[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Bill Lindsay]

I've seen damaged decals with clear coat on top several times.  It's quite 
common.  Please don't test it out on your frame by sliding it back and 
forth in the clamp.  :)  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 8:48:32 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>
> These days, the decal has clear coat on top.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> "I have been hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill 
>> effects because:"
>>
>> The risk (to me) is the seat tube decal.  If somebody moves the frame in 
>> the clamp, the decal can get smeared.  When you are all alone in a workshop 
>> that's all on you, and I'm sure you are careful.  Some of us have worked at 
>> bike shops and more than once, I'd clamp a bike that way and another 
>> coworker would squeeze past and shift the bike and wreck a customer's seat 
>> tube decal.  That's not my coworker's fault.  That's my fault for clamping 
>> over the decal.  
>>
>> Just be careful.  It would be a shame to smear the decal on such a lovely 
>> machine.  :)
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 6:20:58 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>>>
>>> The frame angles are supposed to be 72 deg seat tube and 71.5 deg head 
>>> tube. The top tube angle is 6 deg.
>>>
>>> Not sure how much head tube extension there is - somewhere around an 
>>> inch. The steerer tube is threaded and I will fill whatever gap is not 
>>> taken up by the brake cable hanger with spacers - probably slip an orange 
>>> one in there somewhere. The brake cable hanger and 29.8 seat post shown are 
>>> temporary. I have a Paul Funky Monkey front hanger on the way as well as a 
>>> 30.0 seat post. I am going to use a MT-10 100 mm 25.4 Dirt Drop stem, 225 
>>> mm long for the initial setup with Rene Herse 460 mm Randonneur handlebars. 
>>> The long stem will allow me to get the bars up where I want them without 
>>> getting the stem expander into the threads. I am just shy of my 64th 
>>> birthday, so slammed stems are a thing of the past. I have been riding drop 
>>> bars for about 49 years and like the variety of hand positions available. I 
>>> am looking forward to being able to use the dirt drop stem and not having 
>>> the tradition "7" shaped stem poke me in the gut when I am stopped and 
>>> standing over the top tube.
>>>
>>> I got a 27.2 to 30.0 seat post spacer yesterday so I can hang by a 
>>> 27.2 seat post now for those who worry about such things. I have been 
>>> hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects because:
>>> 1. I don't over tighten the clamp
>>> 2. I keep the clamp grip surface clean
>>> 3. On Paramounts and Rivendells you cannot hang by the top tube due to 
>>> the off-center brake cable placement [note that the custom has a centered 
>>> brake cable (so does the Frank Jones Sr.)]
>>> 4. Due to my long torso and short legs, I tend to ride frames that are 
>>> too tall for me to get a longer top tube, thus there is not enough 
>>> seat post exposed to clamp.
>>>
>>> I have 20+ bikes including 10+ Rivendells and have fenders and racks and 
>>> triple cranks, etc. on many. I wanted the clean look of naked forks, seat 
>>> stays and dropouts from the racing bikes of my younger days. I describe the 
>>> bike as a old, fat man's racing bike. Grant would not allow me to chrome 
>>> the forks and stays or even the dropout faces. Fenders don't do much good 
>>> in Florida when it rains anyway. I have saddlebag and handle bar bags when 
>>> I need to carry stuff. And yes, I must confess to having plaid matching 
>>> Nigel Smythe bags. I even have a tiny center pull mounted rack with a ecru 
>>> colored Ostrich bag that matches the cream headtube fairly well. haven't 
>>> come up with cream colored cables yet.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[lconley]

These days, the decal has clear coat on top.

Laing

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "I have been hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill 
> effects because:"
>
> The risk (to me) is the seat tube decal.  If somebody moves the frame in 
> the clamp, the decal can get smeared.  When you are all alone in a workshop 
> that's all on you, and I'm sure you are careful.  Some of us have worked at 
> bike shops and more than once, I'd clamp a bike that way and another 
> coworker would squeeze past and shift the bike and wreck a customer's seat 
> tube decal.  That's not my coworker's fault.  That's my fault for clamping 
> over the decal.  
>
> Just be careful.  It would be a shame to smear the decal on such a lovely 
> machine.  :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 6:20:58 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>>
>> The frame angles are supposed to be 72 deg seat tube and 71.5 deg head 
>> tube. The top tube angle is 6 deg.
>>
>> Not sure how much head tube extension there is - somewhere around an 
>> inch. The steerer tube is threaded and I will fill whatever gap is not 
>> taken up by the brake cable hanger with spacers - probably slip an orange 
>> one in there somewhere. The brake cable hanger and 29.8 seat post shown are 
>> temporary. I have a Paul Funky Monkey front hanger on the way as well as a 
>> 30.0 seat post. I am going to use a MT-10 100 mm 25.4 Dirt Drop stem, 225 
>> mm long for the initial setup with Rene Herse 460 mm Randonneur handlebars. 
>> The long stem will allow me to get the bars up where I want them without 
>> getting the stem expander into the threads. I am just shy of my 64th 
>> birthday, so slammed stems are a thing of the past. I have been riding drop 
>> bars for about 49 years and like the variety of hand positions available. I 
>> am looking forward to being able to use the dirt drop stem and not having 
>> the tradition "7" shaped stem poke me in the gut when I am stopped and 
>> standing over the top tube.
>>
>> I got a 27.2 to 30.0 seat post spacer yesterday so I can hang by a 
>> 27.2 seat post now for those who worry about such things. I have been 
>> hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects because:
>> 1. I don't over tighten the clamp
>> 2. I keep the clamp grip surface clean
>> 3. On Paramounts and Rivendells you cannot hang by the top tube due to 
>> the off-center brake cable placement [note that the custom has a centered 
>> brake cable (so does the Frank Jones Sr.)]
>> 4. Due to my long torso and short legs, I tend to ride frames that are 
>> too tall for me to get a longer top tube, thus there is not enough 
>> seat post exposed to clamp.
>>
>> I have 20+ bikes including 10+ Rivendells and have fenders and racks and 
>> triple cranks, etc. on many. I wanted the clean look of naked forks, seat 
>> stays and dropouts from the racing bikes of my younger days. I describe the 
>> bike as a old, fat man's racing bike. Grant would not allow me to chrome 
>> the forks and stays or even the dropout faces. Fenders don't do much good 
>> in Florida when it rains anyway. I have saddlebag and handle bar bags when 
>> I need to carry stuff. And yes, I must confess to having plaid matching 
>> Nigel Smythe bags. I even have a tiny center pull mounted rack with a ecru 
>> colored Ostrich bag that matches the cream headtube fairly well. haven't 
>> come up with cream colored cables yet.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Bill Lindsay]

"I have been hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects 
because:"

The risk (to me) is the seat tube decal.  If somebody moves the frame in 
the clamp, the decal can get smeared.  When you are all alone in a workshop 
that's all on you, and I'm sure you are careful.  Some of us have worked at 
bike shops and more than once, I'd clamp a bike that way and another 
coworker would squeeze past and shift the bike and wreck a customer's seat 
tube decal.  That's not my coworker's fault.  That's my fault for clamping 
over the decal.  

Just be careful.  It would be a shame to smear the decal on such a lovely 
machine.  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 6:20:58 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>
> The frame angles are supposed to be 72 deg seat tube and 71.5 deg head 
> tube. The top tube angle is 6 deg.
>
> Not sure how much head tube extension there is - somewhere around an inch. 
> The steerer tube is threaded and I will fill whatever gap is not taken up 
> by the brake cable hanger with spacers - probably slip an orange one in 
> there somewhere. The brake cable hanger and 29.8 seat post shown are 
> temporary. I have a Paul Funky Monkey front hanger on the way as well as a 
> 30.0 seat post. I am going to use a MT-10 100 mm 25.4 Dirt Drop stem, 225 
> mm long for the initial setup with Rene Herse 460 mm Randonneur handlebars. 
> The long stem will allow me to get the bars up where I want them without 
> getting the stem expander into the threads. I am just shy of my 64th 
> birthday, so slammed stems are a thing of the past. I have been riding drop 
> bars for about 49 years and like the variety of hand positions available. I 
> am looking forward to being able to use the dirt drop stem and not having 
> the tradition "7" shaped stem poke me in the gut when I am stopped and 
> standing over the top tube.
>
> I got a 27.2 to 30.0 seat post spacer yesterday so I can hang by a 
> 27.2 seat post now for those who worry about such things. I have been 
> hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects because:
> 1. I don't over tighten the clamp
> 2. I keep the clamp grip surface clean
> 3. On Paramounts and Rivendells you cannot hang by the top tube due to the 
> off-center brake cable placement [note that the custom has a centered brake 
> cable (so does the Frank Jones Sr.)]
> 4. Due to my long torso and short legs, I tend to ride frames that are too 
> tall for me to get a longer top tube, thus there is not enough seat post 
> exposed to clamp.
>
> I have 20+ bikes including 10+ Rivendells and have fenders and racks and 
> triple cranks, etc. on many. I wanted the clean look of naked forks, seat 
> stays and dropouts from the racing bikes of my younger days. I describe the 
> bike as a old, fat man's racing bike. Grant would not allow me to chrome 
> the forks and stays or even the dropout faces. Fenders don't do much good 
> in Florida when it rains anyway. I have saddlebag and handle bar bags when 
> I need to carry stuff. And yes, I must confess to having plaid matching 
> Nigel Smythe bags. I even have a tiny center pull mounted rack with a ecru 
> colored Ostrich bag that matches the cream headtube fairly well. haven't 
> come up with cream colored cables yet.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Chris L]

Can't wait to see this built up!

If I did a custom Rivendell, it would be similar.  Stripped down, stout 
frameset with a long top tube.  The major differences would be cantilever 
studs and much shorter chainstays.  



On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 1:25:03 PM UTC-6, lconley wrote:
>
> My custom arrived last Wednesday.
>
> I have been slowly assembling it, but first I weighed it and the coated 
> the inside of the tubes with Boeshield.
>
> Not only did I want a custom, I need a custom. I am 6' tall with an 83 PBH 
> and weigh 280 lbs. No more extra long stems and setback seat posts on this 
> one.
>
> The seat tube is 53 C-to-top, the effective top tube is 60 C-to-C as best 
> I can measure. All of the frame tubes are 31.8 OD. The chains stays are 55. 
> I specified no provisions for fenders or racks and there are none - no 
> dropout eyelets, no fork or stay fittings, no mounting holes in the chain 
> stay or seat stay bridges. There are Rene Herse centerpull brake braze-ons.
>
> The frame (bare except for seat binder bolt and rear brake adjuster in the 
> seat stay mounted cable stop) weighs 5 lb. 13 oz. and the fork weighs 29.2 
> oz. for a total weight of 7 lb. 10 oz. The IRD bottom roller bearing 
> headset weighs 4.2 oz. for an assembled frame and fork of 7 lb. 10 oz. This 
> is less than 1 lb. heavier than my 56 cm 1971 Gitane Tour de France - a 
> classic Reynolds 531 racing bike.
>
> One surprise was the 30.0 seat post - not an easy item to find in silver 
> and I really don't want to use an adapter long term. I found an NOS 
> Campagnolo Icarus 30.0 seat post from the early 90s in silver. Just have to 
> wait for it to get here from Italy.
>
> I need get to work on building the wheels - 650B.
>
> [image: IMG_0558.jpg]
>
> Derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s because they are silver, the front 
> derailleur has an integral clamp that fits the seat tube with no spacer and 
> NOS units were very available at very reasonable prices. Crank is a Rene 
> Herse 11 speed, 26-42 and the rear cassette will be a 12-28 Dura Ace 11 sp. 
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[RonaTD]

I don’t know which to admire more ... the bike or the workshop !

Laing - your taste and mine in bikes appear to be very closely aligned. 
Please let us know how well the Compass centerpull brakes clear the 48mm 
tires (I’m concerned about getting the tire through them when installing 
the wheel.)

[image: IMG_0558.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[lconley]

The frame angles are supposed to be 72 deg seat tube and 71.5 deg head 
tube. The top tube angle is 6 deg.

Not sure how much head tube extension there is - somewhere around an inch. 
The steerer tube is threaded and I will fill whatever gap is not taken up 
by the brake cable hanger with spacers - probably slip an orange one in 
there somewhere. The brake cable hanger and 29.8 seat post shown are 
temporary. I have a Paul Funky Monkey front hanger on the way as well as a 
30.0 seat post. I am going to use a MT-10 100 mm 25.4 Dirt Drop stem, 225 
mm long for the initial setup with Rene Herse 460 mm Randonneur handlebars. 
The long stem will allow me to get the bars up where I want them without 
getting the stem expander into the threads. I am just shy of my 64th 
birthday, so slammed stems are a thing of the past. I have been riding drop 
bars for about 49 years and like the variety of hand positions available. I 
am looking forward to being able to use the dirt drop stem and not having 
the tradition "7" shaped stem poke me in the gut when I am stopped and 
standing over the top tube.

I got a 27.2 to 30.0 seat post spacer yesterday so I can hang by a 
27.2 seat post now for those who worry about such things. I have been 
hanging bikes from the seat tube for years with no ill effects because:
1. I don't over tighten the clamp
2. I keep the clamp grip surface clean
3. On Paramounts and Rivendells you cannot hang by the top tube due to the 
off-center brake cable placement [note that the custom has a centered brake 
cable (so does the Frank Jones Sr.)]
4. Due to my long torso and short legs, I tend to ride frames that are too 
tall for me to get a longer top tube, thus there is not enough seat post 
exposed to clamp.

I have 20+ bikes including 10+ Rivendells and have fenders and racks and 
triple cranks, etc. on many. I wanted the clean look of naked forks, seat 
stays and dropouts from the racing bikes of my younger days. I describe the 
bike as a old, fat man's racing bike. Grant would not allow me to chrome 
the forks and stays or even the dropout faces. Fenders don't do much good 
in Florida when it rains anyway. I have saddlebag and handle bar bags when 
I need to carry stuff. And yes, I must confess to having plaid matching 
Nigel Smythe bags. I even have a tiny center pull mounted rack with a ecru 
colored Ostrich bag that matches the cream headtube fairly well. haven't 
come up with cream colored cables yet.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Rob Kristoff]

Laing, 
gorgeous custom and I love the use of Campy. I'm interested to hear why you 
chose to not have any rack or fender mounting. Weight? Weatherproofing?

Rob

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Laing

Great report and very nice looking custom.  3 questions:
* What are the frame angles?
* How much head tube extension is there?  Looks like more than 1"
* Are you cutting the steerer tube flush at the top or are you going to 
extend the steerer tube and use spacers?

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Elton Lance]

And the work stand clamp is on the seat tube?

Not generally considered good form. Just sayin. . .

Elton Lance
Vero Beach, FL





> On Mar 2, 2020, at 2:44 PM, lconley  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the shifters are on the headtube.
> 
> The initial tires will be 650B x 48 Compass Switchback Hills because I have 
> them already. I may also try some 650B x 41.5 Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin Greens 
> that I also have.
> 
> Laing
> 
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
> Are those shifter bosses on the headtube? Wonderfully nutty.
> 
> What size tires will you be running?
> 
> KJ
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 11:25:03 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
> My custom arrived last Wednesday.
> 
> I have been slowly assembling it, but first I weighed it and the coated the 
> inside of the tubes with Boeshield.
> 
> Not only did I want a custom, I need a custom. I am 6' tall with an 83 PBH 
> and weigh 280 lbs. No more extra long stems and setback seat posts on this 
> one.
> 
> The seat tube is 53 C-to-top, the effective top tube is 60 C-to-C as best I 
> can measure. All of the frame tubes are 31.8 OD. The chains stays are 55. I 
> specified no provisions for fenders or racks and there are none - no dropout 
> eyelets, no fork or stay fittings, no mounting holes in the chain stay or 
> seat stay bridges. There are Rene Herse centerpull brake braze-ons.
> 
> The frame (bare except for seat binder bolt and rear brake adjuster in the 
> seat stay mounted cable stop) weighs 5 lb. 13 oz. and the fork weighs 29.2 
> oz. for a total weight of 7 lb. 10 oz. The IRD bottom roller bearing headset 
> weighs 4.2 oz. for an assembled frame and fork of 7 lb. 10 oz. This is less 
> than 1 lb. heavier than my 56 cm 1971 Gitane Tour de France - a classic 
> Reynolds 531 racing bike.
> 
> One surprise was the 30.0 seat post - not an easy item to find in silver and 
> I really don't want to use an adapter long term. I found an NOS Campagnolo 
> Icarus 30.0 seat post from the early 90s in silver. Just have to wait for it 
> to get here from Italy.
> 
> I need get to work on building the wheels - 650B.
> 
> 
> 
> Derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s because they are silver, the front 
> derailleur has an integral clamp that fits the seat tube with no spacer and 
> NOS units were very available at very reasonable prices. Crank is a Rene 
> Herse 11 speed, 26-42 and the rear cassette will be a 12-28 Dura Ace 11 sp.
> 
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
> 
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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is really beautiful bike.  I look forward to seeing the completed 
project.

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[lconley]

Yes, the shifters are on the headtube.

The initial tires will be 650B x 48 Compass Switchback Hills because I have 
them already. I may also try some 650B x 41.5 Rivendell Fatty Rumpkin 
Greens that I also have.

Laing

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

> Are those shifter bosses on the headtube? Wonderfully nutty.
>
> What size tires will you be running?
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 11:25:03 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>>
>> My custom arrived last Wednesday.
>>
>> I have been slowly assembling it, but first I weighed it and the coated 
>> the inside of the tubes with Boeshield.
>>
>> Not only did I want a custom, I need a custom. I am 6' tall with an 83 
>> PBH and weigh 280 lbs. No more extra long stems and setback seat posts on 
>> this one.
>>
>> The seat tube is 53 C-to-top, the effective top tube is 60 C-to-C as best 
>> I can measure. All of the frame tubes are 31.8 OD. The chains stays are 55. 
>> I specified no provisions for fenders or racks and there are none - no 
>> dropout eyelets, no fork or stay fittings, no mounting holes in the chain 
>> stay or seat stay bridges. There are Rene Herse centerpull brake braze-ons.
>>
>> The frame (bare except for seat binder bolt and rear brake adjuster in 
>> the seat stay mounted cable stop) weighs 5 lb. 13 oz. and the fork weighs 
>> 29.2 oz. for a total weight of 7 lb. 10 oz. The IRD bottom roller bearing 
>> headset weighs 4.2 oz. for an assembled frame and fork of 7 lb. 10 oz. This 
>> is less than 1 lb. heavier than my 56 cm 1971 Gitane Tour de France - a 
>> classic Reynolds 531 racing bike.
>>
>> One surprise was the 30.0 seat post - not an easy item to find in silver 
>> and I really don't want to use an adapter long term. I found an NOS 
>> Campagnolo Icarus 30.0 seat post from the early 90s in silver. Just have to 
>> wait for it to get here from Italy.
>>
>> I need get to work on building the wheels - 650B.
>>
>> [image: IMG_0558.jpg]
>>
>> Derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s because they are silver, the front 
>> derailleur has an integral clamp that fits the seat tube with no spacer and 
>> NOS units were very available at very reasonable prices. Crank is a Rene 
>> Herse 11 speed, 26-42 and the rear cassette will be a 12-28 Dura Ace 11 sp. 
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Joe Bernard]

That's so pretty. I love the idea of silver Athena derailers, that's a nice 
touch. Also, nice Guv'nor!

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Kieran J]

Are those shifter bosses on the headtube? Wonderfully nutty.

What size tires will you be running?

KJ


On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 11:25:03 AM UTC-8, lconley wrote:
>
> My custom arrived last Wednesday.
>
> I have been slowly assembling it, but first I weighed it and the coated 
> the inside of the tubes with Boeshield.
>
> Not only did I want a custom, I need a custom. I am 6' tall with an 83 PBH 
> and weigh 280 lbs. No more extra long stems and setback seat posts on this 
> one.
>
> The seat tube is 53 C-to-top, the effective top tube is 60 C-to-C as best 
> I can measure. All of the frame tubes are 31.8 OD. The chains stays are 55. 
> I specified no provisions for fenders or racks and there are none - no 
> dropout eyelets, no fork or stay fittings, no mounting holes in the chain 
> stay or seat stay bridges. There are Rene Herse centerpull brake braze-ons.
>
> The frame (bare except for seat binder bolt and rear brake adjuster in the 
> seat stay mounted cable stop) weighs 5 lb. 13 oz. and the fork weighs 29.2 
> oz. for a total weight of 7 lb. 10 oz. The IRD bottom roller bearing 
> headset weighs 4.2 oz. for an assembled frame and fork of 7 lb. 10 oz. This 
> is less than 1 lb. heavier than my 56 cm 1971 Gitane Tour de France - a 
> classic Reynolds 531 racing bike.
>
> One surprise was the 30.0 seat post - not an easy item to find in silver 
> and I really don't want to use an adapter long term. I found an NOS 
> Campagnolo Icarus 30.0 seat post from the early 90s in silver. Just have to 
> wait for it to get here from Italy.
>
> I need get to work on building the wheels - 650B.
>
> [image: IMG_0558.jpg]
>
> Derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s because they are silver, the front 
> derailleur has an integral clamp that fits the seat tube with no spacer and 
> NOS units were very available at very reasonable prices. Crank is a Rene 
> Herse 11 speed, 26-42 and the rear cassette will be a 12-28 Dura Ace 11 sp. 
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[lconley]

Total weight of 7 lb. 14 oz.

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 2:25:03 PM UTC-5, lconley wrote:
>
> My custom arrived last Wednesday.
>
> I have been slowly assembling it, but first I weighed it and the coated 
> the inside of the tubes with Boeshield.
>
> Not only did I want a custom, I need a custom. I am 6' tall with an 83 PBH 
> and weigh 280 lbs. No more extra long stems and setback seat posts on this 
> one.
>
> The seat tube is 53 C-to-top, the effective top tube is 60 C-to-C as best 
> I can measure. All of the frame tubes are 31.8 OD. The chains stays are 55. 
> I specified no provisions for fenders or racks and there are none - no 
> dropout eyelets, no fork or stay fittings, no mounting holes in the chain 
> stay or seat stay bridges. There are Rene Herse centerpull brake braze-ons.
>
> The frame (bare except for seat binder bolt and rear brake adjuster in the 
> seat stay mounted cable stop) weighs 5 lb. 13 oz. and the fork weighs 29.2 
> oz. for a total weight of 7 lb. 10 oz. The IRD bottom roller bearing 
> headset weighs 4.2 oz. for an assembled frame and fork of 7 lb. 10 oz. This 
> is less than 1 lb. heavier than my 56 cm 1971 Gitane Tour de France - a 
> classic Reynolds 531 racing bike.
>
> One surprise was the 30.0 seat post - not an easy item to find in silver 
> and I really don't want to use an adapter long term. I found an NOS 
> Campagnolo Icarus 30.0 seat post from the early 90s in silver. Just have to 
> wait for it to get here from Italy.
>
> I need get to work on building the wheels - 650B.
>
> [image: IMG_0558.jpg]
>
> Derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s because they are silver, the front 
> derailleur has an integral clamp that fits the seat tube with no spacer and 
> NOS units were very available at very reasonable prices. Crank is a Rene 
> Herse 11 speed, 26-42 and the rear cassette will be a 12-28 Dura Ace 11 sp. 
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>

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