Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

Ahh now I see what you mean...thanks,Jim

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:22:01 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>
> https://fitkitsystems.com/product/pedal-spacers-20mm/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwnsPGBRDo4c6RqK-Oqu8BEiQAwNviCVM-vfOVecBoaNnqALDo7EP5bLrXUjP5aO7-UEeYBawaAihk8P8HAQ
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
>> what are pedal extenders exactly? 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think 
>>> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>>>
>>> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size 
>>> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare 
>>> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully 
>>> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big 
>>> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>>>
>>> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts 
>>> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>>>
>>> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>>>
>>> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty 
>>> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.  
>>> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may 
>>> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections 
>>> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.  
>>> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no 
>>> fiddling required.
>>>
>>> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the 
>>> relative effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll 
>>> get the brake adjusted and see.
>>>
>>> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the 
>>> stock pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and 
>>> probably undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too 
>>> grabby with salmons.
>>>  
>>> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, 
>>> the fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels 
>>> alarmingly upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but 
>>> I'm thinking I might prefer something like this: 
>>> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.  
>>>
>>> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure 
>>> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry, 
>>> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>>>
>>> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around 
>>> the block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 
>>> mile ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>>>
>>> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something 
>>> else.  I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can 
>>> only be tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  
>>> With pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess 
>>> I could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on 
>>> the threads.  LOL.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses 
 me more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
 think about this bike 

 On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> And
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>
>> Bam!
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>
>> It has arrived!
>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my 
>> daughter and brought it in the house.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my 
>>> Atlantis box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else 
>>> as a 
>>> surprise. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
 artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
 unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike

 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>
> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a 
> long time!
>
> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
> 

[RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Congrats on the bike!  I too love the mustard color.  I have the 
MAP-Ahearne on my new Quickbeam but I'm getting it back from the shop 
tomorrow so I have yet to try it out.  Can attest that it looks nice, 
though.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 1:12:02 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Congrats! I love that mustard color -- I wish it had been available when I 
> bought mine (a grey H-frame 52).
>
> If you do end up swapping the bars out for an Ahearne-Map, I'd love to 
> hear your impressions, as I've been thinking of doing the same thing.  
>
> Bob E
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Congrats! I love that mustard color -- I wish it had been available when I 
bought mine (a grey H-frame 52).

If you do end up swapping the bars out for an Ahearne-Map, I'd love to hear 
your impressions, as I've been thinking of doing the same thing.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

https://fitkitsystems.com/product/pedal-spacers-20mm/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwnsPGBRDo4c6RqK-Oqu8BEiQAwNviCVM-vfOVecBoaNnqALDo7EP5bLrXUjP5aO7-UEeYBawaAihk8P8HAQ

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> what are pedal extenders exactly?
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think
>> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>>
>> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size
>> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare
>> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully
>> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big
>> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>>
>> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts
>> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>>
>> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>>
>> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty
>> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.
>> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may
>> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections
>> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.
>> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no
>> fiddling required.
>>
>> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the
>> relative effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll
>> get the brake adjusted and see.
>>
>> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the
>> stock pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and
>> probably undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too
>> grabby with salmons.
>>
>> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the
>> fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly
>> upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking
>> I might prefer something like this: https://www.ahearnecycles.com/
>> shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.
>>
>> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure
>> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry,
>> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>>
>> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around
>> the block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20
>> mile ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>>
>> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.
>> I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be
>> tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With
>> pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I
>> could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on
>> the threads.  LOL.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me
>>> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you
>>> think about this bike
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 And

 On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

> Bam!
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>
> It has arrived!
> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my
> daughter and brought it in the house.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
> wrote:
>
>> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my
>> Atlantis box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else 
>> as a
>> surprise.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get
>>> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun
>>> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!

 I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a
 long time!

 One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the
 SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather 
 slowly it
 seems.

 On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud 
 wrote:

> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Eric Daume]

It looks like they used the same length chainstays on the 65cm Clem as the
59cm. They look more proportional (but still long!) on the big bike.

Looks great!

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think
> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>
> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size
> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare
> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully
> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big
> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>
> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts
> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>
> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>
> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty
> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.
> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may
> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections
> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.
> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no
> fiddling required.
>
> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the relative
> effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll get the
> brake adjusted and see.
>
> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the stock
> pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and probably
> undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too grabby with
> salmons.
>
> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the
> fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly
> upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking
> I might prefer something like this: https://www.ahearnecycles.com/
> shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.
>
> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure
> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry,
> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>
> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around the
> block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 mile
> ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>
> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.
> I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be
> tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With
> pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I
> could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on
> the threads.  LOL.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming <
> ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me
>> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you
>> think about this bike
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> And
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
 Bam!

 On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

 It has arrived!
 Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my
 daughter and brought it in the house.

 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
 wrote:

> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis
> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a
> surprise.
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get
>> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun
>> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>>
>>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a
>>> long time!
>>>
>>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the
>>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>>> it
>>> seems.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.

 Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable.

 Thomas

 On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> You are most 

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

what are pedal extenders exactly? 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think 
> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>
> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size 
> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare 
> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully 
> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big 
> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>
> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts 
> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>
> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>
> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty 
> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.  
> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may 
> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections 
> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.  
> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no 
> fiddling required.
>
> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the relative 
> effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll get the 
> brake adjusted and see.
>
> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the stock 
> pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and probably 
> undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too grabby with 
> salmons.
>  
> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the 
> fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly 
> upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking 
> I might prefer something like this: 
> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.  
>
> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure 
> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry, 
> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>
> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around the 
> block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 mile 
> ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>
> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.  
> I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be 
> tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With 
> pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I 
> could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on 
> the threads.  LOL.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
>> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me 
>> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
>> think about this bike 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> And
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
 Bam!

 On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

 It has arrived!
 Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my 
 daughter and brought it in the house.

 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella  
 wrote:

> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis 
> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a 
> surprise. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
>> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
>> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>>
>>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a 
>>> long time!
>>>
>>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
>>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>>> it 
>>> seems.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 

 Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 

 Thomas

 On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> You are most welcome!
>
> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you 

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think
they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.

What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size would
indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare feet
after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully it
will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big that
it pushes the whole deal upwards.

I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts
and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.

Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.

The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty
amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.
I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may
just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections
to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.
I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no
fiddling required.

The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the relative
effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll get the
brake adjusted and see.

Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the stock
pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and probably
undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too grabby with
salmons.

I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the
fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly
upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking
I might prefer something like this:
https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.

I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure as
to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry, or
use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.

Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around the
block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 mile
ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.

I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.  I
use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be
tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With
pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I
could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on
the threads.  LOL.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming  wrote:

> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me
> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you
> think about this bike
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> And
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>
>>> Bam!
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has arrived!
>>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter
>>> and brought it in the house.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis
 box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a
 surprise.


 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get
> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun
> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>
>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a
>> long time!
>>
>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the
>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>> it
>> seems.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.
>>>
>>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:

 You are most welcome!

 NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup?
 ;)

 I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.





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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[RichS]

Congratulations! Clem are an excellent value. Stable and comfortable.

Best,
Richard 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 11:08:18 AM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me 
> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
> think about this bike 
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> And
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>
>>> Bam!
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has arrived!
>>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter 
>>> and brought it in the house.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis 
 box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a 
 surprise. 


 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>
>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a 
>> long time!
>>
>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>> it 
>> seems.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 
>>>
>>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:

 You are most welcome!

 NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? 
 ;)

 I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.





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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me 
more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
think about this bike 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> And
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  
> wrote:
>
>> Bam!
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  
>> wrote:
>>
>> It has arrived!
>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter 
>> and brought it in the house.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella > > wrote:
>>
>>> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis 
>>> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a 
>>> surprise. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
 artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
 unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike

 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>
> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a long 
> time!
>
> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
> it 
> seems.
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  wrote:
>
>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 
>>
>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>>>
>>> You are most welcome!
>>>
>>> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>>>
>>> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

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Oh joy! Enjoy it!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

It has arrived!
Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter
and brought it in the house.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
wrote:

> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis
> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a
> surprise.
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get artwork
>> on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun unpacking
>> (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>>
>>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a long
>>> time!
>>>
>>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the SomaGR
>>> in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly it seems.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  wrote:
>>>
 Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.

 Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable.

 Thomas

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>
> You are most welcome!
>
> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>
> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Wally Estrella]

HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis box. 
 I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a surprise. 


On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get artwork 
> on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun unpacking 
> (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>
>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a long 
>> time!
>>
>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the SomaGR 
>> in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly it seems.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  wrote:
>>
>>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 
>>>
>>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:

 You are most welcome!

 NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)

 I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.





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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get artwork 
on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun unpacking 
(don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>
> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a long 
> time!
>
> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the SomaGR 
> in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly it seems.
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  > wrote:
>
>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 
>>
>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>>>
>>> You are most welcome!
>>>
>>> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>>>
>>> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!

I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a long time!

One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the SomaGR in
the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly it seems.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  wrote:

> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.
>
> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable.
>
> Thomas
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>>
>> You are most welcome!
>>
>> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>>
>> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[blakcloud]

Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 

Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 

Thomas

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> You are most welcome!
>
> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>
> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[blakcloud]

Now that was funny. Good way to start my morning, laughing. Thanks for that 
Wally.

On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> You are most welcome!
>
> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>
> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 2:28:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr H Frame 65cm Mustard.
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/clem-smith-jr-h-style-complete
>>
>> Resistance became futile when they dropped the price $200.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Wally Estrella  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and most importantlywhat's the new bike?
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

Ya my other 2 are a 68 cm Road Standard or Custom from the 90s, converted
to 650B and a 68cm Redwood from the 04-06 range, both acquired used.  This
is my first new Rivendell.  I'm kind of geeking out about it, even though
it's not technically as nice as the others, there's something to be said
about being the first and only owner. ;)

Of course, I am already thinking about mods, and I haven't even gotten the
bike yet.  The fenders are in the box.  I'm looking at tires in the 40-50mm
range.

Besides carrying my toddler around, I have a mixed terrain 200K in mind for
this bike that my usual brevet bike (the Road Standard/Custom) is not well
suited to. This particular ride has about about a 6 mile stretch of soft
sand followed by hard rocks right before the turnaround, then you get to go
through it again the other direction.  I can only fit 38mm tires, tops, on
the RoadStd/Custom.  I tried it once and there was a lot of slideouts on
the sandy section, it was definitely touch and go with 38mm slicks.  That
left me fairly disappointed because other than that one rough section, it's
one of the nicest rides around this area.

I'm thinking maybe something like this would work well, or even the stock
tires.
http://www.wtb.com/products/riddler-45c
I need something that can get through the sand more confidently and not get
cut on the rocks but that won't be too much of a slog on pavement.

of course being an upright bar bike with largest gear of 38x12(?) it will
be a leisurely ride but one has 13.5 hours to finish a 200K.  All you need
is RFD, that being, Relentless Forward Direction...

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Wally Estrella 
wrote:

> You are most welcome!
>
> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>
> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 2:28:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr H Frame 65cm Mustard.
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-
>> and-bicycles/products/clem-smith-jr-h-style-complete
>>
>> Resistance became futile when they dropped the price $200.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Wally Estrella 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and most importantlywhat's the new bike?
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

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Congratulations!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Wally Estrella]

You are most welcome!

NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)

I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.





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> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/clem-smith-jr-h-style-complete
>
> Resistance became futile when they dropped the price $200.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

Thanks.

Clem Smith Jr H Frame 65cm Mustard.

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/clem-smith-jr-h-style-complete

Resistance became futile when they dropped the price $200.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Wally Estrella 
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> Oh and most importantlywhat's the new bike?
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[RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Wally Estrella]

Oh and most importantlywhat's the new bike?

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Wally Estrella]

this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvZJWIm1o0


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> Didn't Riv make a video of the best way to unpack a bike that they had 
> shipped?  I've been looking for it but haven't found it so far.
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