Re: [RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
Just a few hours drive up I-65 from you Bill and we still get 55" a year. I agree that the bags do great, although I use a helmet cover on the Lil Loafer. Just in case. I hate having to re lube though after a deluge. Keeps rust away though. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM, MobileBill wrote: > I don't mean to get into a bragging war with the folks in Seattle, but > Mobile is literally the rainiest city in the U.S. at 67 inches per > year (Seattle gets a drizzly 38 inches or so). And we regularly get > two and three inch in a couple of hour kind of deluges (Grant now has > some inklng of this). During our last tropical storm, I accidentally > left my Saluki outside with my work clothes stuffed inside the > Sackville panniers. After an inch and a half of rain in an hour, my > work clothes were dry as a bone. I'm sure it would have been > overwhelmed at some point, but it's going to be a once in a decade > storm. I could report similar semi-miraculous moments with other Riv > heavy canvas bags (the older trunk bags and the erstwhile Keven bag). > > On Dec 27, 2:29 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > > After a 3 or 4 seasons in Seattle commuting and riding with various > canvas > > bags (Sackvilles and Acorns), I would say they are not appreciably less > > waterproof than the Ortlieb I used to use other than the zippers. If you > > can fold the bag over (shopsack) so the zipper isn't exposed, you should > be > > good. I also would say the fabric used in the Sackvilles is better than > > the other canvas I've used. I still like my Acorn Tall Rando, though :) > > > > Brian > > Seattle, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Michael wrote: > > > Any water get inside in rainy rides? > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M8IvMt-QngUJ. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
I don't mean to get into a bragging war with the folks in Seattle, but Mobile is literally the rainiest city in the U.S. at 67 inches per year (Seattle gets a drizzly 38 inches or so). And we regularly get two and three inch in a couple of hour kind of deluges (Grant now has some inklng of this). During our last tropical storm, I accidentally left my Saluki outside with my work clothes stuffed inside the Sackville panniers. After an inch and a half of rain in an hour, my work clothes were dry as a bone. I'm sure it would have been overwhelmed at some point, but it's going to be a once in a decade storm. I could report similar semi-miraculous moments with other Riv heavy canvas bags (the older trunk bags and the erstwhile Keven bag). On Dec 27, 2:29 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > After a 3 or 4 seasons in Seattle commuting and riding with various canvas > bags (Sackvilles and Acorns), I would say they are not appreciably less > waterproof than the Ortlieb I used to use other than the zippers. If you > can fold the bag over (shopsack) so the zipper isn't exposed, you should be > good. I also would say the fabric used in the Sackvilles is better than > the other canvas I've used. I still like my Acorn Tall Rando, though :) > > Brian > Seattle, WA > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Michael wrote: > > Any water get inside in rainy rides? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M8IvMt-QngUJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
I have a medium saddlesack. I've ridden in heavy downpours and steady rains in the Boston area for my commute (~40 min). I have not had water get into the main compartment or side zip pockets. (In rains, I put the removable outer pocket into the main compartment. The zipper for the outer pocket is brass(?), and I wouldn't trust it to keep water out.) On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:15:03 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: > > Any water get inside in rainy rides? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EgS4BRFu1TIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
lets say pretty water proof. http://flic.kr/p/cS2vhb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RF_4nV02VuAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
I've never had water enter the main compartment of my large Saddlesack, which has seen some rainy multi-day tours in Va./W. Va./ MD.. Nonetheless, I use trash compactor bags or mega-size Ziplocks as liners. I have had rain water enter the two front zippered pockets and even the leather flapped side pockets. Putting all you stuff carried in these two locations in Ziplocks is prudent. The great advantage of a canvas bag for bicycle touring is the same as a Duluth Pack for canoe tripping. Breathability. Even if the interior of the bag gets wet it will dry out, evaporate. You don't get that with waterproof-coating bags. The exterior may dry fast but any water that gets inside stays there till you drain it out and mop the inside. For the same reason I prefer Egyptian hemp cotton decks on Klepper kayaks for touring to any waterproof nylon ones. On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:15:03 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: > > Any water get inside in rainy rides? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pmzgnHtojwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
The Scottish fabric is the tightest and most light-and-airproof of any I've seen or used, and as far as I know is not available in the US. Carradice, I think, gets its fabric from the same Scottish maker. Or at least *has*. The waterproofness is one thing, and a big one, but as KS says and does, stuff your dead-if-wet stuff in plastic or nylon bags. Or get vinyl bags, like Ortliebs. Waterproofness aside and on a more practical, everyday note, the tightness and dryness of the Sackvilles means they don't accumulate dirt like both looser and oilier bags do. I don't say the bags are perfect, but they are as good as they can be, and as good as I've seen. Good enough, for sure. On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:15:03 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > Any water get inside in rainy rides? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LouyLyoCZvsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How waterproof are the Sackvilles?
In my experience, the saddlesack bags (medium and large) will keep your gear dry. The canvas is fairly thick and tightly woven, and the main flap provides lots of coverage, almost like a raincape over your stuff. On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:15:03 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: > > Any water get inside in rainy rides? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6kEq1DMhWz8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
