[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-18 Thread Bob Lovejoy
That is an excellent looking bike!  Congrats on the new ride...  Wow!

Bob

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread lconley
Don't tell anyone but when the seat post on my Bombadil would not fit 
easily, I took out the brake cylinder hone and enlarged the seat tube a 
bit. A 27.0 seat post was not an option as I was using the Nitto lugged 
setback seat post - with my long body and short legs, it was the only way 
the bike would fit with the Bullmooses that I was using at the time. The 
seat post is a little smaller than 27.2 so I was taking less than 0.1 mm of 
tube thickness away at the top of the seat tube. I did a lot of honing and 
fitting and honing and fitting till I could just get the seat post in deep 
enough - it is still very, very tight. My Guv'nor also takes a 27.0 and I 
have another Nitto lugged seat post that would look so right on the 
Guv'nor, but I haven't taken out the brake hone yet.

At least you can get 26.8 seat posts in Nitto S-83 now. I really prefer two 
bolt seat posts so I can adjust them bit by bit to get the saddle tilt just 
right - I got spoiled by my Campy two bolt back in 75.

Laing


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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread drew
Yes, correct. 
It has a seat stay cross bar thing with fender mounts. there is no need for 
an actual brake bridge, because either canti's or v's dont need that. 
Atlanti used to have a curved brake cable stop that went across the 
stays (which i think is what eric was referring to)  and a bridge for 
mounting fenders. now they just have the bridge. 

>
I asked about the cable stop when i ordered, because i specifically didn't 
want it and was told that it is not standard anymore. i'd imagine that you 
could add it as a braze on. 

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread John G.
My Atlantis (built last Jan) has a 27.0 seatpost.

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Eric
Anyone know if the the rear cable brake bridge is an option?

For a $2500 stock frame I'd hope so, especially if you'd want to run 
cantis. 

After all, they are featured in the photos of the Atlanti featured on 
Rivbike. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I may be mistaken but I get the impression Drew and Eric are only referring 
to the sometimes extra brazed on canti brake cable hanger/cable stop but 
not the bridge itself, right?

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 1:39:32 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> And people who use V brakes don't have fenders that need support at the 
> brake bridge?   I wasn't aware of that.  I've several 
> cantileverbrake-equipped bicycles (they don't need brake bridges either) 
> that have fenders mounted. 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 01:35 PM, drew wrote: 
> > Verified with Riv that all cantilever models are now 28.6.  They don't 
> > put rear brake bridges on anymore because enough people are using 
> > V-brakes, which is what i'll be doing. 
> > -- 
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar 
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
And people who use V brakes don't have fenders that need support at the 
brake bridge?   I wasn't aware of that.  I've several 
cantileverbrake-equipped bicycles (they don't need brake bridges either) 
that have fenders mounted.



On 12/13/2017 01:35 PM, drew wrote:
Verified with Riv that all cantilever models are now 28.6.  They don't 
put rear brake bridges on anymore because enough people are using 
V-brakes, which is what i'll be doing.

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread drew
Verified with Riv that all cantilever models are now 28.6.  They don't put 
rear brake bridges on anymore because enough people are using V-brakes, 
which is what i'll be doing. 

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Paul Choi
Drew - looks great in that color. Post some more pictures when the build is 
done. 

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Eric
Does this size not permit a rear brake cable bridge?  

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Philip Kim
awesome!

On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 9:53:22 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> I got my long awaited 650b hunq-green Atlantis frame today. Its real 
> pretty and has some nice little details that I wasn't expecting. I'm 
> building it up with parts from the hunqapillar I recently sold, and for the 
> foreseeable future, it will be the one bike I have (in the city where I 
> live). 
>
> 1- this is the third bike I've had shipped to me by rivendell and the 
> packing was great on the other two, but the packing on this one completely 
> blew those others out of the water. I don't know who is packing bikes over 
> there but they are upping their game. Serious OCD design masterwork 
> happening. It's almost a shame to unpack it.
>
> 2- how hard should it be for a seatpost to go in on a new frame? Using a 
> 27.2 nitto that's been on a few bikes and I can't get it much more than a 
> cm in without feeling like I'm gonna break something in me or the bike. Is 
> it possible that it takes a 27.0?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread Belopsky
Sounds like they, the very least, used 9/6/9 on the seat tube.

My favorite seatpost is the Ene Gran Compe - 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DIA-COMPE-ENE-CICLO-ENE-SEAT-POST-Silver/132380655898?hash=item1ed280811a:g:XXcAAOSwiylXC27p

Hard to find in the states, need to get it direct from Japan 

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread scott
I just got an Atlantis and ran into the same seatpost issue. It is a 26.8. Mark 
said they changed the tubing recently.

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-13 Thread MartyG
26.8 on the huge mixte. I'm happy for the extra thickness in the seat tube. 
Don't force anything! Even seat posts can vary regardless what the size marking 
says. Check that too. 

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thicker wall thickness means a smaller hole.  All steel seat tubes are 28.6mm 
outside diameter. Frames thy take a 27.2mm seat post have 0.7mm wall thickness. 
 Frames that take a 26.8mm seatpost have a 0.9mm wall thickness. For a stout, 
reliable bike like an Atlantis which should last for 50 years, it makes sense. 
Not that they had a bunch of failures with thin walled seat tubes

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito, Ca

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-12 Thread drew
Interesting. I'll give them a call tomorrow. What's behind a move to 28.6?

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-12 Thread Bob B
Also—sweet bike!

Bob
Brooklyn, NY

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-12 Thread Bob B
I can confirm what Bill said. Same thing happened to me when I got my hunq in 
2016. It needs a 26.8. I wish Riv’s geometry chart had that!

Bob
Brooklyn, NY

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think it's 26.8mm nowadays.   

On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 6:53:22 PM UTC-8, drew wrote:
>
> I got my long awaited 650b hunq-green Atlantis frame today. Its real 
> pretty and has some nice little details that I wasn't expecting. I'm 
> building it up with parts from the hunqapillar I recently sold, and for the 
> foreseeable future, it will be the one bike I have (in the city where I 
> live). 
>
> 1- this is the third bike I've had shipped to me by rivendell and the 
> packing was great on the other two, but the packing on this one completely 
> blew those others out of the water. I don't know who is packing bikes over 
> there but they are upping their game. Serious OCD design masterwork 
> happening. It's almost a shame to unpack it.
>
> 2- how hard should it be for a seatpost to go in on a new frame? Using a 
> 27.2 nitto that's been on a few bikes and I can't get it much more than a 
> cm in without feeling like I'm gonna break something in me or the bike. Is 
> it possible that it takes a 27.0?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

2017-12-12 Thread twowheeledtexan
Drew,

I had a Hunq that turned out to take a 27. Call Rivendell, when I talked to 
Will he said some of the frames were reamed to 27, and he sent me a post right 
away.

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