[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Bill Lindsay]

That is really really funny!  I'm thinking about moving to 29 Hunqapillar 
Trail myself!  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 1:55:29 PM UTC-8, M D Smith wrote:
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> Have Grant set you up on a custom super light 650b Legolas inspired road 
> bike. That would be hot!  
>
>
> To which I reply:
>
> Please pardon the OT post, but I'd like to share a moment-
>
> I read this list in digest mode on an iPad.  In Bill's post, "650b Legolas 
> road" bike is highlighted as a hyperlink.  "Cool," methinks, "must be a 
> photo of a sweet bike," and I clicked it.
>
> Lo and behold, up pops the apple map program of my neighborhood searching 
> in vain for House number 650B on "Legolas Inspired Rd." and apologizing 
> "result not found."  It gave me a chuckle and put a little smile on my face 
> to think of an address on Legolas Inspired Road.  That's probably the first 
> smile, let alone chuckle, to have crossed my lips in the last 48 hours...
>
> Thank goodness for this list...
>
> Mike in Bklyn, NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[M D Smith]

Bill wrote:

Have Grant set you up on a custom super light 650b Legolas inspired road bike. 
That would be hot!  


To which I reply:

Please pardon the OT post, but I'd like to share a moment-

I read this list in digest mode on an iPad.  In Bill's post, "650b Legolas 
road" bike is highlighted as a hyperlink.  "Cool," methinks, "must be a photo 
of a sweet bike," and I clicked it.

Lo and behold, up pops the apple map program of my neighborhood searching in 
vain for House number 650B on "Legolas Inspired Rd." and apologizing "result 
not found."  It gave me a chuckle and put a little smile on my face to think of 
an address on Legolas Inspired Road.  That's probably the first smile, let 
alone chuckle, to have crossed my lips in the last 48 hours...

Thank goodness for this list...

Mike in Bklyn, NY

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I've really come to like 650b. Also have the San Marcos in that. Really nice 
riding bike which is why I am considering the Roadeo

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Bill Lindsay]

Have Grant set you up on a custom super light 650b Legolas inspired road bike. 
That would be hot!  

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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Tim Gavin]

That would be nice.  Until then, the Soma San Marcos came in 650b for all
its smaller sizes.  But it's not as light and sporty as a Roadeo.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:44 AM, stevef  wrote:

> Anyone else wish they'd do 650b Rodeos at least as an option in smaller
> sizes?
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:07:55 PM UTC-5, Matt Rhodes wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Just a heads up that an updated geometry chart has been posted on the new
>> site, including all the details on 650b Atlantae and Hunqs. Check 'em out
>> here .
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[stevef]

Anyone else wish they'd do 650b Rodeos at least as an option in smaller 
sizes?

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> Hey all,
>
> Just a heads up that an updated geometry chart has been posted on the new 
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> here .
>
> Cheers,
> Matt 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Scott Henry]

Hence my post of filtering by whats in stock.
As for now I can filter by price or name and see things that I can't
purchase.
Scott



On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Garth  wrote:

>   Scott,   If they removed a listing for out of stock items then surely
> people may call/email and wonder "where is that item, what happened to it,
> was it discontinued, and on and on... ?"  So instead the listed items shows
> as "sold out" , and they'll get calls/emails of "why is a sold out item
> still listed ?"  The retailer then, just can't please every possibility,
> and we all know from personal experience in our own lives.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 11:09:40 AM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> I wish the new webstore let you sort by what's in stock.   Have no real
>> interest in knowing about all the things that I can't order.
>> This of course isn't a Rivbike only thing, but knowing what you don't
>> sell only makes me do a random google sale search and buy from whomever get
>> it to me first and easiest.
>>
>> A 'store' should only try to sell whats available.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer
>>> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in
>>> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put
>>> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost
>>> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my
>>> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe
>>> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier
>>> wrote:

 I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find
 things
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Garth]

  Scott,   If they removed a listing for out of stock items then surely 
people may call/email and wonder "where is that item, what happened to it, 
was it discontinued, and on and on... ?"  So instead the listed items shows 
as "sold out" , and they'll get calls/emails of "why is a sold out item 
still listed ?"  The retailer then, just can't please every possibility, 
and we all know from personal experience in our own lives. 




On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 11:09:40 AM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:
>
> I wish the new webstore let you sort by what's in stock.   Have no real 
> interest in knowing about all the things that I can't order.
> This of course isn't a Rivbike only thing, but knowing what you don't sell 
> only makes me do a random google sale search and buy from whomever get it 
> to me first and easiest.
>
> A 'store' should only try to sell whats available.  
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer 
>> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in 
>> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put 
>> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost 
>> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my 
>> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe 
>> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find 
>>> things
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[iamkeith]

Ordinarily, I'd agree.  In the case of Rivendell however, I've learned that 
the things that are out-of-stock are usually going to be back in-stock 
quite quickly, if you are patient.They seem to stock what they can 
afford to purchase and keep in inventory, but are committed to the validity 
and value of the products that they carry.   Most on-line bike shops stock 
and sell whatever they can get in bulk and for the best bargain at the time 
and, when it's gone, it's either gone for good or it takes a long, long 
time to re-stock.

In my case, I can't think of many things that Riv sells that represent such 
an immediate "need" that I can't wait a bit.   The thing I do get 
frustrated with is that I'll often put off placing an order to wait for one 
item to come back in-stock, only for one of the other items I was going to 
order to go out-of-stock.   It would be nice to have the option to 
backorder out-of-stock items and have the whole order ship later, in order 
to minimize shipping costs.

On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 9:09:40 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>
> I wish the new webstore let you sort by what's in stock.   Have no real 
> interest in knowing about all the things that I can't order.
> This of course isn't a Rivbike only thing, but knowing what you don't sell 
> only makes me do a random google sale search and buy from whomever get it 
> to me first and easiest.
>
> A 'store' should only try to sell whats available.  
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer 
>> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in 
>> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put 
>> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost 
>> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my 
>> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe 
>> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find 
>>> things
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Scott Henry]

I wish the new webstore let you sort by what's in stock.   Have no real
interest in knowing about all the things that I can't order.
This of course isn't a Rivbike only thing, but knowing what you don't sell
only makes me do a random google sale search and buy from whomever get it
to me first and easiest.

A 'store' should only try to sell whats available.
Scott



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer
> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in
> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put
> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost
> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my
> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe
> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>
>> I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find
>> things
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[iamkeith]

It is interesting, nonetheless, that the new 59 Atlantis has a higher 
standover than the existing 61.  For many years, that was otherwise the 
bike I wished for most: Longer top tube than the 58;  More clearance than 
the 61;  Probably less TCO, due to smaller wheel.  Looks like the top tube 
has 1/2 degree more slope, so I guess that's what's driving it.

Still, I bet it is a great seller.  All academic for me too, since I 
eventually found my All Rounder.   More than anything, it's just nice to 
have a distraction today, and it's fun to look at these new sizes.  Timing 
couldn't be better.



On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:36:07 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Rene buddy. That's 4mm difference. 1/6th of an inch. They are about the 
> same standover. 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Belopsky]

New site looks great (as per my mobile phone as I'm on holiday).

Is there a web specials page? That I cannot find 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[René Sterental]

Ahhh, yes! Very confusing doing this while watching the election
projections...

Thanks for the clarification!

René

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> Rene buddy. That's 4mm difference. 1/6th of an inch. They are about the
> same standover.
>
> Bill Lindsay
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Bill Lindsay]

Rene buddy. That's 4mm difference. 1/6th of an inch. They are about the same 
standover. 

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[René Sterental]

Just checking the chart for the 650b Atlantis data... how can the 59 650b
Atlantis have a 4cm higher stand-over height vs. the 61 700c Atlantis?
Maybe I'm slow... but can't quite figure it out. 4cm on the tires? Or did I
read the chart wrong?

René

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:50 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer
> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in
> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put
> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost
> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my
> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe
> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find things
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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Bill Lindsay]

The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer 
works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in 
stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put 
the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost 
out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my 
cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe 
getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA



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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Garth]

  Yes, I agree , Simply better in about every way ! 


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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[John Hawrylak]

They show STACK and REACH now, as well as HTA & STA.

If you know your Saddle Height and Cockpit Length, you can compute the stem 
length and exposed quill length for your desired bar height.

Its just adding the X's and the Y's.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find things

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[islaysteve]

It's interesting to study this chart.  Strictly academic for me, since I'm 
not about to replace or augment my Bleriot, but it looks as though I'm 
sized out of a Sam (being on the small end of the scale).  No standover 
shown for the Sam, but the eff. top tube for the smallest one is too long 
for me.  Oh well, have to get a Homer instead!  Cheers, 
Steve


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> Hey all,
>
> Just a heads up that an updated geometry chart has been posted on the new 
> site, including all the details on 650b Atlantae and Hunqs. Check 'em out 
> here .
>
> Cheers,
> Matt 
>

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Ryan Fleming]

Thanks, Garth ! 

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>  For those that can't see it .
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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Garth]

 For those that can't see it .


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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[iamkeith]

I haven't been able to access it yet, either.  Cleared my browser cache, 
tried two different devices...   Hmmm...

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> How are you folks getting on the new site?  It's still down for me :-(

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Bob K.]

If you're having trouble connecting, try deleting the cache/cookies in your 
browser, closing it down, and opening again. This might help.

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Ryan Fleming]

Me too...can't connect ; I just get Nov 7 message

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Chad]

How are you folks getting on the new site?  It's still down for me :-(

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Richard Rios]

+1 on the website much easier to navigate from my phone as well! :)

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Also, the new website looks really, really good!!!   



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> Hey all,
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> Just a heads up that an updated geometry chart has been posted on the new 
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> here .
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> Cheers,
> Matt 
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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

[sameness]

Oh man. 

A 59cm Atlantis.

Oh man.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: New geo chart

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm really liking the numbers on the new Hunqapillar and Atlantis!   



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> Cheers,
> Matt 
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