[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
Anyone have any experience with the Eno's? Are they comfortable or a waste of money? I saw they were pretty cheap during the REI sale. Thoughts? John On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 6:15:11 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I'm going nuts waiting for Colorado to dry out, and it's still raining. Daydreaming of long hot dusty rides for some overnight camping has been relief. My old Kelty Zen 2 person tent has been fine, although it's klunky, showing it's age, and I know replacing it is on the horizon. Until last year, I assumed it would be with an updated tent, but I am very intrigued now with the idea of a hammock. Specifically some of the claims regarding comfort. I'm not a particularly good sleeper anyway, so camping is generally a night of tossing and turning in my bag. I'm curious if this is familiar to anyone here? If so, has a hammock made any difference? My current set up is either a thermarest inflatable or Z foam pad, with a down mummy style bag. Would my pads still work in a hammock for insulation, or do you have to use some sort of hanging insulator? So far the ENO seems to be a front runner just on popularity. But then theres tarps, netting, straps, etc that appear to get added on often too. Aside from some random netted hammocks, I have little experience with them, and certainly no overnight use. I've considered trying to find one used and try it bare bones just to see if I could even nap in it. Or maybe take it along while camping with my wife and daughter? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I am a fan of the Warbonnet Traveler, single layer. I went for most cost effective, and light. I was living in Socal, and figured it would be unlikely Id get rained on. I'd probably invest in a hammock with integrated rain shelter and stuff now, but its super light and very comfortable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
There is some good information in hammocks out there from a few enthusiasts with videos on how to lie diagonal and stay flat, etc.. My findings: Great for a solo tour. Light, easy to set up and comfy. Cooler. Sleep on top of your pad to stay a bit warmer, but I was cold in the 30's when I would have been fine in a tent and on the ground. Light and easy with one person, if two, get a tent. Bugs? Gotta have an extra screen set up. I haven't figured that out yet so I'll probably hold for spring and fall without major southern bugs. Y'all in Cali don't have bugs, right? I string a tarp atop for rain and it works pretty well. I Have a basic tarp, but will spring for an eno one if I keep it up. Lighter and easier to pack and designed for the purpose. Good luck and keep is informed. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
This all got me thinking about hammocks. I already own and use a Hennessey which is great for hammock with integrated bug netting, etc. It's a little on the heavy side but I've used it many times. In any case, I got to thinking about a lighter, quick setup hammock just for keeping with me and riding to the beach and such. I'm not recommending it, but I notice that Cascade Designs has a model called the Slacker which looks much like the Kammok and others. The reason I bring it up is that today only they will add in the $30 suspender straps for free. While you can get their hammock for less an Amazon and such, the added value of the suspenders may make the overall cost cheaper at their site: http://www.cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/hammocks/slacker-double-hammock/product I don't know anything about this hammock other than that, but have had good luck with their other products as I own and use an MSR tent (and had great customer service) and a Therm-a-Rest pad. Aloha, Bob On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Coconutbill evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: I am a fan of the Warbonnet Traveler, single layer. I went for most cost effective, and light. I was living in Socal, and figured it would be unlikely Id get rained on. I'd probably invest in a hammock with integrated rain shelter and stuff now, but its super light and very comfortable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com Wu Name: Tha Eurythmic King of Nowhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
Well, I stumbled upon a decent deal on a new Kammok Roo and it's on the way. I will pick up some of the optional (python?) straps soon and give it a cursory go. I wish I had trees that would hold it in my yard, but they're all too spindly. We did have our first appreciable sun for the first time in 3 weeks, so hopefully it sticks around to dry us out some. My plan is to sneak in a coffeeoutside Friday with added intent of finding some trees! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I took the Hennessy on a 10 day tour and I had a fantastic time. The asymmetrical design allows you to lay nearly flat. Super comfy. Camped down to freezing with an older thermarest pad. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Hammock is the way to go. Twine/paracord hammock if you want to live dangerously. https://flic.kr/p/afaezt I had a eno that ripped on me. I like Roo from Kammock. Really well made hammock and well thought out. A huge double nest hammock with gear loops along the edge so that you can jury-rig it as a ghetto shelter. The carabiner set-up is spot on and easy. Kammocks Trap also doubles a water retention and has tent poles in it. On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 6:15:11 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I'm going nuts waiting for Colorado to dry out, and it's still raining. Daydreaming of long hot dusty rides for some overnight camping has been relief. My old Kelty Zen 2 person tent has been fine, although it's klunky, showing it's age, and I know replacing it is on the horizon. Until last year, I assumed it would be with an updated tent, but I am very intrigued now with the idea of a hammock. Specifically some of the claims regarding comfort. I'm not a particularly good sleeper anyway, so camping is generally a night of tossing and turning in my bag. I'm curious if this is familiar to anyone here? If so, has a hammock made any difference? My current set up is either a thermarest inflatable or Z foam pad, with a down mummy style bag. Would my pads still work in a hammock for insulation, or do you have to use some sort of hanging insulator? So far the ENO seems to be a front runner just on popularity. But then theres tarps, netting, straps, etc that appear to get added on often too. Aside from some random netted hammocks, I have little experience with them, and certainly no overnight use. I've considered trying to find one used and try it bare bones just to see if I could even nap in it. Or maybe take it along while camping with my wife and daughter? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I use a Hennessey Hammock with a Thermarest ridge rest pad. A pad might be needed for insulation on a cold night, but not for cushiness. An inflatable pad is probably going to shift around and drive you nuts. Give it a try. I'm a side sleeper and sleeping on the ground is no fun for me. Once I got the hammock, I slept straight through. My advice is to figure out if you want a symmetrical or asymmetrical design, zipper or velcro (I like the zipper), and get the biggest fly you can. If it rains, you don't want to be trapped in the hammock all day and a large fly will give you a place to sit, cook, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I also use a Hennessey hammock and it is so so so much more comfortable than sleeping on the ground. Because my setup before starting with the hammock was tarp camping with a Thermarest ultralight inflatable, that's what I have continued to use in the hammock. I've never noticed it shifting around. I do have a Z-pad that I only used once because it is too thin for sleeping on the ground. Maybe I'll try that in the hammock some day. I'm really only using the pad because my sleeping bag is a quilt that covers me from the top. For warm nights, I probably wouldn't even need the pad. On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 9:38:02 AM UTC-4, Ginz wrote: I use a Hennessey Hammock with a Thermarest ridge rest pad. A pad might be needed for insulation on a cold night, but not for cushiness. An inflatable pad is probably going to shift around and drive you nuts. Give it a try. I'm a side sleeper and sleeping on the ground is no fun for me. Once I got the hammock, I slept straight through. My advice is to figure out if you want a symmetrical or asymmetrical design, zipper or velcro (I like the zipper), and get the biggest fly you can. If it rains, you don't want to be trapped in the hammock all day and a large fly will give you a place to sit, cook, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I've got a cheap Gibbons hammock that was bought at an REI sale, I haven't been able to find anything more on them, but similar to ENO, just different set of strap hardware. I love the hammock would recommend just getting a hammock and trying it out, even ENO's can be had relatively cheaply. If you like it, buy the tarp, etc. I don't camp w/o my kids very often, so I usually use the tent, but the hammock is much better for me as the kids age are comfortable sleeping w/o an adult near when the coyotes howl, they'll have their own hammocks. Best, Eric Nolan Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
A newer company that just sells camping hammocks is Kammok http://kammok.com/. Based in Austin, but getting bigger all the time. Buy a hammock with the Python Straps, and you can set it up in under 5 minutes with a lot of versatility for length, and they fit a sleeping bag really easily. I have one. Haven't used it for actual camping yet, but I love taking it hiking and on trails. I'd check them out. If you jump on it this weekend, though, REI is having a great sale on the ENO's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I tried a hammock a while back. I much prefer the ground now, though before floor living I preferred the hammock. Now, the ground feels just like my bed at home and I sleep great! I found that night below 40˚F were very cold in the hammock and would have required a bottom quilt to make it feasible. In the Colorado mountains, nights below 40˚F happen year round, so keep that in mind (your temp threshold may differ, and I don't remember what pad, if any, I used beneath me. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
I'm good at sleeping in general, but I too tend to toss and turn on the ground. I've done several overnighters with Manny where he's been in a hammock, so I was intrigued to try it. I bought the brand that REI sells. I forget the brand now. I have a good hammock test spot in my back yard, and in the summertime, I frequently hang it up there and listen to the ballgame on AM radio while my kids do the gardening. I tried to do an overnighter in my back yard and I couldn't do it. The crescent shape it bends my body in locks my knees hyperextended, which gets uncomfortable after about 10 minutes. I think I'd need to run a quilt, instead of my minimalist down mummy bag, so I could have more leg-position options. On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 6:15:11 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I'm going nuts waiting for Colorado to dry out, and it's still raining. Daydreaming of long hot dusty rides for some overnight camping has been relief. My old Kelty Zen 2 person tent has been fine, although it's klunky, showing it's age, and I know replacing it is on the horizon. Until last year, I assumed it would be with an updated tent, but I am very intrigued now with the idea of a hammock. Specifically some of the claims regarding comfort. I'm not a particularly good sleeper anyway, so camping is generally a night of tossing and turning in my bag. I'm curious if this is familiar to anyone here? If so, has a hammock made any difference? My current set up is either a thermarest inflatable or Z foam pad, with a down mummy style bag. Would my pads still work in a hammock for insulation, or do you have to use some sort of hanging insulator? So far the ENO seems to be a front runner just on popularity. But then theres tarps, netting, straps, etc that appear to get added on often too. Aside from some random netted hammocks, I have little experience with them, and certainly no overnight use. I've considered trying to find one used and try it bare bones just to see if I could even nap in it. Or maybe take it along while camping with my wife and daughter? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hammock suggestions for S24O type outings.
Hammock is the way to go. Twine/paracord hammock if you want to live dangerously. https://flic.kr/p/afaezt I had a eno that ripped on me. I like Roo from Kammock. Really well made hammock and well thought out. A huge double nest hammock with gear loops along the edge so that you can jury-rig it as a ghetto shelter. The carabiner set-up is spot on and easy. Kammocks Trap also doubles a water retention and has tent poles in it. On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 6:15:11 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I'm going nuts waiting for Colorado to dry out, and it's still raining. Daydreaming of long hot dusty rides for some overnight camping has been relief. My old Kelty Zen 2 person tent has been fine, although it's klunky, showing it's age, and I know replacing it is on the horizon. Until last year, I assumed it would be with an updated tent, but I am very intrigued now with the idea of a hammock. Specifically some of the claims regarding comfort. I'm not a particularly good sleeper anyway, so camping is generally a night of tossing and turning in my bag. I'm curious if this is familiar to anyone here? If so, has a hammock made any difference? My current set up is either a thermarest inflatable or Z foam pad, with a down mummy style bag. Would my pads still work in a hammock for insulation, or do you have to use some sort of hanging insulator? So far the ENO seems to be a front runner just on popularity. But then theres tarps, netting, straps, etc that appear to get added on often too. Aside from some random netted hammocks, I have little experience with them, and certainly no overnight use. I've considered trying to find one used and try it bare bones just to see if I could even nap in it. Or maybe take it along while camping with my wife and daughter? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
