[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Thanks! I love my Ram, but I suppose it's only natural to wonder about other bikes out there; but is reassuring to hear things that confirm what you also think... On May 24, 12:28 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: there is no comparison between the Rambouillet and the Cronus except maybe two things; they both take fenders and the Cronus has a tall enough headtube and a long enough fork steerer tube to almost enable matching the bar height on the Riv. Riv is 58 with upjutting Salsa quill. Cronus is a 58 with 215 headtube, 5cm of spacers, and 102 degree stem. After that they are quite different. Steep angles, high bb, short chainstays on the Cronus. Riv is spingy in a good way by comparision and Cronus seems to fly by comparison. Cronus carbon is stiff and slightly not forgiving, but is probably 7 lbs lighter than the coupled Riv. Riv goes bouncy bounce over bumps, Cronus goes cerchunk! I like the Cronus plenty and have enjoyed its lightness of being. Don't care about fenders on a carbon bike and would like to try a Specialized Roubaix as I think it is closer in geo to my sweet Riv geo. On May 24, 8:20 am, Zac zac.stan...@gmail.com wrote: Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called the Presidio. It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. Zac On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
i own a Rambouillet and a Fisher Cronus. is that why i am still stuck on earth after 6 pm last saturday? On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
On May 24, 10:16 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: i own a Rambouillet and a Fisher Cronus. is that why i am still stuck on earth after 6 pm last saturday? So... how about a brief compare/contrast on those two?? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called the Presidio. It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. Zac On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
there is no comparison between the Rambouillet and the Cronus except maybe two things; they both take fenders and the Cronus has a tall enough headtube and a long enough fork steerer tube to almost enable matching the bar height on the Riv. Riv is 58 with upjutting Salsa quill. Cronus is a 58 with 215 headtube, 5cm of spacers, and 102 degree stem. After that they are quite different. Steep angles, high bb, short chainstays on the Cronus. Riv is spingy in a good way by comparision and Cronus seems to fly by comparison. Cronus carbon is stiff and slightly not forgiving, but is probably 7 lbs lighter than the coupled Riv. Riv goes bouncy bounce over bumps, Cronus goes cerchunk! I like the Cronus plenty and have enjoyed its lightness of being. Don't care about fenders on a carbon bike and would like to try a Specialized Roubaix as I think it is closer in geo to my sweet Riv geo. On May 24, 8:20 am, Zac zac.stan...@gmail.com wrote: Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called the Presidio. It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. Zac On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Nice comparo! On May 24, 9:28 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: there is no comparison between the Rambouillet and the Cronus except maybe two things; they both take fenders and the Cronus has a tall enough headtube and a long enough fork steerer tube to almost enable matching the bar height on the Riv. Riv is 58 with upjutting Salsa quill. Cronus is a 58 with 215 headtube, 5cm of spacers, and 102 degree stem. After that they are quite different. Steep angles, high bb, short chainstays on the Cronus. Riv is spingy in a good way by comparision and Cronus seems to fly by comparison. Cronus carbon is stiff and slightly not forgiving, but is probably 7 lbs lighter than the coupled Riv. Riv goes bouncy bounce over bumps, Cronus goes cerchunk! I like the Cronus plenty and have enjoyed its lightness of being. Don't care about fenders on a carbon bike and would like to try a Specialized Roubaix as I think it is closer in geo to my sweet Riv geo. On May 24, 8:20 am, Zac zac.stan...@gmail.com wrote: Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called the Presidio. It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. Zac On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Obviously at least one of the reasons. On May 24, 7:16 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: i own a Rambouillet and a Fisher Cronus. is that why i am still stuck on earth after 6 pm last saturday? On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote: Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and vanishing fender mounts that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
