[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Don't be confused. It's not that complicated. If you run a taller straddle, it takes less brake lever travel to get the brake pads to hit the rim. So to get the same travel on your hand, you run the brake pads father away from the rim. More rim clearance. If you run a shorter straddle, the brake lever feel at your hand is spongier. To avoid feeling like you are squishing the brake lever all the way to the bars, you run your brakes tight, and you don't have as much rim clearance. On Apr 13, 9:30 pm, happyriding wrote: > On Apr 13, 11:47 am, William wrote: > > > > > > That's exactly the term and the trade off I use when setting up > > cantilevers. Shorter flatter straddle => more spongy but more > > powerful. Taller straddle => more rim clearance and more pukka- > > pukka. > > I'm confused. Why does a taller straddle (if I'm understanding what > that means) give more rim clearance? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
On Apr 13, 11:47 am, William wrote: > > > That's exactly the term and the trade off I use when setting up > cantilevers. Shorter flatter straddle => more spongy but more > powerful. Taller straddle => more rim clearance and more pukka- > pukka. I'm confused. Why does a taller straddle (if I'm understanding what that means) give more rim clearance? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
46/30 and the cassette is a 9 speed 13-30. On Apr 13, 4:13 pm, William wrote: > Steve > > What size rings are you running on your TAs? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Steve What size rings are you running on your TAs? On Apr 13, 12:40 pm, stevep33 wrote: > The tape is a hold-over from when I had the Tektro 538's. The fender > was touching the caliper, and the tape dampened the vibration/rattle > when going over bumps. The tape isn't needed anymore with the new > Paul brakes; there is no fender/caliper contact. The wheel clears > without deflating too. > > On Apr 13, 3:10 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > > > On Apr 13, 2:39 pm, stevep33 wrote: > > > >I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > > >high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. > > > Hi, Steve - looks great! I noticed the tape on the fender - I assume > > this is b/c the arms touch when you open them up to release the > > wheel? does the wheel clear without deflating? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
On Apr 13, 3:40 pm, stevep33 wrote: > The tape isn't needed anymore with the new > Paul brakes; there is no fender/caliper contact. The wheel clears > without deflating too. sweet. nice set-up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
The tape is a hold-over from when I had the Tektro 538's. The fender was touching the caliper, and the tape dampened the vibration/rattle when going over bumps. The tape isn't needed anymore with the new Paul brakes; there is no fender/caliper contact. The wheel clears without deflating too. On Apr 13, 3:10 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Apr 13, 2:39 pm, stevep33 wrote: > > >I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > >high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. > > Hi, Steve - looks great! I noticed the tape on the fender - I assume > this is b/c the arms touch when you open them up to release the > wheel? does the wheel clear without deflating? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Hilsen is different, indeed. Rob - Oh, I'm just thinking out loud. I think the Ram/Rom shines with 27/28mm tires. The fact that they can run 35s or 37s makes them great for dirt, too. Just a great all-around bike. The Ms are very attractive brakes, for sure. If they fit a 40-ish Honjos and 30mm tires, that will open up some possibilities for people. I have no tire in mind... just want to see how far these tires will stretch the bike! I wonder what they could do for a Roadeo. On Apr 13, 12:26 pm, rperks wrote: > Esteban, > What 700x40 do you hace in mind? > > Likewise these seem like a viable reason to spend money and keep the > rom. > > Rob > > On Apr 13, 10:41 am, Esteban wrote: > > > > > I wonder what's the fattest tire that would fit on a Ram/Rom under > > some Paul Ms??? > > > If you could fit a 40... that's pretty close to "Hilsen-izing" those > > bikes! Without the rack mounts, of course. > > > Esteban > > San Diego, Calif. > > > On Apr 12, 6:34 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 12:54 -0700, Jason wrote: > > > > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > > > > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > > > > creating a spongy feeling. > > > > Why would it be any different from every sidepull brake, all of which > > > mount on a center bolt?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Esteban, What 700x40 do you hace in mind? Likewise these seem like a viable reason to spend money and keep the rom. Rob On Apr 13, 10:41 am, Esteban wrote: > I wonder what's the fattest tire that would fit on a Ram/Rom under > some Paul Ms??? > > If you could fit a 40... that's pretty close to "Hilsen-izing" those > bikes! Without the rack mounts, of course. > > Esteban > San Diego, Calif. > > On Apr 12, 6:34 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 12:54 -0700, Jason wrote: > > > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > > > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > > > creating a spongy feeling. > > > Why would it be any different from every sidepull brake, all of which > > mount on a center bolt?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
On Apr 13, 2:39 pm, stevep33 wrote: >I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount >high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Hi, Steve - looks great! I noticed the tape on the fender - I assume this is b/c the arms touch when you open them up to release the wheel? does the wheel clear without deflating? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
I wonder. You might fit a 700x40 without a fender on a Rambouillet with the Paul R.M's, but a Hilsen will fit that 700x40 tire with a fender with room to spare; that is a whole other category of fat. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/4099703484/ On Apr 13, 1:41 pm, Esteban wrote: > I wonder what's the fattest tire that would fit on a Ram/Rom under > some Paul Ms??? > > If you could fit a 40... that's pretty close to "Hilsen-izing" those > bikes! Without the rack mounts, of course. > > Esteban > San Diego, Calif. > > On Apr 12, 6:34 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 12:54 -0700, Jason wrote: > > > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > > > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > > > creating a spongy feeling. > > > Why would it be any different from every sidepull brake, all of which > > mount on a center bolt? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
That's exactly the term and the trade off I use when setting up cantilevers. Shorter flatter straddle => more spongy but more powerful. Taller straddle => more rim clearance and more pukka- pukka. I picked up pukka-pukka in 1988, working at a shop. I remember the mechanic who taught me the term. On Apr 12, 12:08 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 4/11/10 12:54 PM, Jason at j.achil...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > > creating a spongy feeling. > > assuming "flew" = "flex" ;^) > > Without getting deeply into general brake design, "sponginess" you feel at > the lever has more to do with the specific mechanical advantage. Brakes > that feel "hard" (or as we used to call 'em - "pukka-pukka") are less > powerful. Sheldon wrote it more elegantly than I can relate here: > > http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html > > Flexing on the bolt is not too likely, but if it occurred, I would suspect > it would create chatter as it moved on the rim, rather than a change in > feel. Again, there I think you'd find the rear wheel locked before flex like > that could occur. > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Your Photos are needed! -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > "I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.." > -- Cyril, "Breaking Away" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
I wonder what's the fattest tire that would fit on a Ram/Rom under some Paul Ms??? If you could fit a 40... that's pretty close to "Hilsen-izing" those bikes! Without the rack mounts, of course. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 12, 6:34 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 12:54 -0700, Jason wrote: > > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > > creating a spongy feeling. > > Why would it be any different from every sidepull brake, all of which > mount on a center bolt? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 12:54 -0700, Jason wrote: > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > creating a spongy feeling. Why would it be any different from every sidepull brake, all of which mount on a center bolt? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
on 4/11/10 12:54 PM, Jason at j.achil...@gmail.com wrote: > Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice > powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, > creating a spongy feeling. assuming "flew" = "flex" ;^) Without getting deeply into general brake design, "sponginess" you feel at the lever has more to do with the specific mechanical advantage. Brakes that feel "hard" (or as we used to call 'em - "pukka-pukka") are less powerful. Sheldon wrote it more elegantly than I can relate here: http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html Flexing on the bolt is not too likely, but if it occurred, I would suspect it would create chatter as it moved on the rim, rather than a change in feel. Again, there I think you'd find the rear wheel locked before flex like that could occur. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.." -- Cyril, "Breaking Away" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Oh, I was not implying that it would snap, rather if this nice powerful brake with loads of modulation would flew on that bolt, creating a spongy feeling. j. On Apr 11, 1:18 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > on 4/11/10 7:34 AM, Jason at j.achil...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I would love to hear reviews of the center mount Racers. With a brake > > this strong on a center mount, is there any noticeable flex in the > > brake? I can see the support from the post mounted version, but can > > see the center bolt being overpowered under hard braking. > > I think realistically, you will start skidding (which then effectively > reduces the forces at the brake) long before you snap the bolt or ovalize > the hole. > > Of course, that assumes properly a torqued bolt. > > Gino was running one of the prototypes last August and I watched it work > very well for him on a tricky descent. His report at the time (you might > search archives here as it's popped up a few times while in proto-mode) was > little to no discernable flex in the brake. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/3780328670/ > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Get your photos posted:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > "Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and > just like that I knew it was dead" > > -- Robert McCammon, "Boy's Life" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
I had a chance to ride today and the brakes work great. I didn't notice any flex or other issues. The brakes feel good when braking hard. They seem to apply power intuitively; you can apply moderate and even power or go ahead and lock up the wheels. Very nice overall. There was a bit of squeal in the front brake at first, but that went away after several miles; maybe the pads needed some break-in. I'm not sure I'll even toe-in the pads. On Apr 11, 10:34 am, Jason wrote: > I would love to hear reviews of the center mount Racers. With a brake > this strong on a center mount, is there any noticeable flex in the > brake? I can see the support from the post mounted version, but can > see the center bolt being overpowered under hard braking. > > Looks wonderful! > > j. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
These are actually Honjo 41's that I got from Harris Cyclery. I am told that Honjo's vary a few mm's batch to batch, so maybe they shoot for 43 and get something a bit bigger or smaller. Harris calls them 41's or maybe 40's. The Grand Bois tires measure almost exactly 30mm on my Mavic Open Pro rims, but they are relatively narrow rims and rim width affects the inflated tire width. The fenders pair well with the tires. I would not run a fatter tire, such as a 32 Pasela, with this fender. A Honjo 43 or 45 would probably be a better choice for a slightly wider tire, and I think they would fit just fine with the Paul Racer M's. On Apr 11, 10:18 am, Esteban wrote: > Wow! That looks like a lot more clearance. Goodness. So... so they > fit 43/45mm Honjos? Their sometimes measured at either size. Is that > what you mean by 40mm? > > And with the Grand Bois! Those measure closer to 32 in real life, > right? Bravo. You and Paul have maybe just given Ram/Rom owners some > breathing room. > > Esteban > San Diego, Calif. > > On Apr 11, 7:03 am, "clevewh...@gmail.com" > wrote: > > > > > Could you tell us what front and rear cable hangers you used - brand > > and model. You'd think they were easy to find but here... I have a > > pair of the regular Paul's center-pulls I'd like to use. Thanks > > > On Apr 10, 4:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > > > > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > > > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > > > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > > > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > > > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > > > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > > > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > > > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > > > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > > > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > > > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > > > time for a full test ride. > > > > I put together a set of photos on my > > > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
I just used the hangers that are included with the brakes. I think if I were to replace the hangers, I'd get the Grand Cru hangers that VO sells, but the ones I included with the brakes work just fine On Apr 11, 10:03 am, "clevewh...@gmail.com" wrote: > Could you tell us what front and rear cable hangers you used - brand > and model. You'd think they were easy to find but here... I have a > pair of the regular Paul's center-pulls I'd like to use. Thanks > > On Apr 10, 4:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
on 4/11/10 7:34 AM, Jason at j.achil...@gmail.com wrote: > I would love to hear reviews of the center mount Racers. With a brake > this strong on a center mount, is there any noticeable flex in the > brake? I can see the support from the post mounted version, but can > see the center bolt being overpowered under hard braking. I think realistically, you will start skidding (which then effectively reduces the forces at the brake) long before you snap the bolt or ovalize the hole. Of course, that assumes properly a torqued bolt. Gino was running one of the prototypes last August and I watched it work very well for him on a tricky descent. His report at the time (you might search archives here as it's popped up a few times while in proto-mode) was little to no discernable flex in the brake. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/3780328670/ - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead" -- Robert McCammon, "Boy's Life" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
I would love to hear reviews of the center mount Racers. With a brake this strong on a center mount, is there any noticeable flex in the brake? I can see the support from the post mounted version, but can see the center bolt being overpowered under hard braking. Looks wonderful! j. On Apr 10, 7:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > time for a full test ride. > > I put together a set of photos on my > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Uh-oh... I may need to make some modifications to my Rambouillet... The brakes, fenders and tires look like a great combo--stylish and practical. --mike On Apr 10, 4:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > time for a full test ride. > > I put together a set of photos on my > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
One reason I didn't bring the Ram this weekend is that I use Jack Browns on it exclusively now, and I have therefore ruled out fenders on the bike, and there is a chance of rain. What if Jack Browns and fenders become a reality on the Ram... -Jim W. -Original Message- >From: Esteban >Sent: Apr 11, 2010 10:18 AM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet > >Wow! That looks like a lot more clearance. Goodness. So... so they >fit 43/45mm Honjos? Their sometimes measured at either size. Is that >what you mean by 40mm? > >And with the Grand Bois! Those measure closer to 32 in real life, >right? Bravo. You and Paul have maybe just given Ram/Rom owners some >breathing room. > >Esteban >San Diego, Calif. > >On Apr 11, 7:03 am, "clevewh...@gmail.com" >wrote: >> Could you tell us what front and rear cable hangers you used - brand >> and model. You'd think they were easy to find but here... I have a >> pair of the regular Paul's center-pulls I'd like to use. Thanks >> >> On Apr 10, 4:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: >> >> >> >> > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount >> > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. >> > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there >> > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. >> > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more >> > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once >> > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- >> > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, >> > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already >> > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads >> > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow >> > time for a full test ride. >> >> > I put together a set of photos on my >> > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Wow! That looks like a lot more clearance. Goodness. So... so they fit 43/45mm Honjos? Their sometimes measured at either size. Is that what you mean by 40mm? And with the Grand Bois! Those measure closer to 32 in real life, right? Bravo. You and Paul have maybe just given Ram/Rom owners some breathing room. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 11, 7:03 am, "clevewh...@gmail.com" wrote: > Could you tell us what front and rear cable hangers you used - brand > and model. You'd think they were easy to find but here... I have a > pair of the regular Paul's center-pulls I'd like to use. Thanks > > On Apr 10, 4:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > > > > > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > > time for a full test ride. > > > I put together a set of photos on my > > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Could you tell us what front and rear cable hangers you used - brand and model. You'd think they were easy to find but here... I have a pair of the regular Paul's center-pulls I'd like to use. Thanks On Apr 10, 4:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > time for a full test ride. > > I put together a set of photos on my > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Looks like Paul designed them specifically for the Rambouillet. Nice bike, Steve! Best, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Gorgeous. Worth every penny! On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > Very nice. Paul really outdid themselves with those brakes. I expect > they will find their way onto many a nice bike - such as your lovely > Ram. > > On Apr 10, 6:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > > time for a full test ride. > > > > I put together a set of photos on my Flickr. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Racer M's on my Rambouillet
Very nice. Paul really outdid themselves with those brakes. I expect they will find their way onto many a nice bike - such as your lovely Ram. On Apr 10, 6:55 pm, stevep33 wrote: > I just installed a set of the Paul Racer M brakes, the center mount > high polish one's, on my Rambouillet. Major piece of bike bling. > They replaced a pair Tektro R538's. The Tektro's worked well and there > was just enough clearance for Honjo 41mm fenders and Grand Bois 30's. > That said, the Paul brakes are a nice upgrade: better clearance, more > power and very pretty. Installation was pretty straight-forward once > I found a rear cable hanger short enough for my 56cm frame and an in- > line cable adjuster. I haven't fiddled too much with the brakes yet, > not having had time to ride any significant distances, but I already > like these brakes after a short trip around the block. The brake pads > may need some toe-in still. Tomorrow or the next day should allow > time for a full test ride. > > I put together a set of photos on my > Flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157623702627095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
