Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[R Shannon]

Well, I'm the "rubbery" person but you know "slingshot" would have worked
too. Especially if you like to carry a means of self defense when you're
pedaling along.

Best regards,
Richard

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Grant Petersen  wrote:

> Dream was good, probably acceptable given the "low car.." clue, instead of
> carb.
>
> tree to bike: MY answer was cork, but rubber (one person)--that's as good
> or better!
>
> snap prone fork is carbon, but one sharpshooter had aluminum, and...kind
> of works, too.
>
> if I were a dumb millionaire (for the record, even if I accept "dumb" I
> don't qualify!)-- answer was 603, but there could be other answers
>
> favorite answer was "bandana" for equally good undies for hobo or
> billionairre. I meant wool, but hard to not like bandana.
>
> required for car but not for bike: could be many things. I'd intended disc
> brakes, but there were 6-7 other answers that worked--speedometer, rear
> view mirror, glove box (marginal, since Ford won't get sued if they didn't
> include one)..
>
> Only one response so far to Dave's Roughy Toughy Semi-Genuine one. I
> flunked it, but there's a dead-eye amongst you who either missed zero or
> two, depending on how Dave grades it...which goes back to his experience in
> school, whether he jogged left or right.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Dave Johnston  wrote:
>
>> In 2016 I decided to re-read all the readers, I'm up to RR28 right now,
>> so I had an advantage.
>>
>>  I thought I got all of them right but Grant's posted answers disagreed
>> with 3 of them. STI is clearly wrong (it was SIS). 26" was king of the
>> American road from 1930 to 1960s, but I'll give them that it is not quite
>> nearly dead (the industry is just trying). I might be wrong that 32° means
>> holes instead of spokes.
>>
>> I wikipedia'd Buckwheat and recognized Soba instantly as I have one on my
>> Ram. I thought it might be Dove as high carb but the girlfriend who has a
>> dove on her San Marcos made the squab connection and helped with the MUSA
>> connection. Anyway I got a small store credit!
>>
>> -Dave
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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

I got SIS, which easily gives my age away. I guessed 26 x 1-3/8 for "dead wheel 
size", too, which is silly because I know some department store scrap metal 
still uses them. Whoops!

I immediately gave up on Dave's Riveopardy. I'm all out of the smarts!

Joe Bernard

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Grant Petersen]

Dream was good, probably acceptable given the "low car.." clue, instead of
carb.

tree to bike: MY answer was cork, but rubber (one person)--that's as good
or better!

snap prone fork is carbon, but one sharpshooter had aluminum, and...kind of
works, too.

if I were a dumb millionaire (for the record, even if I accept "dumb" I
don't qualify!)-- answer was 603, but there could be other answers

favorite answer was "bandana" for equally good undies for hobo or
billionairre. I meant wool, but hard to not like bandana.

required for car but not for bike: could be many things. I'd intended disc
brakes, but there were 6-7 other answers that worked--speedometer, rear
view mirror, glove box (marginal, since Ford won't get sued if they didn't
include one)..

Only one response so far to Dave's Roughy Toughy Semi-Genuine one. I
flunked it, but there's a dead-eye amongst you who either missed zero or
two, depending on how Dave grades it...which goes back to his experience in
school, whether he jogged left or right.


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> In 2016 I decided to re-read all the readers, I'm up to RR28 right now, so
> I had an advantage.
>
>  I thought I got all of them right but Grant's posted answers disagreed
> with 3 of them. STI is clearly wrong (it was SIS). 26" was king of the
> American road from 1930 to 1960s, but I'll give them that it is not quite
> nearly dead (the industry is just trying). I might be wrong that 32° means
> holes instead of spokes.
>
> I wikipedia'd Buckwheat and recognized Soba instantly as I have one on my
> Ram. I thought it might be Dove as high carb but the girlfriend who has a
> dove on her San Marcos made the squab connection and helped with the MUSA
> connection. Anyway I got a small store credit!
>
> -Dave
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Dave Johnston]

In 2016 I decided to re-read all the readers, I'm up to RR28 right now, so 
I had an advantage.

 I thought I got all of them right but Grant's posted answers disagreed 
with 3 of them. STI is clearly wrong (it was SIS). 26" was king of the 
American road from 1930 to 1960s, but I'll give them that it is not quite 
nearly dead (the industry is just trying). I might be wrong that 32° means 
holes instead of spokes.

I wikipedia'd Buckwheat and recognized Soba instantly as I have one on my 
Ram. I thought it might be Dove as high carb but the girlfriend who has a 
dove on her San Marcos made the squab connection and helped with the MUSA 
connection. Anyway I got a small store credit!

-Dave

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[RichS]

Got the Dove bar but failed on SOBA. Looking forward to the next round. Thanks 
Grant!

Regards,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[dougP]

I got Soba but may have missed Dove, and for sure missed Bombadil.  Loads 
of fun.

dougP

On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 7:42:29 AM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
>
> I did get the Dove one right!  Whew
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 11:36:41 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>
>> Clue should've been high carb / low carB--not "car". And it's a bar we 
>> don't sell anymore. Dove bar. Meat (if a real dove), and ice cream / 
>> chocolate confection for the high carb.
>>
>> Buckwheat was SOBA bar.
>>
>> I'll try to post the key--need roman's help converting excel file to 
>> JPEG. Internet was helpful for non-mac, but I'm on mac. I'm sure it's easy, 
>> but I've had it with trying, so I'll get Roman to show me.
>>
>> sorry for the missing B!
>>
>> G
>>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Philip Williamson]

I did the same, for exactly the same reason. Didn't see the Dream Bar for sale 
on the site, thought it was a winning answer. 
I marked SOBA as being possibly in the wrong category, but "models" might only 
imply bikes, and strictly speaking there could be models of bags, bars, etc...

Philip
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Ryan Fleming]

Me too...I had moustache instead of Noodle for the first bar 
question...didn't do brilliantly but it was a fun quiz and I hope they do 
another one. Always been a fantasy of mine to be a Jeopardy contestant 
one of these days
On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 9:28:19 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The key is up on Grant's Blahg..I did MUCH worse than I thought. I took 
> three stabs at the failed wheel size, all wrong!

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Leslie]

I did get the Dove one right!  Whew



On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 11:36:41 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Clue should've been high carb / low carB--not "car". And it's a bar we 
> don't sell anymore. Dove bar. Meat (if a real dove), and ice cream / 
> chocolate confection for the high carb.
>
> Buckwheat was SOBA bar.
>
> I'll try to post the key--need roman's help converting excel file to JPEG. 
> Internet was helpful for non-mac, but I'm on mac. I'm sure it's easy, but 
> I've had it with trying, so I'll get Roman to show me.
>
> sorry for the missing B!
>
> G
>
>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[iamkeith]

Hmmm.  In the end, I only got 2 wrong, and I like my wrong answers almost as 
much as the actual ones.  In addition to my above-mentioned reference to the 
dicontinued Dream Bar, did you know that the Saluki breed of dogs is 
genetically closer to their wolf ancestors than any other domestic breed?  I 
learned that little tidbit while getting the Romulous answer wrong.

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

The key is up on Grant's Blahg..I did MUCH worse than I thought. I took three 
stabs at the failed wheel size, all wrong!

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Dave]

Ha! I went with moustache, thinking that mousse was probably high carb and 
a 'stache was low carb. Made no sense to me, but thought it was better than 
no answer!

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 8:51:53 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote:
>
> Doh!  I said "dream" bar, as in "fewer cars would be a 'dream'." As is 
> typically the case, i probably did much worse than i thought.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/www.marthastewart.com/350041/gooey-coconut-dream-bars%3Famp
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[iamkeith]

Doh!  I said "dream" bar, as in "fewer cars would be a 'dream'." As is 
typically the case, i probably did much worse than i thought.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.marthastewart.com/350041/gooey-coconut-dream-bars%3Famp

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Jack B]

Ha! Doubtful I could have gotten to Dove bar even with the extra B.

I went with Noodle since it could be considered "low car", i.e. Noodling
around instead of driving. It's a stretch.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:42 AM Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> Easy, once you know the answer...got stumped because the SOBA question was
> in Riv bike models column
>
> Anyway, lots of fun...do more of these
>
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 10:36:41 AM UTC-6, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Clue should've been high carb / low carB--not "car". And it's a bar we
> don't sell anymore. Dove bar. Meat (if a real dove), and ice cream /
> chocolate confection for the high carb.
>
> Buckwheat was SOBA bar.
>
> I'll try to post the key--need roman's help converting excel file to JPEG.
> Internet was helpful for non-mac, but I'm on mac. I'm sure it's easy, but
> I've had it with trying, so I'll get Roman to show me.
>
> sorry for the missing B!
>
> G
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Ryan Fleming]

Easy, once you know the answer...got stumped because the SOBA question was 
in Riv bike models column

Anyway, lots of fun...do more of these

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 10:36:41 AM UTC-6, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Clue should've been high carb / low carB--not "car". And it's a bar we 
> don't sell anymore. Dove bar. Meat (if a real dove), and ice cream / 
> chocolate confection for the high carb.
>
> Buckwheat was SOBA bar.
>
> I'll try to post the key--need roman's help converting excel file to JPEG. 
> Internet was helpful for non-mac, but I'm on mac. I'm sure it's easy, but 
> I've had it with trying, so I'll get Roman to show me.
>
> sorry for the missing B!
>
> G
>
>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Clue should've been high carb / low carB--not "car". And it's a bar we 
don't sell anymore. Dove bar. Meat (if a real dove), and ice cream / 
chocolate confection for the high carb.

Buckwheat was SOBA bar.

I'll try to post the key--need roman's help converting excel file to JPEG. 
Internet was helpful for non-mac, but I'm on mac. I'm sure it's easy, but 
I've had it with trying, so I'll get Roman to show me.

sorry for the missing B!

G


>>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

That one got very convoluted for me. I missed the buckwheat question, and now 
realize I used that answer for "high carb, low carb". Doh!

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Jack Barnes]

Looking forward to the answer key, if there is one. I think I got the 
buckwheat one answered correctly, but was stumped by a bar that "sounds 
both high carb & low car, and we don't sell it anymore".  I mean, I thought 
of a bar that fits that description — It is the bar I ride on the most, but 
I'm pretty sure Riv does still sell it. Lotsa fun though!

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 10:02:33 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote:
>
> Great! Can't wait for more. I've been in dire need of mental and/or 
> intellectual and/or comedic distractions the last few days. SNL has been 
> particulaly helpful.  Happened across this clip yesterday, which might help 
> explain the rules to those unfamiliar with the game.  Good for a laugh, if 
> nothing else.  (Not political, but not for those easily offended -fyi.)
> https://youtu.be/ImaYMoTi2g8

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[iamkeith]

Great! Can't wait for more. I've been in dire need of mental and/or 
intellectual and/or comedic distractions the last few days. SNL has been 
particulaly helpful.  Happened across this clip yesterday, which might help 
explain the rules to those unfamiliar with the game.  Good for a laugh, if 
nothing else.  (Not political, but not for those easily offended -fyi.)
https://youtu.be/ImaYMoTi2g8

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[dougP]

"I've asked others here to come up with theirs--bike related or not--and 
Dave is working on a toughy now. Too tough. Like Genuine Jeopardy tough. 
It'll go up early next week."

We're looking forward to it.  Now if you  can just keep coming up with 
these until the weather improves.  

dougP

On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 7:58:23 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Years ago there was a Noodle-shaped exactly handobar with a bulge, not a 
> sleeve in the middle, and it weighed like 60g less, so we called it a 
> superlight Noodle bar, and it WAS a noodle by bend, and we named it after a 
> Japanese (since it is made by NITTO) buckwheat noodle. Not Udon, which is 
> wheat..but the brownish skinny brothy soup slurpy noodle...which I tried to 
> live on in my early years of non-low carb eating on my trips to Japan. That 
> was the -opardy answer that stumped the most.
>
> I've asked others here to come up with theirs--bike related or not--and 
> Dave is working on a toughy now. Too tough. Like Genuine Jeopardy tough. 
> It'll go up early next week.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Years ago there was a Noodle-shaped exactly handobar with a bulge, not a 
sleeve in the middle, and it weighed like 60g less, so we called it a 
superlight Noodle bar, and it WAS a noodle by bend, and we named it after a 
Japanese (since it is made by NITTO) buckwheat noodle. Not Udon, which is 
wheat..but the brownish skinny brothy soup slurpy noodle...which I tried to 
live on in my early years of non-low carb eating on my trips to Japan. That 
was the -opardy answer that stumped the most.

I've asked others here to come up with theirs--bike related or not--and 
Dave is working on a toughy now. Too tough. Like Genuine Jeopardy tough. 
It'll go up early next week.


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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[dougP]

Thinking presidentially, it would be Bill Clinton. :)

dougP

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>
> What is 42?
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

About 5'-7"

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Wayne Naha]

"Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"

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> What is 42?
>
>
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Leslie]

Oh!  I didn't do it that way...   I just printed off the chart, then wrote 
my answers in the blanks, and mailed that in



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>
> Joe,  I did try to answer every question.  The were some I did not know 
> the answer to, so I made something up.  I wrote the title of the category, 
> and listed my answers in the same order as the questions (clues).  I hope 
> that is sufficient for the contest.  I did not rewrite everything.  In the 
> actual game of "Jeopardy!" an answer to a question is given, and players 
> must guess at the question which would be answered by the clue.  Thus, all 
> the 'answers' for this game must be phrased in the form of a question.  For 
> instance, if the clue is "The founder of Rivendell Bicycle Works," the 
> answer is: "Who is Grant Petersen?"  It takes some getting used to.
>
> On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 8:37:16 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Did you answer every question? I'm not entirely clear how this works, I 
>> don't watch Jeopardy. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Ryan Fleming]

stumped me too

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>
> Yes, that one was obscure, and I think it was the only one I didn't have 
> an answer for, so got really intrigued by the hint.  I finally got it but 
> it's one of those "ancient history" answers.  
>
> Just realized I didn't keep a copy.  Talk about blunders!
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 8:41:30 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> If I can ask this without generating guesses to the quiz, was everybody 
>> stumped by "buckwheat" ? That's the one where I threw in the towel. I just 
>> want to know if it stumped you, not the answer to the question itself. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Ron Mc]

What is 42?


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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Leslie]

I think I got that one. Actually, most I was solid on, but then there 
were a few that I was looking at, thinking at first that they were the same 
answer, but then a little more thinking came up with better answers... that 
left me down to two to ponder on for a bit...  one of them just hit me 
finally after mulling it over for a day; but the other, well...   I think I 
came up with an answer that is 'right' but don't know if it's 'the' answer 
that is expected...

I am eager to see the results  

   



On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 9:48:47 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Me, too, Joe. Buckwheat answer; I didn't know where to start.
>
> shoji
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 11:41:30 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> If I can ask this without generating guesses to the quiz, was everybody 
>> stumped by "buckwheat" ? That's the one where I threw in the towel. I just 
>> want to know if it stumped you, not the answer to the question itself. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Shoji Takahashi]

Me, too, Joe. Buckwheat answer; I didn't know where to start.

shoji

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>
> If I can ask this without generating guesses to the quiz, was everybody 
> stumped by "buckwheat" ? That's the one where I threw in the towel. I just 
> want to know if it stumped you, not the answer to the question itself. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Marc Nolte]

Doh!
I should have copied mine before sealing the already stamped envelope. 

Best, Marc
Calgary Alberta. 

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:36 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that one was obscure, and I think it was the only one I didn't have an 
> answer for, so got really intrigued by the hint.  I finally got it but it's 
> one of those "ancient history" answers.  
> 
> Just realized I didn't keep a copy.  Talk about blunders!
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 8:41:30 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> If I can ask this without generating guesses to the quiz, was everybody 
>> stumped by "buckwheat" ? That's the one where I threw in the towel. I just 
>> want to know if it stumped you, not the answer to the question itself.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[dougP]

Yes, that one was obscure, and I think it was the only one I didn't have an 
answer for, so got really intrigued by the hint.  I finally got it but it's 
one of those "ancient history" answers.  

Just realized I didn't keep a copy.  Talk about blunders!

dougP

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>
> If I can ask this without generating guesses to the quiz, was everybody 
> stumped by "buckwheat" ? That's the one where I threw in the towel. I just 
> want to know if it stumped you, not the answer to the question itself. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

If I can ask this without generating guesses to the quiz, was everybody stumped 
by "buckwheat" ? That's the one where I threw in the towel. I just want to know 
if it stumped you, not the answer to the question itself. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Ryan Fleming]

there was one I did not have a hot clue about...did the quiz but haven't 
sent it in ...may not make the cut. I'm curious about the answers 
though...because there were 2  others I couldn't figure out eitherand I 
admit there was 1 other I had to Google...except for these 4 I think I did 
ok



On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 4:05:33 PM UTC-6, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> I also ended up feeling pretty good about most of these, except one!
>
> I wonder if Grant will post the answers? I'm extremely curious over here.
>
> And for the interested, we're talking about the thing at the end of this 
> post:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/dont-listen-to-those-people-its-really-kwin-o-ah
>
> One day left!
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> That was hard! I feel pretty good about most of my answers - it helps 
>> greatly to have been around from the beginning - but one completely stumped 
>> me. It was great fun.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Reed Kennedy]

I also ended up feeling pretty good about most of these, except one!

I wonder if Grant will post the answers? I'm extremely curious over here.

And for the interested, we're talking about the thing at the end of this
post:
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/
dont-listen-to-those-people-its-really-kwin-o-ah

One day left!


Best,
Reed

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> me. It was great fun.
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[dougP]

Now that took some head scratching!  As promised, some of the clues were a 
bit fuzzy.  As often happens whenever I think I've done well, I've probably 
made some silly blunders.  But hey, made me dig out some ancient sources & 
re-read some interesting articles from the good old days of paper.  Loads 
of fun.

dougP

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>
> Check out Grant's Blahg for a neat sort-of-a contest. You have to write on 
> paper and send in a real envelope. With a real stamp!
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA. 
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

That was hard! I feel pretty good about most of my answers - it helps greatly 
to have been around from the beginning - but one completely stumped me. It was 
great fun. 

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Wayne Naha]

Joe,  I did try to answer every question.  The were some I did not know the 
answer to, so I made something up.  I wrote the title of the category, and 
listed my answers in the same order as the questions (clues).  I hope that 
is sufficient for the contest.  I did not rewrite everything.  In the 
actual game of "Jeopardy!" an answer to a question is given, and players 
must guess at the question which would be answered by the clue.  Thus, all 
the 'answers' for this game must be phrased in the form of a question.  For 
instance, if the clue is "The founder of Rivendell Bicycle Works," the 
answer is: "Who is Grant Petersen?"  It takes some getting used to.

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> Did you answer every question? I'm not entirely clear how this works, I 
> don't watch Jeopardy. 

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Joe Bernard]

Did you answer every question? I'm not entirely clear how this works, I don't 
watch Jeopardy. 

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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Wayne Naha]

I just mailed mine in.  It's not going to score that well, but it was a fun 
bit of nostalgia.

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>
> Joe Bernard
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[RBW] Re: RIVEOPARDY

[Ryan Fleming]

Some of those questions are real headscratchers...that's all I'll say. Fun 
, though

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