Re: [RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-02-08 Thread Patrick Moore
I dunno, I just asked the tech, a friend, to make this that and the other
happen, and he did. He had to by some sort of plug adaptor for the new Mac.
(The screen is a Samsung.)

Next project, this time attempted by myself: load Ubuntu on my daughter's
2008 Macbook with failing screen, to use perhaps as a music depository free
from F*%^$$!! iTunes.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Peter Adler  wrote:

> It's possible on any Mac with a multi-protocol Thunderbolt port (2011 and
> later); you can daisy-chain one Thunderbolt monitor to a second monitor, as
> long as the first is an Apple-branded monitor with Thunderbolt ports. You
> can also use a third-party dock with appropriate
> Thunderbolt/mini-DisplayPort video adapters, connecting the computer to the
> dock with Thunderbolt and the dock to monitor with a mini-DisplayPort
> adapter plugged into the Thunderbolt pass-through port. Most modern
> Thunderbolt docks also include an HDMI port for a second monitor, although
> the resolution on the HDMI port is often limited to 1920x1280/1400.
> Displays attached to the Thunderbolt/Thunderbolt 2 port with an adapter can
> display at resolutions up to 3840x2160 or 5120x2880, depending on the
> graphics processor.
>
> There are also USB-to-video dongles; I think there are USB 2 versions
> around, although newer ones are USB 3. I've never tried any, but I'm
> shooping around for one; my current "desktop" machine is a castoff 2011
> MacBook Pro with a non-functional display, and I too am used to a
> two-monitor expanded desktop.
>
> Peter "dual monitors on Macs, since 1998" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 7:55:19 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote:
>>
>> The dock has two monitor ports... I'm not sure this is possible on a Mac?
>> Possibly with third-party hardware?
>>
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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-02-07 Thread Peter Adler
It's possible on any Mac with a multi-protocol Thunderbolt port (2011 and 
later); you can daisy-chain one Thunderbolt monitor to a second monitor, as 
long as the first is an Apple-branded monitor with Thunderbolt ports. You 
can also use a third-party dock with appropriate 
Thunderbolt/mini-DisplayPort video adapters, connecting the computer to the 
dock with Thunderbolt and the dock to monitor with a mini-DisplayPort 
adapter plugged into the Thunderbolt pass-through port. Most modern 
Thunderbolt docks also include an HDMI port for a second monitor, although 
the resolution on the HDMI port is often limited to 1920x1280/1400. 
Displays attached to the Thunderbolt/Thunderbolt 2 port with an adapter can 
display at resolutions up to 3840x2160 or 5120x2880, depending on the 
graphics processor.

There are also USB-to-video dongles; I think there are USB 2 versions 
around, although newer ones are USB 3. I've never tried any, but I'm 
shooping around for one; my current "desktop" machine is a castoff 2011 
MacBook Pro with a non-functional display, and I too am used to a 
two-monitor expanded desktop.

Peter "dual monitors on Macs, since 1998" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 7:55:19 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> The dock has two monitor ports... I'm not sure this is possible on a Mac? 
> Possibly with third-party hardware?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-02-04 Thread Patrick Moore
I fully expect my productivity to increase by exactly 83.447%.

Seriously, even if it doesn't improve, wasting work time looking at old
Youtube videos of Coppi and gang is a lot more fun!

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:

> Sorry I completely missed this discussion, but at work my productivity is
> enhanced many-fold by virtue of two side-by-side 24" monitors plugged into
> my laptop's dock. I don't even use the 15" built-in screen, I keep the
> laptop closed. At home I use a MacBook Pro 15 (and agree the screen quality
> is excellent) but at work the standard issue laptop is a Lenovo ThinkPad
> with dock. The dock has two monitor ports... I'm not sure this is possible
> on a Mac? Possibly with third-party hardware? At any rate, I would quit my
> job if they took away my twin 24" monitors, I'm that dependent on them-- I
> often have large, and multiple datasets open and have to move and shuffle
> data between them.
>
> Anton
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 11:53:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for all youse's advice. I am now typing on a new 15" Macbook Pro
>> (well , new to me, refurbished) while listening to music on Youtube on a
>> 28" Samsung monitor, after having traded my Macbook Pro 17" in part trade
>> for my daughter's new Macbook Air (her 2008 white Mac was getting pretty
>> bad).
>>
>> The Samsung will let me get at least 4 open documents in readable size,
>> and the screens on the new Macs are astounding in their quality.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I probably should have answered this question long ago, but tell me, you
>>> who work a lot on computers, particularly those of you who write: are you
>>> more productive with 2 or even 3 screens than with 1? I assume a situation
>>> where you refer to multiple open documents.
>>>
>>> #2: if yes, would the advantage in your case justify the cost of 2 new
>>> screens and a new (larger) desk? (I expect to spend at least 2-3K on a good
>>> desk -- my present armoire desk can't accommodate more than 1 screen.)
>>>
>>> #3: Again, if yes: what brands and models would you recommend for decent
>>> but not necessarily top level 17" screens? This is for fancy word
>>> processing, not graphics.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-02-04 Thread Anton Tutter
Sorry I completely missed this discussion, but at work my productivity is 
enhanced many-fold by virtue of two side-by-side 24" monitors plugged into 
my laptop's dock. I don't even use the 15" built-in screen, I keep the 
laptop closed. At home I use a MacBook Pro 15 (and agree the screen quality 
is excellent) but at work the standard issue laptop is a Lenovo ThinkPad 
with dock. The dock has two monitor ports... I'm not sure this is possible 
on a Mac? Possibly with third-party hardware? At any rate, I would quit my 
job if they took away my twin 24" monitors, I'm that dependent on them-- I 
often have large, and multiple datasets open and have to move and shuffle 
data between them.

Anton


On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 11:53:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks for all youse's advice. I am now typing on a new 15" Macbook Pro 
> (well , new to me, refurbished) while listening to music on Youtube on a 
> 28" Samsung monitor, after having traded my Macbook Pro 17" in part trade 
> for my daughter's new Macbook Air (her 2008 white Mac was getting pretty 
> bad).
>
> The Samsung will let me get at least 4 open documents in readable size, 
> and the screens on the new Macs are astounding in their quality.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Patrick
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> I probably should have answered this question long ago, but tell me, you 
>> who work a lot on computers, particularly those of you who write: are you 
>> more productive with 2 or even 3 screens than with 1? I assume a situation 
>> where you refer to multiple open documents. 
>>
>> #2: if yes, would the advantage in your case justify the cost of 2 new 
>> screens and a new (larger) desk? (I expect to spend at least 2-3K on a good 
>> desk -- my present armoire desk can't accommodate more than 1 screen.)
>>
>> #3: Again, if yes: what brands and models would you recommend for decent 
>> but not necessarily top level 17" screens? This is for fancy word 
>> processing, not graphics.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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> circumference on which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities 
> revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-02-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for all youse's advice. I am now typing on a new 15" Macbook Pro
(well , new to me, refurbished) while listening to music on Youtube on a
28" Samsung monitor, after having traded my Macbook Pro 17" in part trade
for my daughter's new Macbook Air (her 2008 white Mac was getting pretty
bad).

The Samsung will let me get at least 4 open documents in readable size, and
the screens on the new Macs are astounding in their quality.

Thanks again.

Patrick

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I probably should have answered this question long ago, but tell me, you
> who work a lot on computers, particularly those of you who write: are you
> more productive with 2 or even 3 screens than with 1? I assume a situation
> where you refer to multiple open documents.
>
> #2: if yes, would the advantage in your case justify the cost of 2 new
> screens and a new (larger) desk? (I expect to spend at least 2-3K on a good
> desk -- my present armoire desk can't accommodate more than 1 screen.)
>
> #3: Again, if yes: what brands and models would you recommend for decent
> but not necessarily top level 17" screens? This is for fancy word
> processing, not graphics.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks; I looked up the Dell and it is affordable.

A couple of questions about this:

1. "IPS" monitor: is this technology necessary when all you are doing is
fancy word processing in Word?

2. With a 24" or larger monitor, I assume I could get away with 1 and have
up to 4 windows open on it? That is, you can open 4 and manipulate them
separately? (I plan to use the Mac screen as the work screen and the
monitor screens as the reference screens.)

One problem is that I'd rather not use a 2nd pair of "intermediate" glasses
(1st pair being my reading glasses) so Iike my windows big.

Last and different question: I've seen some of the newer HD Mac screens (my
Pro is 2010), and am I right in thinking that a smaller (say 13") but
higher definition screen will be as easy to see as a larger but lower
definition screen? Again, MS Word.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:43 PM, Mike Shaljian 
wrote:

> I can throw in a +1 for the Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" monitor that The
> Wirecutter recommends. I've got two of them (one at work and one at home)
> and I love the IPS panel, very easy on the eyes when looking at lots of
> documents and spreadsheets (as I do). I'm not sure if you're limiting the
> screen size to 17" for budget or space purposes, but I would think two of
> these would be side-by-side would be a killer setup.
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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-14 Thread Philip Kim
Thanks for this website, super useful

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 10:59:27 PM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
>
> For advice on best bang for your buck including budget picks and step up 
> picks, check out The Wirecutter. http://thewirecutter.com/?s=monitor
>
> They test things extremely well and take the hassle out of research. I'm a 
> huge fan and they've yet to steer me wrong (nor has their better half, 
> TheSweetHome).
>
> -Justin, who prefers one HUGE monitor over multiples
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:02:40 PM UTC-8, Scott G. wrote:
>>
>> Two screen have been the standard since 1987 or so. Graphic interfaces
>> have so many dialog and control widgets that can live on a second screen
>> along with the source material and email clients etc.
>> You don't need another desk look at VESA mount arms that can hold the
>> screen off the desk, some can rotate the screen to a full page view.
>> Ergotron was the arm manufacturer favored by those spending other peoples
>> money.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-13 Thread Mike Shaljian
I can throw in a +1 for the Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" monitor that The 
Wirecutter recommends. I've got two of them (one at work and one at home) and I 
love the IPS panel, very easy on the eyes when looking at lots of documents and 
spreadsheets (as I do). I'm not sure if you're limiting the screen size to 17" 
for budget or space purposes, but I would think two of these would be 
side-by-side would be a killer setup. 

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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-13 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for all the responses, which I am digesting. First step is to get a
capable work surface (sorry, support arms won't work in this arrangement),
and I am investigating options.

Any further comments welcome.


Thank you again.


PAM

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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-10 Thread Justin August
For advice on best bang for your buck including budget picks and step up 
picks, check out The Wirecutter. http://thewirecutter.com/?s=monitor

They test things extremely well and take the hassle out of research. I'm a 
huge fan and they've yet to steer me wrong (nor has their better half, 
TheSweetHome).

-Justin, who prefers one HUGE monitor over multiples

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:02:40 PM UTC-8, Scott G. wrote:
>
> Two screen have been the standard since 1987 or so. Graphic interfaces
> have so many dialog and control widgets that can live on a second screen
> along with the source material and email clients etc.
> You don't need another desk look at VESA mount arms that can hold the
> screen off the desk, some can rotate the screen to a full page view.
> Ergotron was the arm manufacturer favored by those spending other peoples
> money.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-10 Thread Scott G.
Two screen have been the standard since 1987 or so. Graphic interfaces
have so many dialog and control widgets that can live on a second screen
along with the source material and email clients etc.
You don't need another desk look at VESA mount arms that can hold the
screen off the desk, some can rotate the screen to a full page view.
Ergotron was the arm manufacturer favored by those spending other peoples
money.


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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Might was well add: my office is in the living room, and I want a desk or
work space that closes up and looks decent; either flip up cover or
armoire-type doors. A 36" or 40" work surface.

Any suggestions for this sort of work station?

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I probably should have answered this question long ago, but tell me, you
> who work a lot on computers, particularly those of you who write: are you
> more productive with 2 or even 3 screens than with 1? I assume a situation
> where you refer to multiple open documents.
>
> #2: if yes, would the advantage in your case justify the cost of 2 new
> screens and a new (larger) desk? (I expect to spend at least 2-3K on a good
> desk -- my present armoire desk can't accommodate more than 1 screen.)
>
> #3: Again, if yes: what brands and models would you recommend for decent
> but not necessarily top level 17" screens? This is for fancy word
> processing, not graphics.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> **
> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
> circumference on which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities
> revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
>


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[RBW] Re: OT: questions about multiple computer screens

2016-01-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
I love side x side auto arrange (or whatever it is called) on my Mac. It's 
great for editing or any writing where I have to reference a second 
document. However, for writing, writing, I love the focus of iA Writer in 
full screen, focus mode (keeps text in the bottom 1/3rd like a typewriter, 
and grays out all but the sentence I'm writing. I try and use my Kindle as 
my main reference when needed instead of the split screen. I also utilize 
the multiple desktops and easily navigate with trackpad gestures. But a lot 
of that is dependent on your OS and your working style. For me, too much 
"noise" or "clutter" on the screen distracts me, but then I do 1/2 a ting 
at a time, and that poorly.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:46:58 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I probably should have answered this question long ago, but tell me, you 
> who work a lot on computers, particularly those of you who write: are you 
> more productive with 2 or even 3 screens than with 1? I assume a situation 
> where you refer to multiple open documents. 
>
> #2: if yes, would the advantage in your case justify the cost of 2 new 
> screens and a new (larger) desk? (I expect to spend at least 2-3K on a good 
> desk -- my present armoire desk can't accommodate more than 1 screen.)
>
> #3: Again, if yes: what brands and models would you recommend for decent 
> but not necessarily top level 17" screens? This is for fancy word 
> processing, not graphics.
>
> Thanks.
>
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