[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-28 Thread Bill Connell

> On Jan 27, 3:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
> wrote:
>> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
>> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
>> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
>> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
>> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...


I'm not a QB owner, but i had a bike set up with a 3-cog/SS setup ala
Lon Haldeman for over a year, so i thought about the gear changing
thing quite a bit. The bike was set up with a 42t ring, and 16-18-20t
cogs in the rear. It was a Surly Crosscheck, and the dropouts handled
that spread with no problem, even the brake adjustment was fine.

Anyway, i probably changed gears less than a half-dozen times over the
year: once from the 20 to the 16 in the spring, then to the 18 for
most of the summer when i wanted to spin more. A couple of times for
trailer hauling, then maybe once again for cyclocross season. I never
changed mid-ride, just changed when the intended conditions or usage
seemed to warrant it. That bike now has a standard flip/flop wheel;
both sides same cog side, just the choice to coast or not now.

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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-28 Thread reynoldslugs

My gearing set up may set a record for biggest wienie.  What can I
say, I'm 100kg and ride some steep hills.

"stock" chainrings - 32/40.  Flip flop rear hub = 17 fixed gear cog,
and on the other side (let me introduce you to my leetle fren), a
White Industries 23 tooth single cog freewheel.

The combo is very, very handy for Sonoma County rides. I typically due
just one gear change, from the high fixed gear to the LOW freewheel.
40/17 fixed down Hiway 12, then into the 32/23 to ride CX in Annadell
park, or climb Los Alamos Rd.  The QB is a very competent, fun CX
bike.  I ride steep, rocky singletrack comfortably - lots of other
riders out there on dual suspension on these trails.



On Jan 28, 8:27 am, usuk2007  wrote:
> I have 40/32 crank and 16/18 and 22 freewheels on my QB. 90%
> of the time I'm in 40/16. 32/22 is for tough hills. I rarely use the
> other
> combos.
>
> I'll be credit card touring through England on it in late spring so I
> might use more of the gears then,
>
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/England2009

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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-28 Thread usuk2007

I have 40/32 crank and 16/18 and 22 freewheels on my QB. 90%
of the time I'm in 40/16. 32/22 is for tough hills. I rarely use the
other
combos.

I'll be credit card touring through England on it in late spring so I
might use more of the gears then,

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/England2009
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Mojo

I have spent some considerable effort and money to maximize my Q
gearing...that I don't use!
http://tinyurl.com/43md96

Actually I use the 71 inch for most valley road riding, switch to
63inch for non-gnarly dirt. The lower gears are designed to get me up
the surrounding hills here in Western Colorado especially the Monument
ride:  http://www.nps.gov/colm/planyourvisit/bicycling.htm  But I find
stopping to change gears at least 4 times for such hilly rides breaks
the ride rhythm too much for my tastes. So for awhile now I haven't
used the Q for this ride

Also I have been free vs fixed all this cold season and loving a
freecog. I seem to go thru free/fixed phases, generally following the
seasons.

As for gear changing, I now use my dirt lube of choice on the Q, White
Lightning. Needs to be reapplied often, but keeps my chain clean in
the fine dust here and my fingers clean when I change gears. One
cheap, thin rubber glove in my side saddlebag pocket helps with gear
changes.

On Jan 27, 4:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Bill Rhea

I love trails, but here in San Mateo County, CA they're all pretty
upsey-downsey

My QB is all about the mostly flat commute and 90 minute, rolling (but
not extended upsey-downsey) rides on the weekend through Portola
Valley and Woodside.  Especially in inclement weather.  This is what
it looks like:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Wheelsmith91/Quickbeam#

He (She?) wears 37c Panaracer tires and Berthoud 50mm fenders, so
flipping the hub is a PITA for me.  I got a Romulus about 18 months
later, but until then I would occasionally shift to a 32x18 for some
long climbs (with some paperboy weave) and rode almost exclusively
fixed on it until recently.  Now it's 46x16 with a White 16/18 Dos.

Still thinking about a Sunrace/SA 3sp fixed epicyclic hub and barcon
shifter

-br

On Jan 27, 10:36 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 1/27/09 3:30 PM, colin p. cummings at colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> > changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> > frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> > live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> > changing gears to climb out of a canyon...


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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread CycloFiend

on 1/27/09 3:30 PM, colin p. cummings at colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...

The great thing about that bicycle is its versatility - you can set it up
precisely for the type of riding you encounter.

I would tend to start simply and do the things that make sense for your
style of riding and the conditions you encounter.

The place I tend to make a gearing change is usually the transition from
road to trail, as sometimes its a long road jaunt to the trailhead. I think
it matters whether or not you are going to set up a fixed gear on the
Quickbeam.  Or maybe not.  Lately, I've been riding narrower trails on the
fixed setup. And openly wondering about my sanity.  Having fun, though.

But, the weird thing is that on the bigger gear, it feels to me that you
have more time to correct for trail obstacles. A few times, I've almost had
the feeling that I was leveling the pedals. Slow speed + big gears.

On the QB, since it takes a moment or two to shift, the question is often
whether conditions warrant it. If you haven't ridden a singlespeed before,
you'll probably find that you'll learn a lot about maintaining momentum in
the first month or so of riding.

If I change gears 4 times in a longer ride, that's probably a lot.
Typically if I'm going to have a long, twisty descent, I prefer a coastable
setup. Technical trail work is usually in the stock 40 x 18. A long climb
will use the 32. Otherwise, I'm running it fixed.

A couple of longer QB ride reports here:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/brevet/2007_200k.html
http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=186

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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread BPustow
My last post made me think. I came over to steel lugged  Rivendells from 
riding a LItespeed Vortex ( the one Lance used, painted as an  Eddie Merx, 
while 
riding for Motorola), and, while I still love and ride  the Litespeed, I never 
felt the need to give it a name as I've done with Homer,  Maureen, and Hunter.
   Is it just me?
Bill
 
 
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  While we do have enough hills that require a bike with a triple, I  haven't 
taken Maureen on those routes. The longest I've taken her is on a club  60 
miler - and enjoyed every minute
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Angus

Colin,

I ride my Quickbeam in the Tyler TX area and find my self shifting
less and less frequently.  I pick a geat at the begining of the ride
and stick with it.  If I end up with a long slog into the wind or a
steep uphill, I would drop it down a gear...assuming I'm not already
in the low one.

Angus

On Jan 27, 5:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread David Estes
Love reading all the comments, great question!

I switch gears VERY rarely.  Only on pretty steep roads and/or dirt trails.
Dropping from the 40 to the 32 is VERY easy.  I just use my thump nail or a
nearby rock to avoid getting greasy.  I never flip to fixed/free during a
ride though.

If you're riding in the flatlands, don't bother worrying about it, just find
the right gear (unless there's wind, as mentioned).

DE

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM, colin p. cummings  wrote:

>
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread erik jensen
i'm 48x19, fixed. Soon to be 48x18 since i got used to much more rolling
resistance from my winter bike--i spin that gear out on the flats anymore,
and don't need the advantage of prime cogs as i don't skid stop on the beam.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dan  wrote:

>
> I don't think that I have ever shifted mine but I plan on doing some
> more riding on unpaved trails this spring and I can see switching to
> the smaller chainring for the off road portions as I have found the 40
> x16 I usually run a little tall for any offroad with a bit of  hills.
>
> Dan Abelson
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Jan 27, 5:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
> wrote:
> > As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> > changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> > frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> > live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> > changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Colin Cummings
> > Amarillo, TX
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread BPustow
Colin,
   Here in Kentucky, I never change gears on the Quickbeam.  While it's hard 
to find a flat road, most of the hills are short enough that it  would not be 
worth my while to shift at the bottom and again at the top. 
   While we do have enough hills that require a bike with a  triple, I 
haven't taken Maureen on those routes. The longest I've taken her is  on a club 
60 
miler - and enjoyed every minute
Bill
 
 
 
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As a  survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
changing on a  regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
frame and am  wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
live in a  pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
changing gears to  climb out of a canyon...


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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Dan

I don't think that I have ever shifted mine but I plan on doing some
more riding on unpaved trails this spring and I can see switching to
the smaller chainring for the off road portions as I have found the 40
x16 I usually run a little tall for any offroad with a bit of  hills.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

On Jan 27, 5:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread fiddlr40

I shift to 32-20 for climbing Mt Diablo or for riding on mountain
trails -- otherwise it stays 40-16, so I don't shift very often. I
could probably change to one chainring and 2 rear cogs if I wanted to
find the right combination, but I'm too lazy to do that.

Jim M
walnut creek

On Jan 27, 3:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread RonLau

I know one QB rider actually switches gear in the middle of the ride.
It only takes a minute if you done it a few times but I will not do
that myself.  Not because one minute will change the ride, but I don't
like getting cold and get grease on my fingers if I don't have to.

For a while I was going to do a 42/39 in the front and 17/20 in the
rear fixedgear, but after a while I drop that idea because when I ride
fixedgear, I ride one gear.  If I want gears, I bring my other bike
with gears.

Just my 2 cents.

On Jan 27, 4:03 pm, Elfardo  wrote:
> Hey Colin,
>
> Man, I don't think I'd bother with 4 gears up in the flatlands. I ride
> two (68 inches and 53 inches I think) down here in Austin and that's
> plenty.
>
> I've considered getting a dos for the hill country but kinda doubt I
> will anytime soon. Just doesn't seem like I need to. Of course, the
> hills aren't as much of an issue as wind up on the caprock. Still, I
> think the 50ish inch low gear would work fine.
>
> You're going to dig the Quickbeam.  If I make it up to see the kinfolk
> with my QB we'll have to find some dirt roads to ride.
>
> Ride on,
> Clif Wright
>
> On Jan 27, 5:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
> wrote:
>
> > As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> > changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> > frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> > live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> > changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Colin Cummings
> > Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Ray Shine
Colin -- I live in San Francisco, and do most of my riding in the city, Marin 
County to the north, and San Mateo/Santa Clara to the south.  All in all, many 
more hills than flats, and many steep rides (I enjoy climbing).  I have 
configured my QB with stock chain rings, but a White Industries 16/18 free on 
the drive side, and a 20 free on the flip side. After all of that, I do about 
65% of my riding in the 40x18, another30% in the 32x18, and I use the flip side 
20 for long extended climbs up Mt Tam in Marin, or Mt. Diablo in the east bay.  
I can't remember when I last used the 16. For the record, I'm no hammer rider, 
I just tool along.

Ray

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From: colin p. cummings 
Subject: [RBW] QB gear changes
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 3:30 PM

As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
changing gears to climb out of a canyon...

Cheers,

Colin Cummings
Amarillo, TX


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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Bill Gibson

I sprang for a dos, and I, too, just pick a gear and ride on any given
ride. I live in a schizoid region which is as flat as Amarillo (inside
the Phoenix AZ metro sprawl), and as hilly as it gets anywhere on the
roads (White Mountains and Mogollon Rim, basic Basin and Range,
Mountain and Abyss topography). Wind is wind, and sometimes no gear
makes much of a difference, but I always tell myself to gear low and
ride slow to save the knees, it's the airspeed that matters, etc. I
got it with the idea that when touring (I tend to ride heavy with
gear), I wouldn't be stopped, just left behind...

However, it's the smooth and sophisticated machining of the cogs (my
imagination?) and the expensive Salt-Water Fly-Fishing Reel sound of
the all those pawls that really made more of an impression on me, once
I got it. It's louder than cheaper freewheels when coasting, but in
town and down fast runs and on long days, I'm not fixed, I'm free. I
like riding fixed, just not so much in homicidal urban traffic. And I
feel like I'm riding a bike I can ride forever, anywhere. Just not too
hastily. Hoom.

See Kent Peterson's post:
http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2009/01/tringle-speed-bicycle.html

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Elfardo  wrote:
>
> Hey Colin,
>
> Man, I don't think I'd bother with 4 gears up in the flatlands. I ride
> two (68 inches and 53 inches I think) down here in Austin and that's
> plenty.
>
> I've considered getting a dos for the hill country but kinda doubt I
> will anytime soon. Just doesn't seem like I need to. Of course, the
> hills aren't as much of an issue as wind up on the caprock. Still, I
> think the 50ish inch low gear would work fine.
>
> You're going to dig the Quickbeam.  If I make it up to see the kinfolk
> with my QB we'll have to find some dirt roads to ride.
>
> Ride on,
> Clif Wright
>
> On Jan 27, 5:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
> wrote:
>> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
>> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
>> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
>> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
>> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Colin Cummings
>> Amarillo, TX
> >
>



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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Elfardo

Hey Colin,

Man, I don't think I'd bother with 4 gears up in the flatlands. I ride
two (68 inches and 53 inches I think) down here in Austin and that's
plenty.

I've considered getting a dos for the hill country but kinda doubt I
will anytime soon. Just doesn't seem like I need to. Of course, the
hills aren't as much of an issue as wind up on the caprock. Still, I
think the 50ish inch low gear would work fine.

You're going to dig the Quickbeam.  If I make it up to see the kinfolk
with my QB we'll have to find some dirt roads to ride.

Ride on,
Clif Wright

On Jan 27, 5:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Eric Norris

In my humble experience, you pick a gear and stick with it.  I rode  
72" across California and Nevada and for all of Paris-Brest-Paris.  I  
rode all four brevets in the 2007 season and changed gears a total of  
about three times (all on the 600K brevet, and two of those changes to  
were to gear down for several miles of 10% uphill and then back down  
again).

--Eric "Who Needs Gears?" Norris
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On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:30 PM, colin p. cummings wrote:

>
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
> >


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[RBW] Re: QB gear changes

2009-01-27 Thread Jeremy Till

Not a QB, but i do most of my riding on bike with a fixed/SS flip
flop, with a 56" fixed gear and 40-something-ish" freewheel gear.
Whether or not I flip really depends on my mood, but when i do flip to
the lower-geared freewheel it's for an extended climb or
descentmost other times I just keep it fixed.

On Jan 27, 3:30 pm, "colin p. cummings" 
wrote:
> As a survey of sorts, how many QB owners out there do much gear
> changing on a regular or semi-regular basis?  I just bought a used QB
> frame and am wondering if a 4-gear configuration would be worth it.  I
> live in a pretty flat place (TX panhandle) and can only imagine
> changing gears to climb out of a canyon...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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