[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Lance Terry]

I run the 130's on my Atlantis and Sam. I just tighten them down. I don't 
think you have to worry about it with steel, at least I don't. 
Lance

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 8:25:47 AM UTC-6 Erik Wright wrote:

> I'm looking at getting a set of these wheels in 700c for my Sam Hillborne, 
> but they're 130mm spacing without the ability to add spacers and re-dish 
> the wheel. The Hillborne's spacing is 135mm.
>
> I've put 130mm wheels in the Hillborne before and just tightened down the 
> QR, but only for a short period of time. Any downsides to this as a long 
> term solution with this wheelset? I use friction shifting, so I don't have 
> to worry much about slight derailleur alignment issues.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:06:05 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Buy the rims and have a good wheelbuilder build them up for you!  I've 
>> got a Crust bike, and I'm thinking I'll buy some 700c rims and rebuild my 
>> wheelset.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:48:13 AM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, I just saw Russ from Path Less Pedaled gave the wheels a quick 
>>> positive review when he tried them on the Crust Lightning Bolt.
>>>
>>> He basically says they're affordable, light-ish, and it's nice to have 
>>> another rim-brake, tubeless compatible option out there.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/Q2vU_p1bNZg?t=90
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards 
 getting a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true 
 them up early.

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
> different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got 
> them. 
> I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
> liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
> tubeless with no problems either. 
> Lance
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
>> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to 
>> mention 
>> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
>> wheelset a bunch.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite 
>>> a bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on 
>>> another 
>>> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>>>
>>> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 
>>> 100 miles on them. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and 
 they’re just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b 
 size, 

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland 
 wrote:

> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put 
> them through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>
> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel 
> (nothing super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I 
> ride my 
> bikes kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque 
> efforts. 
> I'm never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
> suspension bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out 
> of true 
> rather quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a 
> little 
> touch true to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles 
> later), they went out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack 
> of 
> experience truing wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the 
> rim 
> is, and/or how hard i'm pushing them. 
>
> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
> times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true 
> wheels 
> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a 
> shop to 
> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a 
> trusted 
> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out 
> the 
> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, 
> but it's 
> all good. 
>
> Any

[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Erik Wright]

I'm looking at getting a set of these wheels in 700c for my Sam Hillborne, 
but they're 130mm spacing without the ability to add spacers and re-dish 
the wheel. The Hillborne's spacing is 135mm.

I've put 130mm wheels in the Hillborne before and just tightened down the 
QR, but only for a short period of time. Any downsides to this as a long 
term solution with this wheelset? I use friction shifting, so I don't have 
to worry much about slight derailleur alignment issues.

Erik, Philly

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:06:05 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Buy the rims and have a good wheelbuilder build them up for you!  I've got 
> a Crust bike, and I'm thinking I'll buy some 700c rims and rebuild my 
> wheelset.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:48:13 AM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>
>> BTW, I just saw Russ from Path Less Pedaled gave the wheels a quick 
>> positive review when he tried them on the Crust Lightning Bolt.
>>
>> He basically says they're affordable, light-ish, and it's nice to have 
>> another rim-brake, tubeless compatible option out there.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Q2vU_p1bNZg?t=90
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards 
>>> getting a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true 
>>> them up early.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
 different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got 
 them. 
 I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
 liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
 tubeless with no problems either. 
 Lance

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to 
> mention 
> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
> wheelset a bunch.
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite 
>> a bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
>> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>>
>> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 
>> 100 miles on them. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and 
>>> they’re just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b 
>>> size, 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put 
 them through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 

 I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
 super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my 
 bikes 
 kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. 
 I'm 
 never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
 suspension 
 bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true 
 rather 
 quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch 
 true 
 to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they 
 went 
 out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience 
 truing 
 wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how 
 hard 
 i'm pushing them. 

 An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
 times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true 
 wheels 
 appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a 
 shop to 
 do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a 
 trusted 
 wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
 crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out 
 the 
 internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but 
 it's 
 all good. 

 Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how 
 quickly they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm 
 not a 
 wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I 
 ever 
 buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a

[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Bill Lindsay]

Buy the rims and have a good wheelbuilder build them up for you!  I've got 
a Crust bike, and I'm thinking I'll buy some 700c rims and rebuild my 
wheelset.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:48:13 AM UTC-7 Slin wrote:

> BTW, I just saw Russ from Path Less Pedaled gave the wheels a quick 
> positive review when he tried them on the Crust Lightning Bolt.
>
> He basically says they're affordable, light-ish, and it's nice to have 
> another rim-brake, tubeless compatible option out there.
>
> https://youtu.be/Q2vU_p1bNZg?t=90
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards 
>> getting a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true 
>> them up early.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
>>> different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got them. 
>>> I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
>>> liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
>>> tubeless with no problems either. 
>>> Lance
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
 louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to 
 mention 
 was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
 wheelset a bunch.

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:

> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite a 
> bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>
> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 
> 100 miles on them. 
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and 
>> they’re just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b 
>> size, 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>>
>>> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
>>> through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>>>
>>> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
>>> super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my 
>>> bikes 
>>> kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm 
>>> never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
>>> suspension 
>>> bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather 
>>> quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch 
>>> true 
>>> to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they 
>>> went 
>>> out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience 
>>> truing 
>>> wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how 
>>> hard 
>>> i'm pushing them. 
>>>
>>> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
>>> times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true 
>>> wheels 
>>> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop 
>>> to 
>>> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a 
>>> trusted 
>>> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
>>> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out 
>>> the 
>>> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but 
>>> it's 
>>> all good. 
>>>
>>> Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how 
>>> quickly they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not 
>>> a 
>>> wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I 
>>> ever 
>>> buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend 
>>> says, 
>>> strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? 
 I'm curious about them.

 S

 On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
> designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
> Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
> lighter Rivendell builds.
>
> Anywho, th

[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Slin]

BTW, I just saw Russ from Path Less Pedaled gave the wheels a quick 
positive review when he tried them on the Crust Lightning Bolt.

He basically says they're affordable, light-ish, and it's nice to have 
another rim-brake, tubeless compatible option out there.

https://youtu.be/Q2vU_p1bNZg?t=90

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:

> Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards getting 
> a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true them up 
> early.
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
>> different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got them. 
>> I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
>> liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
>> tubeless with no problems either. 
>> Lance
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
>>> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to mention 
>>> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
>>> wheelset a bunch.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>>>
 I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite a 
 bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
 bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 

 I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 
 100 miles on them. 

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and 
> they’re just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b 
> size, 
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
>> through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>>
>> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
>> super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes 
>> kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm 
>> never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
>> suspension 
>> bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather 
>> quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch 
>> true 
>> to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they 
>> went 
>> out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing 
>> wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how 
>> hard 
>> i'm pushing them. 
>>
>> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
>> times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true 
>> wheels 
>> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop 
>> to 
>> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a 
>> trusted 
>> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
>> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out 
>> the 
>> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but 
>> it's 
>> all good. 
>>
>> Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how 
>> quickly they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not 
>> a 
>> wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I 
>> ever 
>> buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
>> strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? 
>>> I'm curious about them.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 Heyo,

 I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
 designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
 Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
 lighter Rivendell builds.

 Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather 
 than part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any 
 drilling you want, as long as its 32h.

 Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
 

 Cheers,
 Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthqua

[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Slin]

Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards getting 
a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true them up 
early.

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
> different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got them. 
> I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
> liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
> tubeless with no problems either. 
> Lance
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
>> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to mention 
>> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
>> wheelset a bunch.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite a 
>>> bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
>>> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>>>
>>> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 100 
>>> miles on them. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and they’re 
 just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b size, 

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
> through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>
> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
> super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes 
> kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm 
> never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
> suspension 
> bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather 
> quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch 
> true 
> to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they 
> went 
> out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing 
> wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how 
> hard 
> i'm pushing them. 
>
> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
> times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true wheels 
> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop 
> to 
> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a 
> trusted 
> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out the 
> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but 
> it's 
> all good. 
>
> Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how 
> quickly they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not a 
> wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I ever 
> buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
> strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
>> curious about them.
>>
>> S
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Heyo,
>>>
>>> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
>>> designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
>>> Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
>>> lighter Rivendell builds.
>>>
>>> Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather 
>>> than part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any 
>>> drilling you want, as long as its 32h.
>>>
>>> Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Lance Terry]

I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got them. 
I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
tubeless with no problems either. 
Lance

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to mention 
> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
> wheelset a bunch.
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite a 
>> bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
>> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>>
>> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 100 
>> miles on them. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and they’re 
>>> just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b size, 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>>>
 I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
 through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 

 I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
 super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes 
 kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm 
 never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front suspension 
 bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather 
 quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch true 
 to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they 
 went 
 out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing 
 wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how 
 hard 
 i'm pushing them. 

 An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
 times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true wheels 
 appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop to 
 do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a trusted 
 wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
 crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out the 
 internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but 
 it's 
 all good. 

 Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how quickly 
 they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not a 
 wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I ever 
 buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
 strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
 On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:

> Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
> curious about them.
>
> S
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Heyo,
>>
>> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
>> designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
>> Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
>> lighter Rivendell builds.
>>
>> Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather 
>> than part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any 
>> drilling you want, as long as its 32h.
>>
>> Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
>> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento
>>
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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Guy LeVan]

You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to mention 
was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
wheelset a bunch.

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:

> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite a 
> bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>
> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 100 
> miles on them. 
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and they’re 
>> just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b size, 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>>
>>> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
>>> through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>>>
>>> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
>>> super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes 
>>> kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm 
>>> never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front suspension 
>>> bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather 
>>> quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch true 
>>> to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they went 
>>> out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing 
>>> wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how hard 
>>> i'm pushing them. 
>>>
>>> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 times 
>>> before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true wheels 
>>> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop to 
>>> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a trusted 
>>> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
>>> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out the 
>>> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but it's 
>>> all good. 
>>>
>>> Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how quickly 
>>> they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not a 
>>> wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I ever 
>>> buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
>>> strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
 curious about them.

 S

 On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
> designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
> Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
> lighter Rivendell builds.
>
> Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather 
> than part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any 
> drilling you want, as long as its 32h.
>
> Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento
>


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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Drew Henson]

I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite a bit. 
rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another bike. I 
really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 

I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 100 
miles on them. 

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and they’re 
> just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b size, 
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
>> through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>>
>> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing super 
>> rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes kind of 
>> hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm never 
>> riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front suspension bike 
>> on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather quickly 
>> which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch true to keep 
>> them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they went out of 
>> true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing wheels, 
>> it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how hard i'm 
>> pushing them. 
>>
>> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 times 
>> before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true wheels 
>> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop to 
>> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a trusted 
>> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
>> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out the 
>> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but it's 
>> all good. 
>>
>> Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how quickly 
>> they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not a 
>> wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I ever 
>> buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
>> strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
>>> curious about them.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 Heyo,

 I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
 designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
 Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
 lighter Rivendell builds.

 Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather than 
 part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any drilling 
 you 
 want, as long as its 32h.

 Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
 

 Cheers,
 Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Guy LeVan]

I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and they’re 
just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b size, 

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
> through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>
> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing super 
> rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes kind of 
> hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm never 
> riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front suspension bike 
> on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather quickly 
> which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch true to keep 
> them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they went out of 
> true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing wheels, 
> it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how hard i'm 
> pushing them. 
>
> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 times 
> before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true wheels 
> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop to 
> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a trusted 
> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out the 
> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but it's 
> all good. 
>
> Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how quickly 
> they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not a 
> wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I ever 
> buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
> strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
>> curious about them.
>>
>> S
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Heyo,
>>>
>>> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently 
>>> designed some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the 
>>> Pacenti Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for 
>>> lighter Rivendell builds.
>>>
>>> Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather than 
>>> part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any drilling you 
>>> want, as long as its 32h.
>>>
>>> Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Nikko in Oakland]

I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put them 
through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 

I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing super 
rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my bikes kind of 
hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. I'm never 
riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front suspension bike 
on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true rather quickly 
which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch true to keep 
them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they went out of 
true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience truing wheels, 
it being machine-built wheel, how light the rim is, and/or how hard i'm 
pushing them. 

An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 times 
before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true wheels 
appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a shop to 
do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a trusted 
wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out the 
internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, but it's 
all good. 

Anyways, the wheels are light and really responsive, I like how quickly 
they spin up, and they're priced really well. But since I'm not a 
wheelbuilder-type, I think this is the last machine-built wheelset I ever 
buy. The wheels were pretty, light, and cheap-ish. But as a friend says, 
strong, light, cheap; you can only pick two. 
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:

> Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
> curious about them.
>
> S
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Heyo,
>>
>> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently designed 
>> some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the Pacenti 
>> Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for lighter 
>> Rivendell builds.
>>
>> Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather than 
>> part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any drilling you 
>> want, as long as its 32h.
>>
>> Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
>> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Slin]

Does anyone have any on-bike experience with the Crust wheelsets? I'm 
curious about them.

S

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:53:16 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> I think this has been brought up in the past, but Crust recently designed 
> some new 650b wheels/rims that are a good alternative to the Pacenti 
> Brevets and Velocity Quills that serve as excellent rims for lighter 
> Rivendell builds.
>
> Anywho, they are now available to purchase as separate rims rather than 
> part of the wheelset...the only downside being you can get any drilling you 
> want, as long as its 32h.
>
> Crust Rim Brake Rims – Crust Bikes 
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in "subsiding, but not from earthquakes" in Sacramento
>

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