RE: [RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help

2011-12-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Why is that not advisable? 

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Are you tightening the nut lock all the way to the rim? If so, stop doing that.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Sean Whelan  wrote:
> Several years ago, I was using a traditional brass Silca presta pump head (of 
> the sort that you can buy from Harris Cyclery). It is a great pump head, but 
> it has no locking mechanism, so it is full on secure with no release. In 
> fact, it locked so tightly on to the threaded Presta valves that I often 
> suffered flats at the seam where the valve joins the tube. Not necessarily at 
> the time of inflation.
>
> I switched pump heads to a less "tight" fit - including ones with a lever. 
> (Serfas, SKS, etc.) and the flat problem went away.
>
> When you pump up, is there a lot of friction to remove the pump head?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> --- On Thu, 12/15/11, Philip Williamson  wrote:
>
>> From: Philip Williamson 
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help
>> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
>> Date: Thursday, December 15, 2011, 10:36 AM I had a string of tubes 
>> failing at the valve stem. I think it was caused by the tube creeping 
>> when the tire pressure was too low.
>> Sometimes it was a hole, sometimes it was more like the valve 
>> attachem started peeling up. Hard to patch a tube that close to the 
>> valve stem.
>>
>> Do you see your valve stems cocked over at an angle? That's what I 
>> was seeing on my mountain bike. I started being more careful about 
>> proper inflation, and started using the dork nuts instead of keeping 
>> them for
>> M6 spacers. I haven't had that problem since.
>>
>>  Philip
>> Philip Williamson
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>>
>> On Dec 15, 5:25 am, Michael Hechmer 
>> wrote:
>> > Yikes, front tire flats are scary; I hope these were
>> slow leaks.  Is the
>> > stem breaking away from the tube?  Are you using
>> tubes with threaded stems
>> > and a locknut?  I know a lot of mechanics throw away
>> that locknut, claiming
>> > its superfluous, but I believe it helps to keep the
>> tube in position, at
>> > least during installation.  Do you have, or can you
>> borrow a different
>> > front wheel and test your rim hypothesis?
>> >
>> > michael
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help

2011-12-15 Thread Horace
Are you tightening the nut lock all the way to the rim? If so, stop doing that.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Sean Whelan  wrote:
> Several years ago, I was using a traditional brass Silca presta pump head (of 
> the sort that you can buy from Harris Cyclery). It is a great pump head, but 
> it has no locking mechanism, so it is full on secure with no release. In 
> fact, it locked so tightly on to the threaded Presta valves that I often 
> suffered flats at the seam where the valve joins the tube. Not necessarily at 
> the time of inflation.
>
> I switched pump heads to a less "tight" fit - including ones with a lever. 
> (Serfas, SKS, etc.) and the flat problem went away.
>
> When you pump up, is there a lot of friction to remove the pump head?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> --- On Thu, 12/15/11, Philip Williamson  wrote:
>
>> From: Philip Williamson 
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help
>> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
>> Date: Thursday, December 15, 2011, 10:36 AM
>> I had a string of tubes failing at
>> the valve stem. I think it was
>> caused by the tube creeping when the tire pressure was too
>> low.
>> Sometimes it was a hole, sometimes it was more like the
>> valve attachem
>> started peeling up. Hard to patch a tube that close to the
>> valve stem.
>>
>> Do you see your valve stems cocked over at an angle? That's
>> what I was
>> seeing on my mountain bike. I started being more careful
>> about proper
>> inflation, and started using the dork nuts instead of
>> keeping them for
>> M6 spacers. I haven't had that problem since.
>>
>>  Philip
>> Philip Williamson
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>>
>> On Dec 15, 5:25 am, Michael Hechmer 
>> wrote:
>> > Yikes, front tire flats are scary; I hope these were
>> slow leaks.  Is the
>> > stem breaking away from the tube?  Are you using
>> tubes with threaded stems
>> > and a locknut?  I know a lot of mechanics throw away
>> that locknut, claiming
>> > its superfluous, but I believe it helps to keep the
>> tube in position, at
>> > least during installation.  Do you have, or can you
>> borrow a different
>> > front wheel and test your rim hypothesis?
>> >
>> > michael
>>
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[RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help

2011-12-15 Thread dougP
On my Atlantis, the original front flatted with unusual frequency.
The punctures were consistenty on the inside of the tube.  Replacing
the rim strip took care of the problem.  In your situation where the
problem is in the stem area, you might try a rubber washer in the stem
hole.  The Mavic rims I now have on the Atlantis came with rubber
washers.

dougP

On Dec 14, 7:05 pm, John  wrote:
> I've run into an unusual flat tire problem on my Ramboo.  I've had
> several flat front tires since I bought it a year ago, and all are
> caused by a hole at the base of the stem.  Consistent problem with
> various brands and sizes of tubes.  I've looked, unsuccessfully, for a
> burr around the stem hole in the rim.  I'm going to try adding a patch
> around the stem as a preventive measure.  Have any of you run into
> this problem before?  Any suggstions?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help

2011-12-15 Thread Sean Whelan
Several years ago, I was using a traditional brass Silca presta pump head (of 
the sort that you can buy from Harris Cyclery). It is a great pump head, but it 
has no locking mechanism, so it is full on secure with no release. In fact, it 
locked so tightly on to the threaded Presta valves that I often suffered flats 
at the seam where the valve joins the tube. Not necessarily at the time of 
inflation.

I switched pump heads to a less "tight" fit - including ones with a lever. 
(Serfas, SKS, etc.) and the flat problem went away.

When you pump up, is there a lot of friction to remove the pump head?

Thanks,
Sean

--- On Thu, 12/15/11, Philip Williamson  wrote:

> From: Philip Williamson 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Date: Thursday, December 15, 2011, 10:36 AM
> I had a string of tubes failing at
> the valve stem. I think it was
> caused by the tube creeping when the tire pressure was too
> low.
> Sometimes it was a hole, sometimes it was more like the
> valve attachem
> started peeling up. Hard to patch a tube that close to the
> valve stem.
> 
> Do you see your valve stems cocked over at an angle? That's
> what I was
> seeing on my mountain bike. I started being more careful
> about proper
> inflation, and started using the dork nuts instead of
> keeping them for
> M6 spacers. I haven't had that problem since.
> 
>  Philip
> Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 5:25 am, Michael Hechmer 
> wrote:
> > Yikes, front tire flats are scary; I hope these were
> slow leaks.  Is the
> > stem breaking away from the tube?  Are you using
> tubes with threaded stems
> > and a locknut?  I know a lot of mechanics throw away
> that locknut, claiming
> > its superfluous, but I believe it helps to keep the
> tube in position, at
> > least during installation.  Do you have, or can you
> borrow a different
> > front wheel and test your rim hypothesis?
> >
> > michael
> 
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[RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help

2011-12-15 Thread Philip Williamson
I had a string of tubes failing at the valve stem. I think it was
caused by the tube creeping when the tire pressure was too low.
Sometimes it was a hole, sometimes it was more like the valve attachem
started peeling up. Hard to patch a tube that close to the valve stem.

Do you see your valve stems cocked over at an angle? That's what I was
seeing on my mountain bike. I started being more careful about proper
inflation, and started using the dork nuts instead of keeping them for
M6 spacers. I haven't had that problem since.

 Philip
Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Dec 15, 5:25 am, Michael Hechmer  wrote:
> Yikes, front tire flats are scary; I hope these were slow leaks.  Is the
> stem breaking away from the tube?  Are you using tubes with threaded stems
> and a locknut?  I know a lot of mechanics throw away that locknut, claiming
> its superfluous, but I believe it helps to keep the tube in position, at
> least during installation.  Do you have, or can you borrow a different
> front wheel and test your rim hypothesis?
>
> michael

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[RBW] Re: Flat Tire Help

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
Yikes, front tire flats are scary; I hope these were slow leaks.  Is the 
stem breaking away from the tube?  Are you using tubes with threaded stems 
and a locknut?  I know a lot of mechanics throw away that locknut, claiming 
its superfluous, but I believe it helps to keep the tube in position, at 
least during installation.  Do you have, or can you borrow a different 
front wheel and test your rim hypothesis?

michael

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