[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
Yup...what Michael said Whenever I'm riding thru a corner I always have the inside leg up ...but if I do pedal the inside leg is usually in the right place. Both my Rivs do have TCO, as does my PX-10 with the fatty 37mm Paselas. I know TCO is a deal-breaker for some, but I seldom hit my foot. I won't say I've never done it; just saying rarely. On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:11:08 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: I think for proper analysis we are going to need extensive postings of pictures of this long low...:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
I had pedal strike for the first time on my 650b converted Ram this last weekend. I was doing a U-turn on a street and was pedaling while leaning quite a bit to do the U-turn. Luckily like all other times I've struck the pedal to the ground, I bounced off the ground and had no issues... Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
I've grounded a pedal on the fixed Quickbeam a couple of times, once landing me in the street (funky turn across a speed bump), and more than once a big hop of the rear wheel. I also broke the insides of a fairly rare Fichtel Sachs Automatic hub that way, and while I've replaced the broken driving ring, I haven't really ridden it since. i have lower--profile VP-001s on the Quickbeam now, and I try to remember I can coast through this! on the geared bike. I did that just today, pressing down hard on the outside pedal and leaning hard. I think taking the fun where it comes makes it easier to remember which bike is which. Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:44:52 PM UTC-7, IanA wrote: Well, winter has finally passed and the road grit has mostly been swept away, so the LongLow came out of storage (the livingroom - where else?) and I was enjoying whipping along at speeds I'd all but forgotten about on my 80's mountain bike that continues reliably in all conditions, but is dogged about it. The problem is that the mountain bike has a high bottom bracket and will not pedal strike even when pedaling during tight lean through turn. First day out on the LL this year and I hit speeds of 55km/h (downhill), but even on the flats the computer told me 40 km/h once or twice. Such fun. Sadly, at quite low speed thankfully, I turned sharply, pedaling through grounding my pedal and stalling the bike. The pannier saved the bike from scratches and I was unscathed. A little rubber shaved off the bar end shifter. It used to be my habit to coast through hard turns with the pedal in the 12 o clock position on the lean side. I'm concerned that I've been retrained by my mountain bike. I'm worried that I'll forget one time too many. Does this happen to anyone else? If so, does the body remember when the mind is absent? The LL has such a low bb that if one forgets pedal strike is to be expected. Ian A/the unfrozen north. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
I'd consider getting different pedals. The lean angle allowed by pedals varies significantly, and if you have some wide pedals with big cages, you can pick up a lot of clearance... If you have pedals that allow a decent lean angle and still strike your pedals, then I'd consider coasting instead. Pedaling around fast corners is not a good habit. I learned this when racing, on a criterium course in Portland on wide streets. I broke away and was hoping to stay away until the finish. In a few corners, my pedals lightly touched the ground during every lap, until, with one lap to go, I touched a little harder and crashed. I think it was Greg LeMond who said that if you can pedal through a corner, it means you weren't going fast enough on the straights. At slow speeds, you often have to pedal around corners just to stay upright. In those situations, you aren't leaning much, and toe overlap is your big problem, not pedal strike. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
On one of my bikes, I have stiff plastic toe-straps. (I think they are actually Campy straps) The ends of the straps sort of point downward from the end of the pedal. They work sort of like a pedal-strike warning whisker. I know to back off if the strap starts brushing the road... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
My habit is to pedal all my bikes according to the one with the least clearance. You're never going to train your brain to 'remember' which bike you're on. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:44:52 PM UTC-7, IanA wrote: Well, winter has finally passed and the road grit has mostly been swept away, so the LongLow came out of storage (the livingroom - where else?) and I was enjoying whipping along at speeds I'd all but forgotten about on my 80's mountain bike that continues reliably in all conditions, but is dogged about it. The problem is that the mountain bike has a high bottom bracket and will not pedal strike even when pedaling during tight lean through turn. First day out on the LL this year and I hit speeds of 55km/h (downhill), but even on the flats the computer told me 40 km/h once or twice. Such fun. Sadly, at quite low speed thankfully, I turned sharply, pedaling through grounding my pedal and stalling the bike. The pannier saved the bike from scratches and I was unscathed. A little rubber shaved off the bar end shifter. It used to be my habit to coast through hard turns with the pedal in the 12 o clock position on the lean side. I'm concerned that I've been retrained by my mountain bike. I'm worried that I'll forget one time too many. Does this happen to anyone else? If so, does the body remember when the mind is absent? The LL has such a low bb that if one forgets pedal strike is to be expected. Ian A/the unfrozen north. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
Thank you for this insight - the pedals are wide, so I've now got a narrower set - I think it will make quite a big difference. I'm never going fast enough on the straights, so I have no excuse for pedaling through corners, but hopefully the new pedals will go some way to mitigate my sloth. IanA. On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:15:06 AM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote: I'd consider getting different pedals. The lean angle allowed by pedals varies significantly, and if you have some wide pedals with big cages, you can pick up a lot of clearance... If you have pedals that allow a decent lean angle and still strike your pedals, then I'd consider coasting instead. Pedaling around fast corners is not a good habit. I learned this when racing, on a criterium course in Portland on wide streets. I broke away and was hoping to stay away until the finish. In a few corners, my pedals lightly touched the ground during every lap, until, with one lap to go, I touched a little harder and crashed. I think it was Greg LeMond who said that if you can pedal through a corner, it means you weren't going fast enough on the straights. At slow speeds, you often have to pedal around corners just to stay upright. In those situations, you aren't leaning much, and toe overlap is your big problem, not pedal strike. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
I think for proper analysis we are going to need extensive postings of pictures of this long low...:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow
I have scraped bottom a coupla times. Now I just keep the inboard foot up when I go into the turn, and I have my mind focused on doing that and not pedaling through the turn. Sometimes I do pedal, but I know that is a no-no. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
