[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Do read the rest of the above link also, as it's noted the framebuilder must have a precision alignment table. I personally know of one in Ohio, Franklin frames, but do not know how common it is to have one, they are rather pricey I was told by Jack, the one man show @ Franklin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Apparently, you can cold set 753, given the person has some experience in doing so. I ran across this (reply #57) ... http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/613041-126-130mm-should-i-have-framebuilder-cold-set-frame-3.html Ah, the misguided Reynolds 753 cold set myth. I say this to keep 753 frames > from being scraped as they are lovely rides. > > Yes, I know the Reynolds engineers placed a warning not to cold set and > the internet repeats. Being a mechanical engineer I know how wrong > engineers can be and how a skilled and experienced craftsman can do wonders. > > So when I rescued a 753r frame with slightly bent forks and a slightly > bent frame I gave it a try. Got the forks lined up pretty straight on my > cast iron table but as soon as I mounted the bike and started riding I was > back to dangerous pulling left and the same bent forks. I am sloAh, the > misguided Reynolds 753 cold set myth. I say this to keep 753 frames from > being scraped as they are lovely rides. > > Yes, I know the Reynolds engineers placed a warning not to cold set and > the internet repeats. Being a mechanical engineer I know how wrong > engineers can be and how a skilled and experienced craftsman can do wonders. > > So when I rescued a 753r frame with slightly bent forks and a slightly > bent frame I gave it a try. Got the forks lined up pretty straight on my > cast iron table but as soon as I mounted the bike and started riding I was > back to dangerous pulling left and the same bent forks. I am slow so did > this three times . > > Took the frame to our local builder and he said no worries, back in the > day we cold set these all the time. Mounted on > his Marchetti table imported from Italy the frame was straightened and the > fork likewise on his custom fork table. > The bike rides beautifully. w so did this three times . > > Took the frame to our local builder and he said no worries, back in the > day we cold set these all the time. Mounted on > his Marchetti table imported from Italy the frame was straightened and the > fork likewise on his custom fork table. > The bike rides beautifully. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Jan sells the 120mm Grand Bois hubs, and 6-sp cassette to match. On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:37:47 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I was mistaken. I just measured it, and it's 120 mm. But again, this was a > custom frame for fixed use only. > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Soon Chung Lim > wrote: > >> Patrick, did you spec the frame to be 126mm? >> Grant liked to spec at 128 and 132.5 for versatility but a 1999 frame >> built for 126mm is very odd. >> >> >> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 >>> mm. (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my >>> test, while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.) >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim >>> wrote: >>> Matt B., I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > ** > ** > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the > world revolves.) *Carthusian motto > > *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart > > *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
I was mistaken. I just measured it, and it's 120 mm. But again, this was a custom frame for fixed use only. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Soon Chung Lim wrote: > Patrick, did you spec the frame to be 126mm? > Grant liked to spec at 128 and 132.5 for versatility but a 1999 frame > built for 126mm is very odd. > > > On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 mm. >> (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my test, >> while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.) >> >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim >> wrote: >> >>> Matt B., >>> >>> I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Matt- Mine is a '97 Road Standard (exact same lugs and fork crown as yours), and it fits 130 mm hubs without any jamming required. Mine had a 7s freewheel when I bought it, but on a 130 mm Phil FSA hub. Riv Catalog 3, current for my era of Road Standard, says 130 mm spacing for the rear. I agree that yours is either custom, a rare production model in 126, or it's been re-spaced from 130 to 126. There does seem to be some variation among these early bikes. For example, my frame (like all Road Standards) was specified for short-reach (39-49 mm) brakes. However, my bike can barely clear a 700 x 28 tire whereas some Road Standards fit a 32 mm tire. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Matt Beecher wrote: > Thanks for the offer Eric, but I am trying to get away from freewheels and > moving to cassettes on any bike that I can, except a few very old ones > where it would not be period correct (50's Criterium, Stella, Peugeot, & > Hetchins). > > As for "jamming on the 130mm wheelset", there is nothing to apologize > for. Live and learn.. > > I'm still not certain this is a custom. Ignoring the powdercoat, which > was done when I had the frame repaired, there is nothing that makes this > appear custom. I bet some of the early Rivs were spaced at 126mm. > > Cheers, > Matt > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
$15? - if you go through the cart and don't like the paypal invoice they send you, just ask to cancel the order. On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote: > > What are the shipping costs like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Patrick, did you spec the frame to be 126mm? Grant liked to spec at 128 and 132.5 for versatility but a 1999 frame built for 126mm is very odd. On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 mm. > (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my test, > while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.) > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim > wrote: > >> Matt B., >> >> I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
What are the shipping costs like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Grand Bois sells really nice 126mm cassette hubs. http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/gb_lfqr_R120126.html Compass imports some of these, maybe just the 120mm. but shopping at Grand Bois is plenty easy. You go through their checkout and they e-mail you a paypal invoice. On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 4:41:56 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote: > > sounds like you fixed it, but in the future if you need a brand-spanking > new 126mm hub (and don't mind using a freewheel), i've used those > velo-orange high-flanges on old treks and they're pretty nice (and nice > looking). keep a lookout as they occasionally put them on special for some > reason. i picked mine up for $35 last year. > > and apologies for my bad advice on jamming the 130mm wheelset in > there...531 must be significantly more flexible steel. that's what i get > for pretending i have any knowledge metallurgy. > > eric > > On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:15:56 AM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote: >> >> Thanks for the verification Bill. I had not measured mine recently, but >> a 130mm wheelset definitely does not fit without spreading the stays. I >> thought that I had read the 126mm spacing online, but I cannot find that >> now. >> I found a 126mm spaced Hyperglide freehub wheelset, so I will use those >> with a 7-speed cassette. >> >> Thanks, >> Matt >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Thanks for the offer Eric, but I am trying to get away from freewheels and moving to cassettes on any bike that I can, except a few very old ones where it would not be period correct (50's Criterium, Stella, Peugeot, & Hetchins). As for "jamming on the 130mm wheelset", there is nothing to apologize for. Live and learn.. I'm still not certain this is a custom. Ignoring the powdercoat, which was done when I had the frame repaired, there is nothing that makes this appear custom. I bet some of the early Rivs were spaced at 126mm. Cheers, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
sounds like you fixed it, but in the future if you need a brand-spanking new 126mm hub (and don't mind using a freewheel), i've used those velo-orange high-flanges on old treks and they're pretty nice (and nice looking). keep a lookout as they occasionally put them on special for some reason. i picked mine up for $35 last year. and apologies for my bad advice on jamming the 130mm wheelset in there...531 must be significantly more flexible steel. that's what i get for pretending i have any knowledge metallurgy. eric On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:15:56 AM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote: > > Thanks for the verification Bill. I had not measured mine recently, but a > 130mm wheelset definitely does not fit without spreading the stays. I > thought that I had read the 126mm spacing online, but I cannot find that > now. > I found a 126mm spaced Hyperglide freehub wheelset, so I will use those > with a 7-speed cassette. > > Thanks, > Matt > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Ah, I was basing my thoughts on the title Rivendell Road Standard, which was a model of early production Rivs. But it sounds like you've solved the issue for your custom, so all is well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
I just measured and it is 126mm. FWIW, I was looking back at the RBW link that caught my eye and led me to buy it. Apparently, it might have been a custom. https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/road$20standard%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/ZIJor1UYo6Q/TtOmpwLlqlUJ On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Yeah, I'm curious about that, too..126 OLD was a dead spec by 1994. I'll > be very surprised if any Waterford Riv was built with it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 mm. (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my test, while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.) On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim wrote: > Matt B., > > I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Thanks for the verification Bill. I had not measured mine recently, but a 130mm wheelset definitely does not fit without spreading the stays. I thought that I had read the 126mm spacing online, but I cannot find that now. I found a 126mm spaced Hyperglide freehub wheelset, so I will use those with a 7-speed cassette. Thanks, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
What is it about the wheelset you are not happy with? If the hub is acceptable, there is no reason not to use it in a new wheel build. Failing that, VO have the Grand Cru in 126 OLD. - it is a freewheel. I'm surprised at the 126 spacing though. My 753 double Joe LongLow had 130mm spacing (possibly 132.5). Ian A/Canada On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 5:36:10 PM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote: > > I have a Rivendell Road Standard that I really like, but I am disappointed > with the current wheelset. The stays are currently spaced at 126 and > normally I wouldn't hesitate to spread them to 130mm to open up more > options, but I fear what I have read about 753 tubing. On the other hand, > I have read that the Road Standard used thicker tubing than most 753 > frames, so I wonder if this makes it more suitable to spreading...or less > so. In short, has anyone here spread their R.S. stays and used them > without failure? > Thanks, > Matt B. > Oswego, IL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
My 1995 Road Standard was built to 128 mm spacing to accommodate either 126 or 130 mm hubs. I believe they were all that way. Double check your spacing with an accurate caliper, if it's 128 I would just install a 130 wheel and be happy. Bill Stockton, CA On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 4:36:10 PM UTC-8, Matt Beecher wrote: > > I have a Rivendell Road Standard that I really like, but I am disappointed > with the current wheelset. The stays are currently spaced at 126 and > normally I wouldn't hesitate to spread them to 130mm to open up more > options, but I fear what I have read about 753 tubing. On the other hand, > I have read that the Road Standard used thicker tubing than most 753 > frames, so I wonder if this makes it more suitable to spreading...or less > so. In short, has anyone here spread their R.S. stays and used them > without failure? > > Thanks, > Matt B. > Oswego, IL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Yeah, I'm curious about that, too..126 OLD was a dead spec by 1994. I'll be very surprised if any Waterford Riv was built with it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
Matt B., I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. Grant would know best, of course. Soon Chung NYC On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 7:36:10 PM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote: > > I have a Rivendell Road Standard that I really like, but I am disappointed > with the current wheelset. The stays are currently spaced at 126 and > normally I wouldn't hesitate to spread them to 130mm to open up more > options, but I fear what I have read about 753 tubing. On the other hand, > I have read that the Road Standard used thicker tubing than most 753 > frames, so I wonder if this makes it more suitable to spreading...or less > so. In short, has anyone here spread their R.S. stays and used them > without failure? > > Thanks, > Matt B. > Oswego, IL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
>From the retrogrouch site article on 753 tubing referenced above,,: "Because of the need to preserve the strength gained in heat treating, low-temperature silver brazing was the only acceptable way to join 753 tubing, and this required very close tolerances for mitering and lug fit when building. Also, the tubing could not be cold set after brazing, so alignment had to be spot-on from the beginning. Because of the special care needed to ensure a proper build, any framebuilder who wanted to use it had to be certified by Reynolds. The certification process involved getting a sample tubeset, then brazing a frame which had to be sent to Reynolds for destructive testing. The inspectors would look for close mitering tolerances, good brazing penetration, and any signs of overheating in the joint and tubing. Only when certified could a builder be supplied with 753 tubing" Sounds like cold setting is NOT a good idea. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
The Retrogrouch posted a writeup on 753 tubing on the tenth ( http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2016/11/classic-tubes-reynolds-753.html?m=1) as part of his series on tubing. Resetting the stays doesn't sound like a good idea, and may not be functionally possible. Flexing them by "forcing" the 130 mm rear axle might still be acceptable as Eric Karnes implies. Cheers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
I'd have absolutely no hesitation to spread a 531 frame. From what I hear, 753 is quite different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?
I've never had a bike with 753, but had a 531 Trek with 126mm spacing. I actually used to run 130mm wheels no problem (even without spreading the stays). Others with more experience using that tubing (and a RS) can chime in, but my guess is that it would be just fine, as 4mm is a pretty small amount. Eric On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 7:36:10 PM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote: > > I have a Rivendell Road Standard that I really like, but I am disappointed > with the current wheelset. The stays are currently spaced at 126 and > normally I wouldn't hesitate to spread them to 130mm to open up more > options, but I fear what I have read about 753 tubing. On the other hand, > I have read that the Road Standard used thicker tubing than most 753 > frames, so I wonder if this makes it more suitable to spreading...or less > so. In short, has anyone here spread their R.S. stays and used them > without failure? > > Thanks, > Matt B. > Oswego, IL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
