[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
Back in The Day, we rode fixed in the winter for training; supless and all that nonsense. The gear of choice was a 42X16 = 71 gear inches, because that was our small chainring. (Everybody I knew used 42X52or53 chainrings, even in flat-road challenged Colorado.) So when I was choosing my gearing I started there (45X17 = 42X16), and went lower with the other gears for my middle age power adjustment and hills. 71 inches still feels good through the rolling valley with light winds, but can be a bit cumbersome in stop and go urban traffic or headwinds. Then I use my big-big for 63 inches. I do hate to be spun out for significant periods though. Part of the character of the Q for me is choosing gearing, but having the option to change in mid ride as desired. My wife doesn't get it. When I speak of such Q things, she looks me straight in the eye and says slowly and purposefully so it may sink in: Dee Rail Your. Poor woman lacks imagination at times. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
I was afraid that the 13 tooth range on the 40/32 16/19 would not work on the SO dropout. I have one of the prototypes so I can't speak for the production frames. I run a Sugino double 48/44 the Dos 16/19 on the free side and a Surly Dingle on the fixed. It works great for my commute and occasional 40 mile ride trip to Rivendell. I'll switch from 44/19 and 48/16 at least once during the trip. On Jun 17, 8:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
Back in The Day, we rode fixed in the winter for training; supless and all that nonsense. The gear of choice was a 42X16 = 71 gear inches, because that was our small chainring. (Everybody I knew used 42X52or53 chainrings, even in flat-road challenged Colorado.) So when I was choosing my gearing I started there (45X17 = 42X16), and went lower with the other gears for my middle age power adjustment and hills. 71 inches still feels good through the rolling valley with light winds, but can be a bit cumbersome in stop and go urban traffic or headwinds. Then I use my big-big for 63 inches. I do hate to be spun out for significant periods though. Part of the character of the Q for me is choosing gearing, but having the option to change in mid ride as desired. My wife doesn't get it. When I speak of such Q things, she looks me straight in the eye and says slowly and puposefully so it may sink in: Dee Rail Your. Poor woman lacks imagination at times. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
I'm running the ENO Double/Double (39/36 and 16/19). I've mostly used the 39/16 everywhere. I've not tried to cross-thread the pair front to back - don't really see how 39/19 or 36/16 would be more useful than just dropping to 36/19 when necessary. The taller gear setup is just fine for flat city riding where you have to stop every couple of blocks but a bit too easy for continuous spinning. e.g. I'm looking for a 14t or less freewheel for the other side of the flip/flop now for those longer uninterrupted rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
There are no freewheels smaller than 15 teeth and even those are hard to findyou may need to up your chain rings or go with a fixed gear but then you will need a perfect chain line and some form of attachment to the pedals to be safe. I'd just switch to a 39x42 chain ring set up or more, if you've the legs for higher gearing. Hopefully you saved some extra chain links! On Jun 19, 10:13 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: I'm running the ENO Double/Double (39/36 and 16/19). I've mostly used the 39/16 everywhere. I've not tried to cross-thread the pair front to back - don't really see how 39/19 or 36/16 would be more useful than just dropping to 36/19 when necessary. The taller gear setup is just fine for flat city riding where you have to stop every couple of blocks but a bit too easy for continuous spinning. e.g. I'm looking for a 14t or less freewheel for the other side of the flip/flop now for those longer uninterrupted rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
My Simple One.just love it. I used some scrounged parts also. http://www.flickr.com/photos/62431375@N08/ On Jun 17, 6:35 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm with some of the others hereI have mine set up with 39x36 rings and the 16-19 This allows me a 36x19=51 39x16=66 and I think I can use it the other way too.but I don't. I don't have the axle changing position on the dropout and I get a mid low and a mid high gear. I plan on a 22 tooth freewheel for the flop side later and may go with a 30x38 up front as I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier and am old and fat. The 16-18 freewheel is actually a nice combo and with even spaced teeth it works out better with the stock 40x32 IMHO. The white 18 tooth heavy duty trials model is the one to get if you want a single cog freewheel. Finding a gear you can live with 80% of the time is tricky but for me and my terrain that works out to something between 60-68 inches. It is nice to have theheadwind / hill / I'm really poopedgear when you need it though. I once did an experiment to see if I could ride my local hilly 15 mile ride using the 51 only and I did it just fineit was a grunt up the hills and a spin, spin coast on the flats but it worked fine. I can easily spin along at 10-13 mph in that gear and still make it up a decent climb. The 66 is a little rough starting in traffic but once moving its the gear to have if you want to ride at a more normal pace. I would get the 16-18 and later get a 22 if I were to do it over again. This gives you a 39,48,60 and 68 if my memory is correct and is about all you need. On Jun 17, 8:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
Mike, Green was the original Q color. There was some gnashing of teeth when the orange color was introduced. No matter the color, its a fun bike. I have been commuting on it this spring. You must have a track SuperbePro. I have only seen 130bcd Superbe. I need to sell mine along with its matching BB. On Jun 17, 4:32 pm, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: So far my S1 has a 17 tooth single. Can't comment too much on it because I don't even have a chain installed yet, or brake levers. Should get the first trial run this weekend. I'm going to get the gearing tested out for a while before I spring for a White freewheel (if ever). The cranks will *probably* be a Specialized triple from a 1986 Stumpjumper. I have a 1973 Dura-Ace crank that is choice number two. I also have a Superbe-Pro crank that is beautiful, but with a 144mm BCD, I just don't think it's going to work on anything for me ever again. It's currently on a Vitus 979 frame, but I don't think that's ever going to work for me again either. I'm building this frame mostly from the parts bin as you might guess. My plan is a true single speed, no flops or Dos Eno, but that may always change. I'm not getting younger. It does coast. Hey Mojo! Interesting to see that Quickbeam color! Was that stock? What year? On my monitor it looks a bit like the S1. I guess you have a different vintage Superbe crank if it takes a 39? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
Mike, Green was the original Q color. There was some gnashing of teeth when the orange color was introduced. No matter the color, its a fun bike. I have been commuting on it this spring. The orange is great, but the original green color has always looked perfect for the Quickbeam in my humble opinion. Very classy but strong color. It's hard not to like that primary green. Of course the new S1 green is a great color as well. On Jun 18, 9:15 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, Green was the original Q color. There was some gnashing of teeth when the orange color was introduced. No matter the color, its a fun bike. I have been commuting on it this spring. You must have a track SuperbePro. I have only seen 130bcd Superbe. I need to sell mine along with its matching BB. On Jun 17, 4:32 pm, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: So far my S1 has a 17 tooth single. Can't comment too much on it because I don't even have a chain installed yet, or brake levers. Should get the first trial run this weekend. I'm going to get the gearing tested out for a while before I spring for a White freewheel (if ever). The cranks will *probably* be a Specialized triple from a 1986 Stumpjumper. I have a 1973 Dura-Ace crank that is choice number two. I also have a Superbe-Pro crank that is beautiful, but with a 144mm BCD, I just don't think it's going to work on anything for me ever again. It's currently on a Vitus 979 frame, but I don't think that's ever going to work for me again either. I'm building this frame mostly from the parts bin as you might guess. My plan is a true single speed, no flops or Dos Eno, but that may always change. I'm not getting younger. It does coast. Hey Mojo! Interesting to see that Quickbeam color! Was that stock? What year? On my monitor it looks a bit like the S1. I guess you have a different vintage Superbe crank if it takes a 39? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
Well it sure is easier to get a Testors color match at my local hobby shop with the original green color that's for sure. I like the new color bettermore subdued and elegant. Less tractor like, not that I have anything against tractors. Still not sure what color is a good match off the Testors color chart though. I put three good scratches in mine before I even had it assembled. Kind of did away with the whole inanimate object worship thing right off the bat.which is a good thing. I enjoy mine but its a piece of equipment that I will use hard..but I like to take care of things too. On Jun 18, 7:51 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Green was the original Q color. There was some gnashing of teeth when the orange color was introduced. No matter the color, its a fun bike. I have been commuting on it this spring. The orange is great, but the original green color has always looked perfect for the Quickbeam in my humble opinion. Very classy but strong color. It's hard not to like that primary green. Of course the new S1 green is a great color as well. On Jun 18, 9:15 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, Green was the original Q color. There was some gnashing of teeth when the orange color was introduced. No matter the color, its a fun bike. I have been commuting on it this spring. You must have a track SuperbePro. I have only seen 130bcd Superbe. I need to sell mine along with its matching BB. On Jun 17, 4:32 pm, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: So far my S1 has a 17 tooth single. Can't comment too much on it because I don't even have a chain installed yet, or brake levers. Should get the first trial run this weekend. I'm going to get the gearing tested out for a while before I spring for a White freewheel (if ever). The cranks will *probably* be a Specialized triple from a 1986 Stumpjumper. I have a 1973 Dura-Ace crank that is choice number two. I also have a Superbe-Pro crank that is beautiful, but with a 144mm BCD, I just don't think it's going to work on anything for me ever again. It's currently on a Vitus 979 frame, but I don't think that's ever going to work for me again either. I'm building this frame mostly from the parts bin as you might guess. My plan is a true single speed, no flops or Dos Eno, but that may always change. I'm not getting younger. It does coast. Hey Mojo! Interesting to see that Quickbeam color! Was that stock? What year? On my monitor it looks a bit like the S1. I guess you have a different vintage Superbe crank if it takes a 39? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
Like the Quickbeam, the Simpleone is designed with dropouts that will manage a difference of 8 teeth. 40/19 to 32/16 is 11 teeth, so you can't get all four ratios from that set-up. In practice, I rarely shift my QB. I've thought of making it one chainring/one cog, but knowing that I have the ability to shift lower if I get too tired on a long ride is reassuring. jim m wc ca On Jun 17, 8:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
I shift my QB from time to time (usually once on my way to work), but if I'm going to shift, I'm more likely to go from 40/16 to 32/19, or to 32/22 by flipping the wheel. -Matt On Jun 17, 11:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
My Q has been in single speed mode, vs fixed gear mode, for more than a year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/set-72157607471577085 I am using the 17-19 Dos Eno and that would work for you, though it would be quite low gearing. I am using the 17-19 with a 39-45 up front which is not the most efficient use of the DosEno as the small-large and large-small are the same gear inches. But it gives me three useful gears: 72-63-55 inches. Like other owners, I rarely shift (out of the 72 inch gear) and prefer to grunt until absolutely necessary. On the other (flop) side is a 23T freewheel that gives me a bailout gear of 46 inches. I have only used that gear twice for climbs into the Colorado National Monument. Both times I swore I would never use the Q for that ride again as I hate to flip-flop on the side of the road. Its been long enough that I am about ready to do it again On Jun 17, 9:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
I'm running the 16/19 with 32/36 in front on my QB. This gives me about the same range as stock (40/32 with a single 18t freewheel) with a dandy looking fender line, great chainline, a bailout gear AND easy wheel removal. I only use the 16/36 and 19/32 combos. I live in a pretty hilly town and I've used my QB on mountain rides with this set up. If I lived somewhere flat, I'd definitely gear up. Dave On Jun 17, 11:02 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: My Q has been in single speed mode, vs fixed gear mode, for more than a year.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/set-721576074... I am using the 17-19 Dos Eno and that would work for you, though it would be quite low gearing. I am using the 17-19 with a 39-45 up front which is not the most efficient use of the DosEno as the small-large and large-small are the same gear inches. But it gives me three useful gears: 72-63-55 inches. Like other owners, I rarely shift (out of the 72 inch gear) and prefer to grunt until absolutely necessary. On the other (flop) side is a 23T freewheel that gives me a bailout gear of 46 inches. I have only used that gear twice for climbs into the Colorado National Monument. Both times I swore I would never use the Q for that ride again as I hate to flip-flop on the side of the road. Its been long enough that I am about ready to do it again On Jun 17, 9:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
I'm with some of the others hereI have mine set up with 39x36 rings and the 16-19 This allows me a 36x19=51 39x16=66 and I think I can use it the other way too.but I don't. I don't have the axle changing position on the dropout and I get a mid low and a mid high gear. I plan on a 22 tooth freewheel for the flop side later and may go with a 30x38 up front as I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier and am old and fat. The 16-18 freewheel is actually a nice combo and with even spaced teeth it works out better with the stock 40x32 IMHO. The white 18 tooth heavy duty trials model is the one to get if you want a single cog freewheel. Finding a gear you can live with 80% of the time is tricky but for me and my terrain that works out to something between 60-68 inches. It is nice to have theheadwind / hill / I'm really poopedgear when you need it though. I once did an experiment to see if I could ride my local hilly 15 mile ride using the 51 only and I did it just fineit was a grunt up the hills and a spin, spin coast on the flats but it worked fine. I can easily spin along at 10-13 mph in that gear and still make it up a decent climb. The 66 is a little rough starting in traffic but once moving its the gear to have if you want to ride at a more normal pace. I would get the 16-18 and later get a 22 if I were to do it over again. This gives you a 39,48,60 and 68 if my memory is correct and is about all you need. On Jun 17, 8:59 am, Rob H. robhua...@gmail.com wrote: The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go simpler and have 18t as the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?
So far my S1 has a 17 tooth single. Can't comment too much on it because I don't even have a chain installed yet, or brake levers. Should get the first trial run this weekend. I'm going to get the gearing tested out for a while before I spring for a White freewheel (if ever). The cranks will *probably* be a Specialized triple from a 1986 Stumpjumper. I have a 1973 Dura-Ace crank that is choice number two. I also have a Superbe-Pro crank that is beautiful, but with a 144mm BCD, I just don't think it's going to work on anything for me ever again. It's currently on a Vitus 979 frame, but I don't think that's ever going to work for me again either. I'm building this frame mostly from the parts bin as you might guess. My plan is a true single speed, no flops or Dos Eno, but that may always change. I'm not getting younger. It does coast. Hey Mojo! Interesting to see that Quickbeam color! Was that stock? What year? On my monitor it looks a bit like the S1. I guess you have a different vintage Superbe crank if it takes a 39? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
