[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-09 Thread dougP
Maybe bike models are like celebrities in that they get more attention when 
they are gone?  For instance, a few years back we had a long thread about 
whether or not the Rambouillet was the "best Rivendell", and it had been 
out of production for some time.  So your inquiry about Betty may trigger 
others to share their thoughts about their experiences.  It's been fun to 
hear your enthusiasm for yours, and your timing on getting one was quite 
lucky. Hope we hear from other happy Betty owners.

dougP  

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other 
> Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing out 
> there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with 
> Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and 
> seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always 
> found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the 
> Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about what the 
> Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's 
> site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you can 
> do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the 
> equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister." 
>
> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of their 
> model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or read 
> all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. Unless 
> I write it myself, of course...
>
> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
> Cecily 
>

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-09 Thread Cecily Walker
I hope so, doug. I was looking at photos of the Cheviot on the Blug last 
night thinking as nice as it is, it doesn't make my heart flutter the way 
my Betty Foy does. Even though it took years to save up for it, I'm glad I 
got one when I did. 

On Sunday, February 9, 2014 12:40:47 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> Maybe bike models are like celebrities in that they get more attention 
> when they are gone?  For instance, a few years back we had a long thread 
> about whether or not the Rambouillet was the "best Rivendell", and it had 
> been out of production for some time.  So your inquiry about Betty may 
> trigger others to share their thoughts about their experiences.  It's been 
> fun to hear your enthusiasm for yours, and your timing on getting one was 
> quite lucky. Hope we hear from other happy Betty owners.
>
> dougP  
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other 
>> Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing out 
>> there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with 
>> Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and 
>> seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always 
>> found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the 
>> Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about what the 
>> Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's 
>> site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you can 
>> do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the 
>> equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister." 
>>
>> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of 
>> their model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or 
>> read all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. 
>> Unless I write it myself, of course...
>>
>> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
>> Cecily 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread LeahFoy
Cecily, I'm glad I'm not the only one who vastly prefers the BF - I almost got 
kicked off the list when I said it! ;) 

I wish there were more BF owners who were writing about their bikes, but maybe 
it has to be you and me. A collaborative effort, perhaps!

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Cecily Walker
Yes! Between you, me, and Pammie, I'm sure we could write a lot!

On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:38:19 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Cecily, I'm glad I'm not the only one who vastly prefers the BF - I almost 
> got kicked off the list when I said it! ;) 
>
> I wish there were more BF owners who were writing about their bikes, but 
> maybe it has to be you and me. A collaborative effort, perhaps!
>

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Cecily Walker
I hadn't compared the Foy to any other Riv models so I can't compare it to 
those, but it's definitely far better than any other bike I've owned.  I 
think you, me, and Pammie should start collaborating on a series of posts. 
:-D

On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:38:19 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Cecily, I'm glad I'm not the only one who vastly prefers the BF - I almost 
> got kicked off the list when I said it! ;) 
>
> I wish there were more BF owners who were writing about their bikes, but 
> maybe it has to be you and me. A collaborative effort, perhaps!
>

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread grrlyrida
Six years ago I went to Riv HQ and rode a Betty Foy for half the day. It 
was one of the best experiences I've had at a bike shop. I guess I was 
hanging around so long and riding every size of the Betty Foy that I met 
Grant and he said I should get the larger size. I didn't want to leave. I 
never bought a Betty Foy. I bought a custom Riv mixte instead. But I 
remember what a smooth enjoyable ride that Betty was. I was smiling while I 
rode around Walnut Creek. I was a Riv convert before I rode Betty, but 
afterward I became a devotee.

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other 
> Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing out 
> there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with 
> Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and 
> seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always 
> found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the 
> Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about what the 
> Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's 
> site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you can 
> do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the 
> equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister." 
>
> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of their 
> model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or read 
> all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. Unless 
> I write it myself, of course...
>
> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
> Cecily 
>

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Cecily Walker
I'm headed toward the devotee camp myself. A friend just bought a 
super-duper high end downhill mountain bike, and I want to accompany her on 
some of the less strenuous but somewhat demanding single track rides that I 
can't do on the Betty Foy (because I'm too heavy in the saddle). I am 
seriously contemplating adding a Hunqapillar to my Rivendell stable. 

I have no idea how I'm going to pay for it, but I have no doubt that it 
will eventually happen. 

On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:02:51 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:
>
> Six years ago I went to Riv HQ and rode a Betty Foy for half the day. It 
> was one of the best experiences I've had at a bike shop. I guess I was 
> hanging around so long and riding every size of the Betty Foy that I met 
> Grant and he said I should get the larger size. I didn't want to leave. I 
> never bought a Betty Foy. I bought a custom Riv mixte instead. But I 
> remember what a smooth enjoyable ride that Betty was. I was smiling while I 
> rode around Walnut Creek. I was a Riv convert before I rode Betty, but 
> afterward I became a devotee.
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other 
>> Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing out 
>> there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with 
>> Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and 
>> seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always 
>> found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the 
>> Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about what the 
>> Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's 
>> site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you can 
>> do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the 
>> equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister." 
>>
>> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of 
>> their model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or 
>> read all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. 
>> Unless I write it myself, of course...
>>
>> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
>> Cecily 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-11 Thread grrlyrida
That's funny Cecily. I was laughing reading your reply because now I think I 
need to get a Sam for touring. I don't have money and either and I haven't been 
on a tour since 2008, but just in case ...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Pam Ellen Hudson
Well, I don't have the Betty Foy -- but I do have a mixte Royal H, in great 
Rivendell tradition -- I'm happy to join:)  


On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:38 AM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> Cecily, I'm glad I'm not the only one who vastly prefers the BF - I almost 
> got kicked off the list when I said it! ;) 
> 
> I wish there were more BF owners who were writing about their bikes, but 
> maybe it has to be you and me. A collaborative effort, perhaps!
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Cecily Walker
Pammie, I'm so glad you got this bike back. And as for joining in - the 
more the merrier!

On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:45:47 AM UTC-8, Pammie wrote:
>
> Well, I don’t have the Betty Foy — but I do have a mixte Royal H, in great 
> Rivendell tradition — I’m happy to join:)   
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:38 AM, LeahFoy > 
> wrote: 
>
> > Cecily, I'm glad I'm not the only one who vastly prefers the BF - I 
> almost got kicked off the list when I said it! ;) 
> > 
> > I wish there were more BF owners who were writing about their bikes, but 
> maybe it has to be you and me. A collaborative effort, perhaps! 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread cyclotourist
Leah, I must have missed your nearly getting kicked off for your
Betty-love. The Betty Foy is one of Rivendell's best selling bikes, coming
close to the Atlantis IIRC. Maybe not as well represented in this online
space, but holding it's own IRL!!!

Cecily, I can't say enough, get whatever bike makes you comfortable out in
the dirt. There's something wonderful about riding a bike in the woods that
is just magical. You don't have to get a full on North Shore approved bike,
but that is your neighborhood! You would be amazed what a solid 90's MTB
would do for you.

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Cecily Walker wrote:

> I'm headed toward the devotee camp myself. A friend just bought a
> super-duper high end downhill mountain bike, and I want to accompany her on
> some of the less strenuous but somewhat demanding single track rides that I
> can't do on the Betty Foy (because I'm too heavy in the saddle). I am
> seriously contemplating adding a Hunqapillar to my Rivendell stable.
>
> I have no idea how I'm going to pay for it, but I have no doubt that it
> will eventually happen.
>
>
> On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:02:51 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:
>>
>> Six years ago I went to Riv HQ and rode a Betty Foy for half the day. It
>> was one of the best experiences I've had at a bike shop. I guess I was
>> hanging around so long and riding every size of the Betty Foy that I met
>> Grant and he said I should get the larger size. I didn't want to leave. I
>> never bought a Betty Foy. I bought a custom Riv mixte instead. But I
>> remember what a smooth enjoyable ride that Betty was. I was smiling while I
>> rode around Walnut Creek. I was a Riv convert before I rode Betty, but
>> afterward I became a devotee.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other
>>> Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing out
>>> there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with
>>> Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and
>>> seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always
>>> found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the
>>> Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about what the
>>> Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's
>>> site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you can
>>> do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the
>>> equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister."
>>>
>>> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of
>>> their model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or
>>> read all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much.
>>> Unless I write it myself, of course...
>>>
>>> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
>>> Cecily
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Pam Ellen Hudson
That's a great story -- I'd love to collaborate!

On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:02 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:

> Six years ago I went to Riv HQ and rode a Betty Foy for half the day. It was 
> one of the best experiences I've had at a bike shop. I guess I was hanging 
> around so long and riding every size of the Betty Foy that I met Grant and he 
> said I should get the larger size. I didn't want to leave. I never bought a 
> Betty Foy. I bought a custom Riv mixte instead. But I remember what a smooth 
> enjoyable ride that Betty was. I was smiling while I rode around Walnut 
> Creek. I was a Riv convert before I rode Betty, but afterward I became a 
> devotee.
> 
> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other Riv 
> bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing out there 
> about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with Lovely 
> Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and seen the 
> videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always found it odd 
> that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the Betty Foy, the fun 
> people have had in the saddle, or musings about what the Foy has meant to the 
> lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's site is scant when it 
> comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you can do equally well on a 
> Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the equivalent of saying "Yeah, 
> so's your sister." 
> 
> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of their 
> model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or read all 
> there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. Unless I 
> write it myself, of course...
> 
> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
> Cecily 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Kelly
Well the Betty makes a great photo prop too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/12397182144/

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-10 Thread Cecily Walker
I love riding in the dirt. I was surprised by how much I loved it, but 
maybe I shouldn't have been - before my osteoarthritis got really bad, I 
used to love trail running, too. 

I think with a different set of wheels/tires, Betty could take me on most 
of the trails I'd be happiest on in the area, but I'm pretty sure she isn't 
North Shore ready. To be honest, I'm not sure I am, either. But I do love a 
challenge! :-D

On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:47:05 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Leah, I must have missed your nearly getting kicked off for your 
> Betty-love. The Betty Foy is one of Rivendell's best selling bikes, coming 
> close to the Atlantis IIRC. Maybe not as well represented in this online 
> space, but holding it's own IRL!!!
>
> Cecily, I can't say enough, get whatever bike makes you comfortable out in 
> the dirt. There's something wonderful about riding a bike in the woods that 
> is just magical. You don't have to get a full on North Shore approved bike, 
> but that is your neighborhood! You would be amazed what a solid 90's MTB 
> would do for you. 
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Cecily Walker 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm headed toward the devotee camp myself. A friend just bought a 
>> super-duper high end downhill mountain bike, and I want to accompany her on 
>> some of the less strenuous but somewhat demanding single track rides that I 
>> can't do on the Betty Foy (because I'm too heavy in the saddle). I am 
>> seriously contemplating adding a Hunqapillar to my Rivendell stable. 
>>
>> I have no idea how I'm going to pay for it, but I have no doubt that it 
>> will eventually happen. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:02:51 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:
>>>
>>> Six years ago I went to Riv HQ and rode a Betty Foy for half the day. It 
>>> was one of the best experiences I've had at a bike shop. I guess I was 
>>> hanging around so long and riding every size of the Betty Foy that I met 
>>> Grant and he said I should get the larger size. I didn't want to leave. I 
>>> never bought a Betty Foy. I bought a custom Riv mixte instead. But I 
>>> remember what a smooth enjoyable ride that Betty was. I was smiling while I 
>>> rode around Walnut Creek. I was a Riv convert before I rode Betty, but 
>>> afterward I became a devotee.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:

 I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and other 
 Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little writing 
 out 
 there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm familiar with 
 Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read the posts (and 
 seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but I've always 
 found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the history of the 
 Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about what 
 the 
 Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even Rivendell's 
 site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying only that you 
 can 
 do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. That's the 
 equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister." 

 And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of 
 their model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or 
 read all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. 
 Unless I write it myself, of course...

 Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
 Cecily 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter

Riding my '88 Bridgestone MB - 2 in the woods is a blast.
On 2/10/2014 9:47 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

You would be amazed what a solid 90's MTB would do for you.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving Tributes to Betty Foy

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'd love to write praises of Betty.  But I can't yet.   Pat rode this bike 
when we were in Ca., but never wants to spend money on herself, so we 
passed.  I leaped when the demo went on sale, so the bike has been 
ridden by lots of folks.

When Betty arrived here my shop was full of "stuff" from the basement which 
was occupying my attention with a new heating system.  I set Betty up in 
the entry foyer and put her together where she still stands getting oohs 
and ahas.  Ask again after winter and mud season.

Michael
Westford, VT  

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:07:35 AM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I love riding in the dirt. I was surprised by how much I loved it, but 
> maybe I shouldn't have been - before my osteoarthritis got really bad, I 
> used to love trail running, too. 
>
> I think with a different set of wheels/tires, Betty could take me on most 
> of the trails I'd be happiest on in the area, but I'm pretty sure she isn't 
> North Shore ready. To be honest, I'm not sure I am, either. But I do love a 
> challenge! :-D
>
> On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:47:05 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Leah, I must have missed your nearly getting kicked off for your 
>> Betty-love. The Betty Foy is one of Rivendell's best selling bikes, coming 
>> close to the Atlantis IIRC. Maybe not as well represented in this online 
>> space, but holding it's own IRL!!!
>>
>> Cecily, I can't say enough, get whatever bike makes you comfortable out 
>> in the dirt. There's something wonderful about riding a bike in the woods 
>> that is just magical. You don't have to get a full on North Shore approved 
>> bike, but that is your neighborhood! You would be amazed what a solid 90's 
>> MTB would do for you. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>>> I'm headed toward the devotee camp myself. A friend just bought a 
>>> super-duper high end downhill mountain bike, and I want to accompany her on 
>>> some of the less strenuous but somewhat demanding single track rides that I 
>>> can't do on the Betty Foy (because I'm too heavy in the saddle). I am 
>>> seriously contemplating adding a Hunqapillar to my Rivendell stable. 
>>>
>>> I have no idea how I'm going to pay for it, but I have no doubt that it 
>>> will eventually happen. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:02:51 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:

 Six years ago I went to Riv HQ and rode a Betty Foy for half the day. 
 It was one of the best experiences I've had at a bike shop. I guess I was 
 hanging around so long and riding every size of the Betty Foy that I met 
 Grant and he said I should get the larger size. I didn't want to leave. I 
 never bought a Betty Foy. I bought a custom Riv mixte instead. But I 
 remember what a smooth enjoyable ride that Betty was. I was smiling while 
 I 
 rode around Walnut Creek. I was a Riv convert before I rode Betty, but 
 afterward I became a devotee.

 On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:58:58 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I've read many loving tributes to Sams, Hilsens, Hunqapillars and 
> other Riv bikes over the last few years, but there is precious little 
> writing out there about the joys of owning and riding a Betty Foy. I'm 
> familiar with Lovely Bicycle's faint praise, and I've read and re-read 
> the 
> posts (and seen the videos) from the women of Let's Go Ride a Bike, but 
> I've always found it odd that there isn't a lot out there about the 
> history 
> of the Betty Foy, the fun people have had in the saddle, or musings about 
> what the Foy has meant to the lucky woman (or man) who owns one. Even 
> Rivendell's site is scant when it comes to copy about the Foy, saying 
> only 
> that you can do equally well on a Betty Foy what you can do on a Sam. 
> That's the equivalent of saying "Yeah, so's your sister." 
>
> And now that Betty Foy (and her brother Yves) are nearing the end of 
> their model lives, I fear that I'll never learn all there is to learn, or 
> read all there is to read about this bike that I've come to love so much. 
> Unless I write it myself, of course...
>
> Feeling thinky on a Saturday night,
> Cecily 
>
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