[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib ...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
I believe Sheldon cautioned us to use the inner rim width to assess tire suitability, not the outer. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib ...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
Of course inner width is important, but there is a close relationship between inner and outer widths. and most manufacturers quote outside width only so ya use what ya got. Sheldon's charts by the way only address the large end of the equation. that is... how big can you go. ~Mike~ On May 6, 3:08 pm, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I believe Sheldon cautioned us to use the inner rim width to assess tire suitability, not the outer. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib ...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://