[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-30 Thread Bill M.
The SA, Rivet Pearl and Brooks B17 are all about 170 mm wide at the widest 
point.  

That's not the whole story, though.  Measured at the midpoint of their 
length, the Rivet is nearly 3 cm narrower than the SA (based on my SA, 
which is laced in and so narrower than stock).  The Brooks is in between. 
 The narrow nose of the Rivet works well for me, the wider nose of a Brooks 
rubs my anatomy in less-than-pleasant ways.  The SA is fine with a very 
upright position, if I lean forward it is much less comfortable.  

Bill

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 6:13:11 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Width wise, does anyone know which Rivet has similar sit bone measurements 
> to the SAs?
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 8:55:12 PM UTC-4, Bill M. wrote:
>>
>> I was an early adopter, having bought a brown Pearl Ti from Deb at their 
>> debut at NAHBS in Sacramento a few years ago.  It has been in continuous 
>> use since then and I like it a lot.  It fits me better than a Brooks (of 
>> which I own five of various models and vintages, none of them being used 
>> right now) due to being wide enough at the sit bones but narrow in the nose 
>> so I don't get thigh rub.  The Rivet leather is quite hard, mine has hardly 
>> stretched at all and seems like it will last a very long time.  The comfort 
>> is all from the shape, don't expect much cush.  
>>
>> The SA is quite different.  You can't expect it to keep a flat shape like 
>> a Brooks or Rivet, it's meant to be a hammock and tensioning it flat will 
>> just stretch it to death as many have found.  My SA lives on a bike with a 
>> fairly upright position and it works well enough for me like that.  I can't 
>> really ride on the SA in any kind of tuck.  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> D.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-28 Thread Daniel Jackson
Width wise, does anyone know which Rivet has similar sit bone measurements 
to the SAs?

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 8:55:12 PM UTC-4, Bill M. wrote:
>
> I was an early adopter, having bought a brown Pearl Ti from Deb at their 
> debut at NAHBS in Sacramento a few years ago.  It has been in continuous 
> use since then and I like it a lot.  It fits me better than a Brooks (of 
> which I own five of various models and vintages, none of them being used 
> right now) due to being wide enough at the sit bones but narrow in the nose 
> so I don't get thigh rub.  The Rivet leather is quite hard, mine has hardly 
> stretched at all and seems like it will last a very long time.  The comfort 
> is all from the shape, don't expect much cush.  
>
> The SA is quite different.  You can't expect it to keep a flat shape like 
> a Brooks or Rivet, it's meant to be a hammock and tensioning it flat will 
> just stretch it to death as many have found.  My SA lives on a bike with a 
> fairly upright position and it works well enough for me like that.  I can't 
> really ride on the SA in any kind of tuck.  
>
> Bill
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> D.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-28 Thread Bill M.
I was an early adopter, having bought a brown Pearl Ti from Deb at their 
debut at NAHBS in Sacramento a few years ago.  It has been in continuous 
use since then and I like it a lot.  It fits me better than a Brooks (of 
which I own five of various models and vintages, none of them being used 
right now) due to being wide enough at the sit bones but narrow in the nose 
so I don't get thigh rub.  The Rivet leather is quite hard, mine has hardly 
stretched at all and seems like it will last a very long time.  The comfort 
is all from the shape, don't expect much cush.  

The SA is quite different.  You can't expect it to keep a flat shape like a 
Brooks or Rivet, it's meant to be a hammock and tensioning it flat will 
just stretch it to death as many have found.  My SA lives on a bike with a 
fairly upright position and it works well enough for me like that.  I can't 
really ride on the SA in any kind of tuck.  

Bill

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-28 Thread Jim Bronson
I feel compelled to contribute to this thread that Deb is a real swell
lady to ride with!  Always has a smile on her face.  We had a late
season 600K here in the Austin area last December and she flew out
along with some other RUSA characters and we had a real good time.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:
> Debra will sell you any saddle for a $35 trial.  You can buy a trial right
> online.  After two months or so, you either pay the balance or send it back
> to her.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 5:10:32 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I have a Diablo on my go-fast and it will stay there.  They rounder than
>> Brooks and generally feel harder, but they work quite well.  Others have
>> posted that B17 was too narrow for them, and Pearl was a perfect fit.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I love mine. Diablos on both: Hunqapillar and Quickbeam.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts?

 Thanks,
 D.
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-28 Thread Deacon Patrick
Of course all this is just a whole of of cheeky opinions that may not crack 
up to much, so perhaps we should just butt out before they chafe? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-27 Thread Don Compton
I rode Brooks B-17s for years. They developed a hump in the middle and I 
couldn't ride them anymore. I tried the Rivet and the Selle Anatomica and 
didn't like the floating feeling. I finally settled on a Specialized 
mountain bike saddle. It has the channel to protect my private parts and 
there is slightly more cushion than their road models.
Don C.

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-26 Thread Ron Mc
here's the Try link, It's $25 + $18 to ship 
 http://rivetcycleworks.com/product/try-buy/

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 11:05:25 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Jayme, I couldn't find it that way, even after talking to Debra on the 
> phone.  She sent me an e-mail with a link, which I probably have in a bike 
> folder on my e-mail - I'll get back this afternoon. 
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:05:00 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>>
>> Not seeing anything on the website about trial saddles. Maybe this 
>> service has been discontinued. :-(
>>
>> Jayme 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-26 Thread Eileen Lloyd
I have a black chromoly, slotted Rivet Independence.  It works better than 
my B17 Special and it doesn't need a rain cover. Longest ride has been over 
600K.  Hope to do a 1200K on it.

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-26 Thread Ron Mc
Jayme, I couldn't find it that way, even after talking to Debra on the 
phone.  She sent me an e-mail with a link, which I probably have in a bike 
folder on my e-mail - I'll get back this afternoon. 

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:05:00 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>
> Not seeing anything on the website about trial saddles. Maybe this service 
> has been discontinued. :-(
>
> Jayme 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-26 Thread Jayme Frye
Not seeing anything on the website about trial saddles. Maybe this service 
has been discontinued. :-(

Jayme 

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 5:12:01 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Debra will sell you any saddle for a $35 trial.  You can buy a trial right 
> online.  After two months or so, you either pay the balance or send it back 
> to her.  
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 5:10:32 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I have a Diablo on my go-fast and it will stay there.  They rounder than 
>> Brooks and generally feel harder, but they work quite well.  Others have 
>> posted that B17 was too narrow for them, and Pearl was a perfect fit. 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I love mine. Diablos on both: Hunqapillar and Quickbeam.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 

 Thanks,
 D.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-24 Thread Ron Mc
Oops, meant to say I have an Indy on my go-fast.  If she has a return demo 
saddle, she will sell it has a demo discount, and that's worth a call.  

>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-24 Thread Ron Mc
Debra will sell you any saddle for a $35 trial.  You can buy a trial right 
online.  After two months or so, you either pay the balance or send it back 
to her.  

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 5:10:32 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I have a Diablo on my go-fast and it will stay there.  They rounder than 
> Brooks and generally feel harder, but they work quite well.  Others have 
> posted that B17 was too narrow for them, and Pearl was a perfect fit. 
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I love mine. Diablos on both: Hunqapillar and Quickbeam.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> D.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-24 Thread Ron Mc
I have a Diablo on my go-fast and it will stay there.  They rounder than 
Brooks and generally feel harder, but they work quite well.  Others have 
posted that B17 was too narrow for them, and Pearl was a perfect fit. 

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I love mine. Diablos on both: Hunqapillar and Quickbeam.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> D.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-24 Thread Deacon Patrick
I love mine. Diablos on both: Hunqapillar and Quickbeam.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
I think Daniel was asking about Rivet the company, manufacturer of the 
saddles called Pearl and Independence, rather than about leather saddles 
with rivets in general.  There's a review of the Rivet Independence in 
the current BQ.  I've tried a Pearl and an Independence as part of their 
unique "saddle lending club" (pay $25 and you get to try one; if you 
like it you negotiate a price and buy it, otherwise you return it and 
someone else gets to try it).  They didn't work for me (whereas the 
Berthoud Aspin does) but a friend of mine on this list tried the Indy 
after me and liked it.  She also has a Pearl, I believe.  They're 
similar to Sella An Atomica but they fit very differently.


http://rivetcycleworks.com/

On 10/24/2015 04:34 PM, BSWP wrote:
I'll hazard a guess that most of us ride on leather saddles with 
rivets. For myself, I find them perfect for short and long rides, only 
problem is keeping them protected from soaking rain.


- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:

Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts?




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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

2015-10-24 Thread BSWP
I'll hazard a guess that most of us ride on leather saddles with rivets. 
For myself, I find them perfect for short and long rides, only problem is 
keeping them protected from soaking rain.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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