[RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Brian McDermott]

I emailed VO about the flat pack rack a few weeks ago. I guess they're 
reissuing it with better hardware, and they got the protos for the new 
hardware about a month ago. They said they're hoping to have the new 
version up in the spring. 

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 8:29:39 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> I've been waiting for a year to buy a quill faceplate stem from Velo 
> Orange. Ditto with their flat pack rack.  So it's not unique to Riv.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:32 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
>> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
>> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
>> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
>> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
>> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
>> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
>> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
>> goes on.
>>
>> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
>> Doug
>> Athens, Ga
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

['Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Strikes me that there's substantial overlap among frame models, which must 
create inventory challenges.

~pb

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:04:32 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
> goes on.
>
> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Philip Barrett]

Remember that extending their credit line out too far nearly cost Rivendell 
everything a few years back.

The world is waking up to "sensible" riding and the likes of Grant & Jan 
(Rene Hearse) are at the forefront of the movement, but both are small 
operations and severely limited in their ability to stock what are variable 
sized products (bikes & clothing). I expect to see the big brands catch up 
soon enough & then your needs can be met by their massive supply chain of 
offshore manufacturing.

On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 8:28:57 AM UTC-6 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:

> As a former *small* shop owner, the only way we existed was "at-once" 
> ordering and availability.  The fact that a reliable supply chain is all 
> but gone means the small folks are losing money and frustrating customers.
>
> If you believe in small business owners I'd say grapple with the fact that 
> small business and cash flow is just a reality; now made 1000x more intense 
> by COVID/supply chain realities.
>
> Cash flow issues were omnipresent for small retail operations.  It's a 
> full-on epidemic with the supply chain issues piled on.
>
> Buy early buy often if you want Riv to stick aroundunless you want 
> Trek/Specialized branded stores and Amazon to be your only options.
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 3:04:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Based on a conversation with Will several months ago I know they have 
>> placed multiple orders with Nitto for things like the FacePlater stems and 
>> they are just not coming.  He said they are placed multiple orders spread 
>> out over months for the same items, anticipating the demand when they do 
>> eventually start receiving them.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:27:32 AM UTC-8 fraze...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nailed it Paul!! 
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> "Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." 
>>> - Grant Petersen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:13 AM Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>>
 This response may sound a little harsh, but I don't mean to be harsh. 
 It's a frustrating situation for all these days and a bummer when it's 
 hard 
 to buy things we want.
 ---
 Along with what others are saying, it probably also has to do with what 
 they can get right now. They order MUSA clothing from a small shop in New 
 Hampshire (I think). That shop has multiple customers, and some production 
 capacity to balance, and who knows what the raw materials and labor 
 situation there is. QBP can't even keep hubs in stock. How is Riv going to 
 get any priority from suppliers when their order quantities are fractions 
 of most companies?

 Combine that with increased demand - for lots of good reasons in Rivs 
 case - their products and brand are becoming more and more well known and 
 desirable - and you end up with out of stock stuff. It's a bummer, but I 
 don't think Riv can do too much about it - otherwise they'd be selling 
 more 
 bikes and employing more people.

 And when Riv does stock up on stuff (like they did for the retail 
 store), it ends up sitting on the shelves and putting them in a tough 
 spot. 
 It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so IMO choosing 
 "don't" has a lot of supporting arguments.

 Will's restock emails are an interesting peak into how often they get 
 orders from different suppliers, and stuff just doesn't seem to be rolling 
 in frequently or in large quantities.

 Paul in AR

 On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many 
> others. Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these 
> days. 
> But, Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The 
> list 
> goes on.
>
> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no 
> avail.
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

As a former *small* shop owner, the only way we existed was "at-once" 
ordering and availability.  The fact that a reliable supply chain is all 
but gone means the small folks are losing money and frustrating customers.

If you believe in small business owners I'd say grapple with the fact that 
small business and cash flow is just a reality; now made 1000x more intense 
by COVID/supply chain realities.

Cash flow issues were omnipresent for small retail operations.  It's a 
full-on epidemic with the supply chain issues piled on.

Buy early buy often if you want Riv to stick aroundunless you want 
Trek/Specialized branded stores and Amazon to be your only options.

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 3:04:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Based on a conversation with Will several months ago I know they have 
> placed multiple orders with Nitto for things like the FacePlater stems and 
> they are just not coming.  He said they are placed multiple orders spread 
> out over months for the same items, anticipating the demand when they do 
> eventually start receiving them.
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:27:32 AM UTC-8 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nailed it Paul!! 
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> "Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." - 
>> Grant Petersen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:13 AM Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>
>>> This response may sound a little harsh, but I don't mean to be harsh. 
>>> It's a frustrating situation for all these days and a bummer when it's hard 
>>> to buy things we want.
>>> ---
>>> Along with what others are saying, it probably also has to do with what 
>>> they can get right now. They order MUSA clothing from a small shop in New 
>>> Hampshire (I think). That shop has multiple customers, and some production 
>>> capacity to balance, and who knows what the raw materials and labor 
>>> situation there is. QBP can't even keep hubs in stock. How is Riv going to 
>>> get any priority from suppliers when their order quantities are fractions 
>>> of most companies?
>>>
>>> Combine that with increased demand - for lots of good reasons in Rivs 
>>> case - their products and brand are becoming more and more well known and 
>>> desirable - and you end up with out of stock stuff. It's a bummer, but I 
>>> don't think Riv can do too much about it - otherwise they'd be selling more 
>>> bikes and employing more people.
>>>
>>> And when Riv does stock up on stuff (like they did for the retail 
>>> store), it ends up sitting on the shelves and putting them in a tough spot. 
>>> It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so IMO choosing 
>>> "don't" has a lot of supporting arguments.
>>>
>>> Will's restock emails are an interesting peak into how often they get 
>>> orders from different suppliers, and stuff just doesn't seem to be rolling 
>>> in frequently or in large quantities.
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
 Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
 Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
 inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
 using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
 think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
 more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
 sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
 goes on.

 Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no 
 avail.
 Doug
 Athens, Ga

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[David Person]

Based on a conversation with Will several months ago I know they have 
placed multiple orders with Nitto for things like the FacePlater stems and 
they are just not coming.  He said they are placed multiple orders spread 
out over months for the same items, anticipating the demand when they do 
eventually start receiving them.

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:27:32 AM UTC-8 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nailed it Paul!! 
>
> Ron
>
> "Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." - 
> Grant Petersen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:13 AM Paul Clifton  wrote:
>
>> This response may sound a little harsh, but I don't mean to be harsh. 
>> It's a frustrating situation for all these days and a bummer when it's hard 
>> to buy things we want.
>> ---
>> Along with what others are saying, it probably also has to do with what 
>> they can get right now. They order MUSA clothing from a small shop in New 
>> Hampshire (I think). That shop has multiple customers, and some production 
>> capacity to balance, and who knows what the raw materials and labor 
>> situation there is. QBP can't even keep hubs in stock. How is Riv going to 
>> get any priority from suppliers when their order quantities are fractions 
>> of most companies?
>>
>> Combine that with increased demand - for lots of good reasons in Rivs 
>> case - their products and brand are becoming more and more well known and 
>> desirable - and you end up with out of stock stuff. It's a bummer, but I 
>> don't think Riv can do too much about it - otherwise they'd be selling more 
>> bikes and employing more people.
>>
>> And when Riv does stock up on stuff (like they did for the retail store), 
>> it ends up sitting on the shelves and putting them in a tough spot. It's a 
>> damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so IMO choosing "don't" 
>> has a lot of supporting arguments.
>>
>> Will's restock emails are an interesting peak into how often they get 
>> orders from different suppliers, and stuff just doesn't seem to be rolling 
>> in frequently or in large quantities.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
>>> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
>>> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
>>> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
>>> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
>>> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
>>> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
>>> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
>>> goes on.
>>>
>>> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no 
>>> avail.
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, Ga
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Ron Frazelle]

Nailed it Paul!!

Ron

"Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." -
Grant Petersen



On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:13 AM Paul Clifton  wrote:

> This response may sound a little harsh, but I don't mean to be harsh. It's
> a frustrating situation for all these days and a bummer when it's hard to
> buy things we want.
> ---
> Along with what others are saying, it probably also has to do with what
> they can get right now. They order MUSA clothing from a small shop in New
> Hampshire (I think). That shop has multiple customers, and some production
> capacity to balance, and who knows what the raw materials and labor
> situation there is. QBP can't even keep hubs in stock. How is Riv going to
> get any priority from suppliers when their order quantities are fractions
> of most companies?
>
> Combine that with increased demand - for lots of good reasons in Rivs case
> - their products and brand are becoming more and more well known and
> desirable - and you end up with out of stock stuff. It's a bummer, but I
> don't think Riv can do too much about it - otherwise they'd be selling more
> bikes and employing more people.
>
> And when Riv does stock up on stuff (like they did for the retail store),
> it ends up sitting on the shelves and putting them in a tough spot. It's a
> damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so IMO choosing "don't"
> has a lot of supporting arguments.
>
> Will's restock emails are an interesting peak into how often they get
> orders from different suppliers, and stuff just doesn't seem to be rolling
> in frequently or in large quantities.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others.
>> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But,
>> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more
>> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without
>> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I
>> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in
>> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and
>> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list
>> goes on.
>>
>> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
>> Doug
>> Athens, Ga
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Paul Clifton]

This response may sound a little harsh, but I don't mean to be harsh. It's 
a frustrating situation for all these days and a bummer when it's hard to 
buy things we want.
---
Along with what others are saying, it probably also has to do with what 
they can get right now. They order MUSA clothing from a small shop in New 
Hampshire (I think). That shop has multiple customers, and some production 
capacity to balance, and who knows what the raw materials and labor 
situation there is. QBP can't even keep hubs in stock. How is Riv going to 
get any priority from suppliers when their order quantities are fractions 
of most companies?

Combine that with increased demand - for lots of good reasons in Rivs case 
- their products and brand are becoming more and more well known and 
desirable - and you end up with out of stock stuff. It's a bummer, but I 
don't think Riv can do too much about it - otherwise they'd be selling more 
bikes and employing more people.

And when Riv does stock up on stuff (like they did for the retail store), 
it ends up sitting on the shelves and putting them in a tough spot. It's a 
damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so IMO choosing "don't" 
has a lot of supporting arguments.

Will's restock emails are an interesting peak into how often they get 
orders from different suppliers, and stuff just doesn't seem to be rolling 
in frequently or in large quantities.

Paul in AR

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
> goes on.
>
> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Tom Wyland]

I've been waiting for a year to buy a quill faceplate stem from Velo 
Orange. Ditto with their flat pack rack.  So it's not unique to Riv.

Tom


On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:32 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
> goes on.
>
> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
>

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