[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
From what I have seen the Panaracer Pasela tire sizes today are A LOT closer to stated size than they used to be. A new Pasela 700x32 measures 30mm on a 20mm rim. A very old Pasela 700x32 measured 25.5mm on the same rim! Angus On May 15, 9:11 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, thanks for the feedback. 32mm Paselas that measure 30mm sound great. Strange as my 35mm Paselas measure out at 37mm Consistency??? We don't need no stinkin' consistency! FWIW, this is on an Open Pro rim. Gracias for the input! David On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: David, What rim are you using? We need to know because every tire is slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just 28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim. That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating.. David ...it's time for a new tire! They don't appear to be ruff or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop putting up with them! You gave them more than a fair shot time for a change. I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much volume they have. yes? My first thought is Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. http://www.rei.com/product/709112 They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too, but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance! I use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved and back roads. Loads of Air volume. Or just stick with a Pasela 32. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
Right, I have some old 35's that around 31mm, and my new 35s are now 37mm. DE On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From what I have seen the Panaracer Pasela tire sizes today are A LOT closer to stated size than they used to be. A new Pasela 700x32 measures 30mm on a 20mm rim. A very old Pasela 700x32 measured 25.5mm on the same rim! Angus On May 15, 9:11 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, thanks for the feedback. 32mm Paselas that measure 30mm sound great. Strange as my 35mm Paselas measure out at 37mm Consistency??? We don't need no stinkin' consistency! FWIW, this is on an Open Pro rim. Gracias for the input! David On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: David, What rim are you using? We need to know because every tire is slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just 28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim. That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating.. David ...it's time for a new tire! They don't appear to be ruff or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop putting up with them! You gave them more than a fair shot time for a change. I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much volume they have. yes? My first thought is Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. http://www.rei.com/product/709112 They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too, but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance! I use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved and back roads. Loads of Air volume. Or just stick with a Pasela 32. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
... would it kill them to actually have them be you know, 35mm? Ruffy Tuffies are the only tires I know that run true to size (not that I have that wide of a knowledge in these things). On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I have some old 35's that around 31mm, and my new 35s are now 37mm. DE On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From what I have seen the Panaracer Pasela tire sizes today are A LOT closer to stated size than they used to be. A new Pasela 700x32 measures 30mm on a 20mm rim. A very old Pasela 700x32 measured 25.5mm on the same rim! Angus On May 15, 9:11 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, thanks for the feedback. 32mm Paselas that measure 30mm sound great. Strange as my 35mm Paselas measure out at 37mm Consistency??? We don't need no stinkin' consistency! FWIW, this is on an Open Pro rim. Gracias for the input! David On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: David, What rim are you using? We need to know because every tire is slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just 28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim. That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating.. David ...it's time for a new tire! They don't appear to be ruff or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop putting up with them! You gave them more than a fair shot time for a change. I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much volume they have. yes? My first thought is Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. http://www.rei.com/product/709112 They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too, but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance! I use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved and back roads. Loads of Air volume. Or just stick with a Pasela 32. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On May 16, 1:19 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I like my 35 mm (measured 34 mm) Randonneur Pros. Nice rolling, sturdy, and reflective sidewalls. Not exactly light, but the Pro's have less tread and folding beads so they're lighter (and presumably speedier) than the Cross version. Vittoria's seem to run just under stated size, so the 32s should come in around 31 actual. Bill What are the Pro's ... 430g? Man... that's featherweight compared to the Panaracer Crosstown's I'm using. Try 700g for a 35/34 (actual) ! It's irrelevant for my needs however. Vittoria Randonneur's don't get much press, especially the larger ones. Everything thinks of them for racing tires. They are not a new name like Scwalbe. It's a study in how the collective mind attracts and repels things. Right now, Schwalbe it having it's time. The Randonneur tires just work and they don't cost near as much. I wish they made all of them in the 48mm size. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
David: All paved road, though of varying degrees of smoothness. From: David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:30:15 PM Subject: [RBW] Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems Bruce, are those miles on/off road or road only? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
David, My 700x32 Paselas measure 30mm wide and Ruffy Tuffy's measure 26.5mm wide, both on 20mm wide rims. Angus On May 14, 11:30 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, are those miles on/off road or road only? I'm looking for 30mm tire that is good for both and doesn't disintegrate in my garage or puncture every 10 miles. Probably should stick w/ Paselas, but I want just a bit more volume than 28mm, and 32/33mm tires are just too close... 30mm is the sweet spot! On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm over 1,000 miles on my GB Cypres. No flats, etc. Still love em. -- *From:* GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:12:38 PM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems I just put a pair of Grand Bois on my Rambouillet. So far so good. They have a springier feel than the Ruffy Tuffys. But now you've got me worried. Who is Gino and what terrible things has he said about these expensive tires? GeorgeS -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
Quoting David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com: Bruce, are those miles on/off road or road only? I'm looking for 30mm tire that is good for both and doesn't disintegrate in my garage or puncture every 10 miles. Probably should stick w/ Paselas, but I want just a bit more volume than 28mm, and 32/33mm tires are just too close... 30mm is the sweet spot! Then you will love the 32mm wire bead non-TG Pasela. It is exactly the same size as the Grand Bois 700x30mm. I had them on my VO all winter, took them off and reinstalled the GB's on Tuesday. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
David, What rim are you using? We need to know because every tire is slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just 28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim. That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating.. David ...it's time for a new tire! They don't appear to be ruff or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop putting up with them! You gave them more than a fair shot time for a change. I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much volume they have. yes? My first thought is Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. http://tinyurl.com/rxrucg They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too, but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance! I use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved and back roads. Loads of Air volume. Or just stick with a Pasela 32. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
David, What rim are you using? We need to know because every tire is slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just 28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim. That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating.. David ...it's time for a new tire! They don't appear to be ruff or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop putting up with them! You gave them more than a fair shot time for a change. I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much volume they have. yes? My first thought is Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. http://www.rei.com/product/709112 They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too, but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance! I use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved and back roads. Loads of Air volume. Or just stick with a Pasela 32. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:11 AM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, thanks for the feedback. 32mm Paselas that measure 30mm sound great. Strange as my 35mm Paselas measure out at 37mm Consistency??? We don't need no stinkin' consistency! FWIW, this is on an Open Pro rim. Wallbike has started compiling a list of sizes of schwalbe tires on various rims. Might be a useful thing to compile on the list. Maybe a shared google spread sheet? Then someone could go reference whatever size/type rim they have and the tire they want and they could find the right size. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On May 15, 5:18 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: My first thought is Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI.http://www.rei.com/product/709112 They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too, but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance! I use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved and back roads. Loads of Air volume. Or just stick with a Pasela 32. I like my 35 mm (measured 34 mm) Randonneur Pros. Nice rolling, sturdy, and reflective sidewalls. Not exactly light, but the Pro's have less tread and folding beads so they're lighter (and presumably speedier) than the Cross version. Vittoria's seem to run just under stated size, so the 32s should come in around 31 actual. Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
