?

Jon



 Original message 
From: Joe Bernard 
Date: 10/18/22 12:58 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on my Rom 
witt the stock 28mm tires.

https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplanetcyclery.com%2Fsks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028%3Fgclid%3DCjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE=05%7C01%7C%7Cbd87d6f3773444e170eb08dab134077b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638017134264308239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=xpZxi6GwXor8XoW4nLYxDQB5IDM2eGr3Qv%2FFJDZev9M%3D=0>

On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
I am looking to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size fits 
this frame?

Thanks for the assist!
Jon

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Frbw-owners-bunch%2Fb6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%2540googlegroups.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=05%7C01%7C%7Cbd87d6f3773444e170eb08dab134077b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638017134264308239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=1pACW7C774sPPXT5ZMsil4BNP1xR2TPBpZWMnPOCZIc%3D=0>.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Frbw-owners-bunch%2F78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%2540googlegroups.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=05%7C01%7C%7Cbd87d6f3773444e170eb08dab134077b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638017134264308239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2jDmTMIC37eZzb%2FcApsO8UoYac53OU%2B%2FLCBD050tkxI%3D=0>.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DM5PR19MB0139AE62B4D1C83B5F55EB52BA289%40DM5PR19MB0139.namprd19.prod.outlook.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread jonrich55
Joe,Thanks again for your input.  I thought the sales brochure that came out 
with this bike had said 38c without fender and 35c with, one of the reasons I 
figured this frame would be ideal.Another person said they have 45mm 
fenders...I assume you would advise against that?
 Original message From: Joe Bernard  Date: 
10/18/22  2:10 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch 
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a 
Rambouiller Jon, You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not 
comfortable recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a bike-stopping 
branch to get stuck in there. On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 
Jon Richardson wrote:Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, 
however I run the 33.3 Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?Jon 
Original message From: Joe Bernard  Date: 10/18/22  
12:58 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch  
Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller SKS P35 was the standard set 
for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on my Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 
https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwEOn
 Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:I am looking 
to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size fits this frame?  
Thanks for the assist! Jon




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com.




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/634ef4d3.050a0220.fd0f0.943b%40mx.google.com.


Re: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread Joe Bernard
Jon, 

You would probably need wider fenders for 33.3 and I'm not comfortable 
recommending it. These frames weren't designed for a fender/tire 
combination like that and the minimal  clearance is begging for a 
bike-stopping branch to get stuck in there. 

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 5:17:52 AM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:

> Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 
> Jack Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Joe Bernard  
> Date: 10/18/22 12:58 AM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch  
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller 
>
> SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on 
> my Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 
>
>
> https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:
>
>> I am looking to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size 
>> fits this frame?  
>>
>> Thanks for the assist! 
>> Jon
>>
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com
>  
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78106afe-4124-40ca-b249-f844acd62792n%40googlegroups.com.


RE: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-18 Thread jonrich55
Thanks Joe!  The description says for 20-28c tires, however I run the 33.3 Jack 
Bs, do I need a wider set of fenders?Jon
 Original message From: Joe Bernard  Date: 
10/18/22  12:58 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: RBW Owners Bunch 
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Fender size for a 
Rambouiller SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used 
them on my Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 
https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwEOn
 Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:I am looking 
to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size fits this frame?  
Thanks for the assist! Jon




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/634e996b.370a0220.3e45f.599a%40mx.google.com.


[RBW] Re: Fender size for a Rambouiller

2022-10-17 Thread Joe Bernard
SKS P35 was the standard set for Rambouillet and Romulus, I used them on my 
Rom witt the stock 28mm tires. 

https://planetcyclery.com/sks-p35-chromoplastic-longboard-fender-set-silver-700c-x-2028?gclid=CjwKCAjw-rOaBhA9EiwAUkLV4ve8UTn0vhlNClxPFmn7oNl-HzCXsgMuKMkn9Q6JAsYiNouREe2CexoCUoQQAvD_BwE

On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 3:22:14 PM UTC-7 Jon Richardson wrote:

> I am looking to add a set of fenders to ride in wet weather, what size 
> fits this frame?  
>
> Thanks for the assist! 
> Jon
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ab1e91-7460-41db-ac97-354d527b03adn%40googlegroups.com.