[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Oh, no need for more precise measurements. Thanks, though! Thinking about it more, I think that there are simply too many variables. I think my long-term best hope (and this is long-term... a couple years, maybe) would be for my wife to look at / try on a Betty in person. The paint job alone would help a lot. Having seen one, I know they look even better than they do in photographs. If she happens to land on a 58, I think I could enjoy riding it some times, even if it is a bit small. However, if she lands on a 52, well... then I guess I may have to get a 62 later, even if it is some large while later. Meanwhile, I think I could suffer along, being forced to ride my Hillborne for a while. Maybe two or three whiles. Man, it is a sweet bike. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: If I was getting the Betty just for me, then I'd have gotten the 62 as it fits me better. However, save for the fact that I too would like to be able to raise the bars a bit higher and at this point cannot (Nitto stem is at maximum extension) it's still a pretty good fit. I'm 5'11 with a PBH of about 89. I can't recall what my daughter's PBH are, but they are about 5'7 and the saddle comes almost all the way down into the seat post so it fits them well. Remember I have the spring B17 Flyer which is taller than an unsprung saddle so I'm pretty sure your wife at 5'6 should also be able to fit on the 58. I tested both but just followed the guidelines on the Betty's page to do a quick assessment on whether it would fit my daughters, we were all within the printed ranges for the 58. If you want more exact measurements i can provide them. My oldest daughter's initial feedback was that she would like to have the handlebars a liitle closer to her (shorter stem) but that it was OK as it was. We'll see what her feedback is after we do our next S24O in Angel Island in Thanksgiving. She won't get to really ride it until then when she comes home from Berkeley. Maybe I can convince my youngest daughter to go on a ride with me... Isn't that ironic? There's a Betty in the house yet Dad still has to beg to have company on a ride... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Sounds like a plan! Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 10, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, no need for more precise measurements. Thanks, though! Thinking about it more, I think that there are simply too many variables. I think my long-term best hope (and this is long-term... a couple years, maybe) would be for my wife to look at / try on a Betty in person. The paint job alone would help a lot. Having seen one, I know they look even better than they do in photographs. If she happens to land on a 58, I think I could enjoy riding it some times, even if it is a bit small. However, if she lands on a 52, well... then I guess I may have to get a 62 later, even if it is some large while later. Meanwhile, I think I could suffer along, being forced to ride my Hillborne for a while. Maybe two or three whiles. Man, it is a sweet bike. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: If I was getting the Betty just for me, then I'd have gotten the 62 as it fits me better. However, save for the fact that I too would like to be able to raise the bars a bit higher and at this point cannot (Nitto stem is at maximum extension) it's still a pretty good fit. I'm 5'11 with a PBH of about 89. I can't recall what my daughter's PBH are, but they are about 5'7 and the saddle comes almost all the way down into the seat post so it fits them well. Remember I have the spring B17 Flyer which is taller than an unsprung saddle so I'm pretty sure your wife at 5'6 should also be able to fit on the 58. I tested both but just followed the guidelines on the Betty's page to do a quick assessment on whether it would fit my daughters, we were all within the printed ranges for the 58. If you want more exact measurements i can provide them. My oldest daughter's initial feedback was that she would like to have the handlebars a liitle closer to her (shorter stem) but that it was OK as it was. We'll see what her feedback is after we do our next S24O in Angel Island in Thanksgiving. She won't get to really ride it until then when she comes home from Berkeley. Maybe I can convince my youngest daughter to go on a ride with me... Isn't that ironic? There's a Betty in the house yet Dad still has to beg to have company on a ride... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Oh Betty !! Betty's are so cool looking thanks for the detailed photos. I'd love to get one too, but I see by the proportions that even the 62cm wouldn't be tall enough in the front end for me. (I use a 82cm saddle height) I thought these would have that, as they are intended for Albatross bars, but no such luck. I would buy one in heartbeat if they had a higher front. Maybe they'll adopt the Compact style of higher front ends on these some day, so one doesn't need a super tall stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Very cute. I can't wait until I get mines. Enjoy! On Oct 7, 11:26 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Here are the photos of the current state of the build of my new Betty Foy. Sadly, I've been traveling so much and then working so hard that I also got sick so the riding has suffered and especially the disposition to take new photos of both the new Atlantis and the new Betty. Seeing as the Atlantis is covered by a fine layer of dust from my commute to work on the Guadalupe Trail in San Jose and I haven't had a chancel to wash it properly for the photo shoot, I decided to post the photos of the Betty Foy I got supposedly for my daughters to ride with me, but that I fully intend to ride around town and perhaps even for my commute. I've just ridden it a few times mostly to tweak the drivetrain and saddle/handlebar fit, so it's still nice and clean. I already received the Honjo fenders but haven't had the chance to install them yet. Needless to say, both my daughters love it but haven't yet ridden it beyond just a quick ride around the backyard. They're also quite busy, one in college and the other one getting started on her applications. You can check the pictures here: *http://tinyurl.com/248qgyo* The build is as follows: - B17 Flyer pre-aged - Albatross Cro-Moly bars with RBW carved cork grips shellacked - Nitto 120mm stem - Shimano R770 Cantilever Brake Levers paired to Silver brakes - Shimano XT rapid rise rear derailer (9 speed) - Shimano 9 speed barend shifters - Shimano XTR 11-34 9 speed cassette - Shimano XTR 9 speed chain - Sugino XD-2 Quickbeam 175mm crankset 32/40 - Sneaker Pedals - Mark's Rack with medium basket - Nitto 26.8 S-38 seatpost (fits tightly but original 26.6 was too loose) - RBW included BB - 650B RBW budget Synergy wheelset with 650B x 37 Schwalbe Marathons for a puncture free ride Will add as soon as I can: - Tubus Cosmos rear rack - Honjo 50mm 650B Hammered fenders René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Oh, bummer. If the 62cm isn't tall enough for you in the front, I have little hope that I'd be happy on a 58; I ride with an 80cm saddle height and I like my bars *high*. Oh well. looks like we'll each need a Betty, the wife and I! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 8, 7:25 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Oh Betty !! Betty's are so cool looking thanks for the detailed photos. I'd love to get one too, but I see by the proportions that even the 62cm wouldn't be tall enough in the front end for me. (I use a 82cm saddle height) I thought these would have that, as they are intended for Albatross bars, but no such luck. I would buy one in heartbeat if they had a higher front. Maybe they'll adopt the Compact style of higher front ends on these some day, so one doesn't need a super tall stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Yeah Thomas . it appears the top of the head tube is about the same height as the top of the seat tube on the Betty maybe a touch higher. If you can extrapolate from there what you'd need in stem height you'll get a good idea how it may or may not work for you with a tall technomic. My view on fit may not be anyone else's here I don't know. I like a high bar too, but I don't really like technomic stems. On my 60cm. Bombadil I have a 130mm 90 degree stem that gets the bars 1-2 inches above my saddle. It has a much higher front end that allows me to use a stem of modest height. Man ... I'd really like a Betty though. . but my days of riding too small of frames are over. No more lurching over the bars for the tall guys! On Oct 8, 3:08 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, bummer. If the 62cm isn't tall enough for you in the front, I have little hope that I'd be happy on a 58; I ride with an 80cm saddle height and I like my bars *high*. Oh well. looks like we'll each need a Betty, the wife and I! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
If I was getting the Betty just for me, then I'd have gotten the 62 as it fits me better. However, save for the fact that I too would like to be able to raise the bars a bit higher and at this point cannot (Nitto stem is at maximum extension) it's still a pretty good fit. I'm 5'11 with a PBH of about 89. I can't recall what my daughter's PBH are, but they are about 5'7 and the saddle comes almost all the way down into the seat post so it fits them well. Remember I have the spring B17 Flyer which is taller than an unsprung saddle so I'm pretty sure your wife at 5'6 should also be able to fit on the 58. I tested both but just followed the guidelines on the Betty's page to do a quick assessment on whether it would fit my daughters, we were all within the printed ranges for the 58. If you want more exact measurements i can provide them. My oldest daughter's initial feedback was that she would like to have the handlebars a liitle closer to her (shorter stem) but that it was OK as it was. We'll see what her feedback is after we do our next S24O in Angel Island in Thanksgiving. She won't get to really ride it until then when she comes home from Berkeley. Maybe I can convince my youngest daughter to go on a ride with me... Isn't that ironic? There's a Betty in the house yet Dad still has to beg to have company on a ride... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Beautiful Betty! I think you all will enjoy her as much as I do mine :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
VERY nice! I'd ride that around town myself. Best, Alex On Oct 7, 2:05 pm, Crazy4Suki buckyy...@yahoo.com wrote: Beautiful Betty! I think you all will enjoy her as much as I do mine :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
I end up riding my wife's Glorius most of the time... luckily our standover is only 4cm different! On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:15 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: VERY nice! I'd ride that around town myself. Best, Alex On Oct 7, 2:05 pm, Crazy4Suki buckyy...@yahoo.com wrote: Beautiful Betty! I think you all will enjoy her as much as I do mine :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy... at last!
Hi! Your Betty is indeed a beautiful bike. And set up in the same general way I'd do it, I think. I like the idea of the Quickbeam crankset especially. Seems right for the bike's aesthetic *and* 'round-town intent. I'm curious... you got a 58cm, to fit both you and your daughters. What is your PBH and their PBHs (or height)? I'm contemplating a Betty at some future point. I have a 90 PBH and am 6' tall. In an ideal world, I'd probably ride the newly available 62cm Betty. But if there's a chance that the Betty could be my wife's main bike and that I could also ride it comfortably... well, that's an enticing scenario, even if it would require a change of stem/bar to prep for each rider. My wife's 5' 5 and normal-legged and -armed. Normally it'd never occur to me that she could ride a 58cm. But at least one person on the list who's even shorter than that indicated she was comfortable on the 58cm. So... I'm curious. Again... beautiful bike! Love to see it with rear rack and fenders! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 7, 1:26 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Here are the photos of the current state of the build of my new Betty Foy. Sadly, I've been traveling so much and then working so hard that I also got sick so the riding has suffered and especially the disposition to take new photos of both the new Atlantis and the new Betty. Seeing as the Atlantis is covered by a fine layer of dust from my commute to work on the Guadalupe Trail in San Jose and I haven't had a chancel to wash it properly for the photo shoot, I decided to post the photos of the Betty Foy I got supposedly for my daughters to ride with me, but that I fully intend to ride around town and perhaps even for my commute. I've just ridden it a few times mostly to tweak the drivetrain and saddle/handlebar fit, so it's still nice and clean. I already received the Honjo fenders but haven't had the chance to install them yet. Needless to say, both my daughters love it but haven't yet ridden it beyond just a quick ride around the backyard. They're also quite busy, one in college and the other one getting started on her applications. You can check the pictures here: *http://tinyurl.com/248qgyo* The build is as follows: - B17 Flyer pre-aged - Albatross Cro-Moly bars with RBW carved cork grips shellacked - Nitto 120mm stem - Shimano R770 Cantilever Brake Levers paired to Silver brakes - Shimano XT rapid rise rear derailer (9 speed) - Shimano 9 speed barend shifters - Shimano XTR 11-34 9 speed cassette - Shimano XTR 9 speed chain - Sugino XD-2 Quickbeam 175mm crankset 32/40 - Sneaker Pedals - Mark's Rack with medium basket - Nitto 26.8 S-38 seatpost (fits tightly but original 26.6 was too loose) - RBW included BB - 650B RBW budget Synergy wheelset with 650B x 37 Schwalbe Marathons for a puncture free ride Will add as soon as I can: - Tubus Cosmos rear rack - Honjo 50mm 650B Hammered fenders René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
