Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Jay Connolly]

My wife and I rode 2700 kms of the GDMBR in 2015 and planned to go back this 
year, but family circumstances changed our plans. I rode a Fargo with 2.4 
Maxxis Ardents. When I returned, I sold the Fargo and bought a Jones Plus. I 
prefer rigid bikes, but because I'm tall and heavy, the more suspension from 
the tires, the better. Any rider of average size would be just fine on 2.2s or 
better, so any strong frame with enough clearance would be fine. People travel 
large portions of the route on cross bikes (supported, usually). For the long 
haul, it's ablout comfort.

I would recommend bikepacking bags rather than panniers. For most riders, there 
will be some pushing, and loaded panniers can make hike-a-bike awkward. On very 
small bikes, a "rack" to support a dry bag behind the seat post will allow teh 
rider to maintain tire clearance. Portland Design Works makes an excellent one.

I would sell my maps, but I hope to do the whole thing next year.

Jay

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Deacon Patrick]

Coconutbill,

You may want to post a separate thread so this gets seen? And perhaps a 
thread on iBob? If it's any help I have Section 5. If you want it send me 
your address off list and I'll post it soon.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 5:06:14 PM UTC-6, Coconutbill wrote:
>
> I'm wondering if anyone is over their ACA maps for the great divide , and 
> would sell them to a nomad about to attempt this route . I'm on a shoe 
> string budget so just thought I'd inquire.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Coconutbill]

I'm wondering if anyone is over their ACA maps for the great divide , and would 
sell them to a nomad about to attempt this route . I'm on a shoe string budget 
so just thought I'd inquire.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Patrick Moore]

First though I'd have to save up to buy the Rivendell! But it would be
interesting to hear more of your project if it comes to fruition,
particularly how a different fork affects the ride.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Orc  wrote:

>
> If I can't get rid on the Rosco carcass that's sitting in my basement I'll
> probably put a disc mount on the rear triangle;  in my (small) experience
> discifying frames it's fairly safe to braze post mounts onto the axle end
> of a seatstay because that wheel will break loose and skid before the
> forces get high enough to damage the tubing.   The fork, on the other hand,
> I'd set aside and replace with a new explicitly disc-capable one; the
> failure case would trash an otherwise perfectly good fork (and possibly a
> perfectly good rider as well), and there seem to be a few companies still
> making 1" disc forks out there.
>


>
> I'd bet if you sniffed around town you might find a framebuilder who'd be
> amused enough by the idea that she'd put a disc mount on a Riv for you.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Orc]

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 1:32:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Curious, and very daring too: has anyone ever modified a Rivendell frame 
> to accept disc brakes? My beau ideal, or perhaps belle ideale, is an 
> Atlantis that takes 60 mm tires with fenders and air between them, and that 
> has disc brakes and drop bar.
>

If I can't get rid on the Rosco carcass that's sitting in my basement I'll 
probably put a disc mount on the rear triangle;  in my (small) experience 
discifying frames it's fairly safe to braze post mounts onto the axle end 
of a seatstay because that wheel will break loose and skid before the 
forces get high enough to damage the tubing.   The fork, on the other hand, 
I'd set aside and replace with a new explicitly disc-capable one; the 
failure case would trash an otherwise perfectly good fork (and possibly a 
perfectly good rider as well), and there seem to be a few companies still 
making 1" disc forks out there.

I'd bet if you sniffed around town you might find a framebuilder who'd be 
amused enough by the idea that she'd put a disc mount on a Riv for you.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Patrick Moore]

Curious, and very daring too: has anyone ever modified a Rivendell frame to
accept disc brakes? My beau ideal, or perhaps belle ideale, is an Atlantis
that takes 60 mm tires with fenders and air between them, and that has disc
brakes and drop bar.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Coconutbill  wrote:

> [...]while part of me would love to test Homer on this terrain , I am sure
> I will be grateful for disk brakes and fatter tires. Mark thanks for
> starting this thread - and for the excellent photo documentation.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Coconutbill]

I found someone selling a smalll crust evasion frame  basically my narrow 
nitsche needs of 26+ or 27.5+ are met, as well as disk brake mounts , rack 
mounts , etc. and while part of me would love to test Homer on this terrain , I 
am sure I will be grateful for disk brakes and fatter tires. Mark thanks for 
starting this thread - and for the excellent photo documentation.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Anne Paulson]

I have ridden the Divide. I was glad of my 3" tires. I also lved my
hydraulic disk brakes.

The only problem with the hydraulic disk was bike shops along the route
didn't know how to maintain them. For that reason, last year I switched to
mechanical disk brakes-- and rapidly switched back. The difference was
astonishingly large.

I rode the first 2300 miles of the Divide. I got one flat along the way, a
nasty slash on a rocky downhill.

Someone in Mark's group had fenders. For the part of the route he rode,
that might be OK, but further south, it's so very much a bad idea. There is
mud.

Mark, I love your pictures. I still think about the Divide a lot.

Here's an elevation profile of the whole route:
https://www.eatsleepridegreatdivide.com/#start=0=2691

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Kellie  wrote:

> I haven't  ridden the divide, but you can put up to 2.3 tires on an
> Atlantis and go tubeless. I have Cliffhanger rims and Thunder Burt tires,
> all tubeless compatible. I do know an early version of a Hunqapillar had no
> problems on the Divide.
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling
>> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana.
>>
>> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then
>> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields
>> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields
>> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers,
>> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>>
>> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride
>> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a
>> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I
>> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the
>> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about
>> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail?
>>
>>
>> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Kellie]

I haven't  ridden the divide, but you can put up to 2.3 tires on an 
Atlantis and go tubeless. I have Cliffhanger rims and Thunder Burt tires, 
all tubeless compatible. I do know an early version of a Hunqapillar had no 
problems on the Divide. 
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>
> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>
> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>
>
> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Here is a collection that shows the varied nature of terrain. Bad pavement,
gravel, double track, single track, rocks, grass, you name it!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markreimer/albums/72157672539573505

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Coconutbill  wrote:

> Given my finances, I think that my best workaround might be to borrow this
>> "Sherpa Comp" mountain bike my friend said he'd lend me.
>>
> I'm not familiar, but if it could fit a 2.3' It should certainly be more
> enjoyable than on my 650b x 42+ tires, I'd think.
> I'd love to see your photos (if you have some) from the tour. Any other
> good resources for which I can see the topography and terrain?
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Coconutbill]

>
> Given my finances, I think that my best workaround might be to borrow this 
> "Sherpa Comp" mountain bike my friend said he'd lend me. 
>
I'm not familiar, but if it could fit a 2.3' It should certainly be more 
enjoyable than on my 650b x 42+ tires, I'd think.
I'd love to see your photos (if you have some) from the tour. Any other 
good resources for which I can see the topography and terrain? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Possible? Yes. Enjoyable? Debatable...

I recently did the first 1000km of the Divide. I decided to leave my
Atlantis at home and ride a Crust DFL with 26" by 3" tubeless tires. It was
the perfect decision. There was an Atlantis in my group, and he had many,
many flats. Some of the descents are more akin to creek beds due to
erosion. I could let go of the brakes and fly down. He double flatted. Some
of the descents are steep and very long. I was extremely thankful for my
large disc brakes. I never had trouble stopping my loaded bike even in the
rain. My Atlantis would have been a bad call in my opinion.

Now, there are many long sections of the divide where a Homer would be
absolutely in its element. I guess you need to decide if you want a bike
that sings on the gravel roads but you're walking some of the most 'fun'
sections. Or a bike that doesn't bat an eye at the rough stuff, but might
be a touch slower on the road. I never felt I was at a disadvantage on the
road sections. I increased my tire pressure and kept up just fine. But the
guys on 2" tires and under were at a definite disadvantage.

So yeah, you can do it, and many people have, but your bike and body will
take a much bigger beating.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Coconutbill  wrote:

> I've underbiked on Homer many times, and I wonder, would it be possible to
>> do this ride on A. Homer Hilsen?
>>
> I sold my MB-1 and MB-4, so it is my only bike at this point in time,
> although, if I wanted to , Im sure I could borrow an old school mountain
> bike from a friend.
> The other idea that had occured to me was to have a friend braze
> canti-posts onto my Homer, as the main drawback I see with my build, is
> that sidepulls are just not adequate. Any thoughts on this matter?
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Coconutbill]

>
> I've underbiked on Homer many times, and I wonder, would it be possible to 
> do this ride on A. Homer Hilsen?
>
I sold my MB-1 and MB-4, so it is my only bike at this point in time, 
although, if I wanted to , Im sure I could borrow an old school mountain 
bike from a friend.
The other idea that had occured to me was to have a friend braze 
canti-posts onto my Homer, as the main drawback I see with my build, is 
that sidepulls are just not adequate. Any thoughts on this matter?  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Zach Duval]

Bartender bags, I meant, not bar bag.

I work in the newsroom for the Kalispell newspaper, and it has been a complete 
shit show since the attack. A former coach of the victim (he was a runner as 
well as a forest service agent) was quoted in an initial report, and he has 
since fled town after the resultant media assault. One of the British papers 
put it humorously with a headline that "the bear is wanted by police."

This shouldn't frighten you too much of course. Bear spray at the hip and the 
ability to make lots of noise, especially before blind corners, should leave 
you plenty safe. Also, be sure to stop in Whitefish for pizza and a delicious 
beer!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[iamkeith]

Glad Zach posted that!  I saw this on a news feed early this morning, and 
immediately thought about your (Mark's) upcoming trip as well.   (Oddly, It 
was all over the British news, before anything hit the National U.S. news)

You're right about bearspray being no use in a bag.  One of the accounts I 
read said that they surprised the bear and that it "took the first rider 
'off his bike'," so even quick-draw access might not have mattered.  A 
couple of other things you could consider, and that I do on many of my 
regular rides, are:

1)  attach a bear bell to your bike.  This is the best way to make sure you 
don't surprise bears (or moose) in the first place. You can usually find 
them with velcro attachment straps.  Intended for walking sticks or 
backpacks, but they work well on handlebars, and are easy to remove when 
you don't need the noise.  

2) If you get tired of using a holster, carry the spray in your bottle 
cage.   Many or most oversize water bottles (with the necked-down area) 
happen to be the PERFECT size to snugly hold a standard bear spray can. 
 Just remove the lid and press-in the bearspray.  The water bottle stays on 
the can when you pull it out, and you can easily grab it when you walk away 
from your bike:



Hope the trip goes well, and don't let this stuff freak you out.  Just be 
smart, and you'll be fine.  


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>
> Zach, wow, hadn't heard about that. But yes, I will have bear spray. I 
> thought of putting it in the bar bag, but that isn't much use to me when I 
> lean the bike on a tree and zip into the woods to answer nature's call or 
> check out a stream or some other point of interest. I think I'll keep it on 
> my belt the whole time. I've carried it on all my hiking trips and can flip 
> that safety clip off in a flash :)
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Zach Duval  > wrote:
>
>> Probably mentioned above but worth repeating: bear spray will be on the 
>> ready? Have you practiced firing it?
>>
>> A MTBer was killed by what was most likely a grizzly bear yesterday 
>> outside West Glacier. That's not exactly on your course, but it's fairly 
>> close.
>>
>> I've been thinking one of those Randi Jo bar bags might make a good spray 
>> holster. Might be worth consideration?
>>
>> Anyhow, good luck on the adventure. As you swing into the Flathead 
>> Valley, I'don't love to check outhe your DFL in person. I'm considering 
>> options for something with more trail ability than my Hillborne.
>>
>> Zach
>> Kalispell, MT
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Zach, wow, hadn't heard about that. But yes, I will have bear spray. I
thought of putting it in the bar bag, but that isn't much use to me when I
lean the bike on a tree and zip into the woods to answer nature's call or
check out a stream or some other point of interest. I think I'll keep it on
my belt the whole time. I've carried it on all my hiking trips and can flip
that safety clip off in a flash :)

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> Probably mentioned above but worth repeating: bear spray will be on the
> ready? Have you practiced firing it?
>
> A MTBer was killed by what was most likely a grizzly bear yesterday
> outside West Glacier. That's not exactly on your course, but it's fairly
> close.
>
> I've been thinking one of those Randi Jo bar bags might make a good spray
> holster. Might be worth consideration?
>
> Anyhow, good luck on the adventure. As you swing into the Flathead Valley,
> I'don't love to check outhe your DFL in person. I'm considering options for
> something with more trail ability than my Hillborne.
>
> Zach
> Kalispell, MT
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Ryan Fleming]

Good luck , have fun and safe travels...that Crust looks like just the 
ticket...but I'll be happy to experience your trip vicariously...take your 
usual awesome pictures...Cheers

On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 1:53:21 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Figured I'd share a quick update about this divide trip. I'm flying West 
> on Wednesday in the early morning, with the hope of riding a short distance 
> out of Banff in the evening for my first night. I've decided not to ride 
> the Atlantis in the end. Not because I don't think it could handle it (of 
> course it could) but because I've put together a bike that I believe will 
> handle it better. 
>
> I've built up the 26+ plus bike pictured below, and just returned from a 
> three-day 360km off road tour that featured very comparable terrain to the 
> Divide. The added cushion from the 3" tubeless tires and the remarkable 
> stopping power in wet and muddy conditions with the Paul Klamper disc 
> brakes are what ultimately sold me. The carrying capacity and weight are 
> pretty similar between the two bikes. The overall riding position is 
> extremely close to the Atlantis. But based on my personal experiences I 
> think this will be the better option. There will be one or two Riv's along 
> for the ride though, so it will be fun to compare our experiences. 
>
> Next summer when my wife and I do an East-coast tour, it will definitely 
> be on the Atlantis though :)
>
> If anyone wants to follow along, the best way it to check my Instagram 
> account at instagram.com/markreimer
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 2:58:43 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> h hunky...that looks like a good choice in the backcountry
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 10:43:33 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm doesn't look like the photo worked. Here it is again:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:49:02 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 Oooh new bike...this sounds exciting!...but I'm sure you want a 
 thorough shakedown before you take it on a long adventure...any pictures 
 of 
 this bike?

 On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony, great photos.
>
> Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time 
> to ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the 
> divide after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was 
> some confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
> between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
> plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
> per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
> planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.
>
> So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be 
> renting a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to 
> get in at least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside 
> of 
> town.
>
> The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just 
> purchased a new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be 
> known moving forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I 
> toured with him on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his 
> prototype 
> frame, so I had a lot of time to check it out.
>
> It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 
> 650b x 2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire 
> width, but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which 
> doesn't leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a 
> long back-country trip. We'll see. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years 
>> ago on my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported 
>> ride, meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
>> My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if 
>> you have any questions I can help with.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate 
>> Wolf
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Deacon Patrick]

Dude! I will be very curious to learn your experiences comparing (as well 
as might be given different trails/gear/times/weather/etc) between 2.1" 
Thunder Burts and those beasties for bikepacking and winter. Have a 
wondrous trip!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Figured I'd share a quick update about this divide trip. I'm flying West 
> on Wednesday in the early morning, with the hope of riding a short distance 
> out of Banff in the evening for my first night. I've decided not to ride 
> the Atlantis in the end. Not because I don't think it could handle it (of 
> course it could) but because I've put together a bike that I believe will 
> handle it better. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Zach Duval]

Probably mentioned above but worth repeating: bear spray will be on the ready? 
Have you practiced firing it?

A MTBer was killed by what was most likely a grizzly bear yesterday outside 
West Glacier. That's not exactly on your course, but it's fairly close. 

I've been thinking one of those Randi Jo bar bags might make a good spray 
holster. Might be worth consideration?

Anyhow, good luck on the adventure. As you swing into the Flathead Valley, 
I'don't love to check outhe your DFL in person. I'm considering options for 
something with more trail ability than my Hillborne.

Zach
Kalispell, MT

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Bill Lindsay]

Your DFL looks so butch.  I probably would have chosen it as well.  Safe 
travels!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:53:21 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Figured I'd share a quick update about this divide trip. I'm flying West 
> on Wednesday in the early morning, with the hope of riding a short distance 
> out of Banff in the evening for my first night. I've decided not to ride 
> the Atlantis in the end. Not because I don't think it could handle it (of 
> course it could) but because I've put together a bike that I believe will 
> handle it better. 
>
> I've built up the 26+ plus bike pictured below, and just returned from a 
> three-day 360km off road tour that featured very comparable terrain to the 
> Divide. The added cushion from the 3" tubeless tires and the remarkable 
> stopping power in wet and muddy conditions with the Paul Klamper disc 
> brakes are what ultimately sold me. The carrying capacity and weight are 
> pretty similar between the two bikes. The overall riding position is 
> extremely close to the Atlantis. But based on my personal experiences I 
> think this will be the better option. There will be one or two Riv's along 
> for the ride though, so it will be fun to compare our experiences. 
>
> Next summer when my wife and I do an East-coast tour, it will definitely 
> be on the Atlantis though :)
>
> If anyone wants to follow along, the best way it to check my Instagram 
> account at instagram.com/markreimer
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 2:58:43 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> h hunky...that looks like a good choice in the backcountry
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 10:43:33 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm doesn't look like the photo worked. Here it is again:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:49:02 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 Oooh new bike...this sounds exciting!...but I'm sure you want a 
 thorough shakedown before you take it on a long adventure...any pictures 
 of 
 this bike?

 On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony, great photos.
>
> Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time 
> to ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the 
> divide after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was 
> some confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
> between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
> plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
> per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
> planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.
>
> So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be 
> renting a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to 
> get in at least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside 
> of 
> town.
>
> The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just 
> purchased a new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be 
> known moving forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I 
> toured with him on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his 
> prototype 
> frame, so I had a lot of time to check it out.
>
> It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 
> 650b x 2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire 
> width, but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which 
> doesn't leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a 
> long back-country trip. We'll see. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years 
>> ago on my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported 
>> ride, meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
>> My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if 
>> you have any questions I can help with.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate 
>> Wolf
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> . How about it, any of you 

[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Figured I'd share a quick update about this divide trip. I'm flying West on 
Wednesday in the early morning, with the hope of riding a short distance 
out of Banff in the evening for my first night. I've decided not to ride 
the Atlantis in the end. Not because I don't think it could handle it (of 
course it could) but because I've put together a bike that I believe will 
handle it better. 

I've built up the 26+ plus bike pictured below, and just returned from a 
three-day 360km off road tour that featured very comparable terrain to the 
Divide. The added cushion from the 3" tubeless tires and the remarkable 
stopping power in wet and muddy conditions with the Paul Klamper disc 
brakes are what ultimately sold me. The carrying capacity and weight are 
pretty similar between the two bikes. The overall riding position is 
extremely close to the Atlantis. But based on my personal experiences I 
think this will be the better option. There will be one or two Riv's along 
for the ride though, so it will be fun to compare our experiences. 

Next summer when my wife and I do an East-coast tour, it will definitely be 
on the Atlantis though :)

If anyone wants to follow along, the best way it to check my Instagram 
account at instagram.com/markreimer








On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 2:58:43 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> h hunky...that looks like a good choice in the backcountry
>
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 10:43:33 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hmm doesn't look like the photo worked. Here it is again:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:49:02 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh new bike...this sounds exciting!...but I'm sure you want a thorough 
>>> shakedown before you take it on a long adventure...any pictures of this 
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Thanks Tony, great photos.

 Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time 
 to ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the 
 divide after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was 
 some confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
 between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
 plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
 per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
 planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.

 So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be 
 renting a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to 
 get in at least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside of 
 town.

 The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just 
 purchased a new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be 
 known moving forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I 
 toured with him on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his 
 prototype 
 frame, so I had a lot of time to check it out.

 It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 650b 
 x 2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire 
 width, 
 but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which doesn't 
 leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a long 
 back-country trip. We'll see. 



 On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years ago 
> on my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported ride, 
> meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
> My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if 
> you have any questions I can help with.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1
>
> Tony
>
> "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate 
> Wolf
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> . How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Ryan Fleming]

h hunky...that looks like a good choice in the backcountry

On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 10:43:33 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hmm doesn't look like the photo worked. Here it is again:
>
>
> 
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:49:02 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Oooh new bike...this sounds exciting!...but I'm sure you want a thorough 
>> shakedown before you take it on a long adventure...any pictures of this 
>> bike?
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Tony, great photos.
>>>
>>> Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time 
>>> to ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the 
>>> divide after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was 
>>> some confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
>>> between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
>>> plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
>>> per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
>>> planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.
>>>
>>> So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be 
>>> renting a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to 
>>> get in at least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside of 
>>> town.
>>>
>>> The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just 
>>> purchased a new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be 
>>> known moving forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I 
>>> toured with him on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his prototype 
>>> frame, so I had a lot of time to check it out.
>>>
>>> It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 650b 
>>> x 2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire width, 
>>> but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which doesn't 
>>> leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a long 
>>> back-country trip. We'll see. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years ago 
 on my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported ride, 
 meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
 My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if 
 you have any questions I can help with.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1

 Tony

 "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate 
 Wolf


 On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> . How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Hmm doesn't look like the photo worked. Here it is again:



On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:49:02 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Oooh new bike...this sounds exciting!...but I'm sure you want a thorough 
> shakedown before you take it on a long adventure...any pictures of this 
> bike?
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tony, great photos.
>>
>> Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time to 
>> ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the divide 
>> after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was some 
>> confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
>> between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
>> plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
>> per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
>> planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.
>>
>> So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be 
>> renting a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to 
>> get in at least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside of 
>> town.
>>
>> The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just purchased 
>> a new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be known moving 
>> forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I toured with him 
>> on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his prototype frame, so I had 
>> a lot of time to check it out.
>>
>> It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 650b x 
>> 2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire width, 
>> but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which doesn't 
>> leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a long 
>> back-country trip. We'll see. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years ago 
>>> on my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported ride, 
>>> meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
>>> My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if you 
>>> have any questions I can help with.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate Wolf
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Hello,

 . How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 







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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Ryan Fleming]

Oooh new bike...this sounds exciting!...but I'm sure you want a thorough 
shakedown before you take it on a long adventure...any pictures of this 
bike?

On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 4:24:54 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony, great photos.
>
> Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time to 
> ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the divide 
> after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was some 
> confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
> between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
> plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
> per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
> planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.
>
> So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be renting 
> a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to get in at 
> least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside of town.
>
> The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just purchased 
> a new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be known moving 
> forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I toured with him 
> on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his prototype frame, so I had 
> a lot of time to check it out.
>
> It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 650b x 
> 2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire width, 
> but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which doesn't 
> leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a long 
> back-country trip. We'll see. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years ago on 
>> my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported ride, 
>> meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
>> My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if you 
>> have any questions I can help with.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate Wolf
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> . How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Thanks Tony, great photos.

Trip planning is making slow progress. It looks like I won't have time to 
ride the Icefields Parkway from Jasper to Banff before starting the divide 
after all. The distance will just be too much. I think there was some 
confusion between distances being referred to in miles vs kilometers 
between me and some other guys in the group, and all of a sudden when I 
plotted the GPS route I discovered my daily average would be about 140km 
per day for 10 days straight. That's leaving no room for unexpected and 
planned stops, weather, injury, gear malfunction and other delays.

So, even though my flight is already booked into Edmonton, I'll be renting 
a car and driving straight to Banff for the start. I'm hoping to get in at 
least 20km of riding the first day so I can bush camp outside of town.

The plan is still to ride the Atlantis, though I have also just purchased a 
new bike this week: a Crust Evasion, or DFL as they will be known moving 
forward. This is a new brand started by a friend of mine. I toured with him 
on the Oregon Outback last year while he rode his prototype frame, so I had 
a lot of time to check it out.

It's a 26" Plus rigid frame, with clearance for 26" x 3" tires, or 650b x 
2.5. I'm tempted to bring this on the ride for the additional tire width, 
but I won't even have the bike for at least another month, which doesn't 
leave much time to finish building it up, test it, and leave on a long 
back-country trip. We'll see. 



On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 2:27:42 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years ago on 
> my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported ride, 
> meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
> My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if you 
> have any questions I can help with.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1
>
> Tony
>
> "Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate Wolf
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> . How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Tony]

Hi Mark,

I did the Adventure Cycling Montana Great Divide route a few years ago on 
my Sam Hillborne with Albatross bars.  It was a fully supported ride, 
meaning they carried our gear in a van. 
My Flickr account is only 3 pages and most are of that week.PM me if you 
have any questions I can help with.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/page1

Tony

"Where the rivers change direction - across the Great Divide" _ Kate Wolf


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>
> Hello,
>
> . How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Ah, excellent advice. My Atlantis can fit 2.25 thunder burts but there is
very little clearance on the sides. Like...maybe 2mm per side. I rode the
Oregon Outback and across Washington with that setup last year, more than
half of it in the rain on gravel and dirt. It was totally fine. The second
it gets tacky or sticky though the entire thing locks up hard. If this
isn't sticky terrain, I'd definitely go to 2.25 tires again.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Jonathan Black <
jonathanaaronbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I rode the GDMBR Canada section in July 2015 from Banff to Eureka, MT.  I
> rode on 2.1 inch tires.  It worked OK, I guess.  This July 2016 I'm going
> to ride the Montana section with 3 inch tires.  So, bottom line:  2.1 will
> do, but more rubber is highly desirable on this trail.  When the going gets
> tough, you'll want more rubber.  But when it is easy, your 2.1 tire will
> fly.  Sticky mud is not a concern, wet gravel is.
> Good luck!
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:30:27 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Oh nice, that custom is GORGEOUS!!
>>
>> That settles it then. I'm hoping to do Jasper to Banff in three days,
>> then Banff to Missoula in 5-6 days.
>>
>> Is sticky mud a big concern? I've been riding 2.1" Tires in the Atlantis
>> for added mud clearance. If it's mostly rocky/gravel I'd opt for 2.25.
>>
>> Can't wait!
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-6, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>>>
>>> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame,
>>> customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to
>>> Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags.
>>> Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some
>>> photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't
>>> over-plan -- "just ride."
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure
 cycling associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana.

 I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then
 riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields
 Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields
 parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers,
 mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.

 From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and
 ride to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering
 how a more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the
 route. I know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read
 that the Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track.
 How about it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail?


 Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?


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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Jonathan Black]

I rode the GDMBR Canada section in July 2015 from Banff to Eureka, MT.  I 
rode on 2.1 inch tires.  It worked OK, I guess.  This July 2016 I'm going 
to ride the Montana section with 3 inch tires.  So, bottom line:  2.1 will 
do, but more rubber is highly desirable on this trail.  When the going gets 
tough, you'll want more rubber.  But when it is easy, your 2.1 tire will 
fly.  Sticky mud is not a concern, wet gravel is.  
Good luck!  

On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:30:27 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Oh nice, that custom is GORGEOUS!!
>
> That settles it then. I'm hoping to do Jasper to Banff in three days, then 
> Banff to Missoula in 5-6 days. 
>
> Is sticky mud a big concern? I've been riding 2.1" Tires in the Atlantis 
> for added mud clearance. If it's mostly rocky/gravel I'd opt for 2.25. 
>
> Can't wait!
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-6, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>>
>> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame, 
>> customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to 
>> Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags. 
>> Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some 
>> photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't 
>> over-plan -- "just ride."
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
>>> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
>>> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
>>> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
>>> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
>>> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>>>
>>> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
>>> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
>>> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
>>> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
>>> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
>>> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Jim Bronson]

Rich, your site appears to be down.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Rich Lesnik  wrote:

> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame,
> customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to
> Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags.
> Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some
> photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't
> over-plan -- "just ride."
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling
>> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana.
>>
>> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then
>> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields
>> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields
>> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers,
>> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>>
>> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride
>> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a
>> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I
>> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the
>> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about
>> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail?
>>
>>
>> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Deacon Patrick]

The Banff extension has long been on my list to ride.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 3:10:25 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>
> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>
> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>
>
> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Rich Lesnik]

I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame, 
customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to 
Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags. 
Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some 
photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't 
over-plan -- "just ride."

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>
> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>
> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>
>
> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Mark Reimer]

Oh nice, that custom is GORGEOUS!!

That settles it then. I'm hoping to do Jasper to Banff in three days, then 
Banff to Missoula in 5-6 days. 

Is sticky mud a big concern? I've been riding 2.1" Tires in the Atlantis 
for added mud clearance. If it's mostly rocky/gravel I'd opt for 2.25. 

Can't wait!

On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-6, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>
> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame, 
> customized for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to 
> Whitefish MT. Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags. 
> Ritchey Crossbite (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some 
> photos on the "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't 
> over-plan -- "just ride."
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
>> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>>
>> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
>> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
>> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
>> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
>> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>>
>> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
>> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
>> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
>> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
>> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
>> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>>
>>
>> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

[Anne Paulson]

Since Rich rode the Divide a few years ago, the Canadian route has
been changed. The new section from Sparwood to the US border has a
worse surface and steeper hills.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Rich Lesnik  wrote:
> I rode my Riv. custom (basically a beefed-up Atlantis-type frame, customized
> for me) from Calgary to Banff, then took the Great Divide to Whitefish MT.
> Full load, front/rear bags, saddle and handlebar bags. Ritchey Crossbite
> (1.6") tires. No problems whatsoever. You can see some photos on the
> "Gallery" page at www.handsonwheels.com. My advice: don't over-plan -- "just
> ride."
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling
>> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana.
>>
>> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then
>> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields
>> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields
>> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers,
>> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>>
>> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride
>> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a
>> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I
>> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the
>> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about
>> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail?
>>
>>
>> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide Route?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I seem to remember that a Riv employee rode a proto-Hunqapillar the entire 
2700+ miles.  I think that speaks well for the Atlantis doing the same. 



On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:10:25 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm planning out a June bike tour to coincide with the adventure cycling 
> associations 40th anniversary party in Missoula, Montana. 
>
> I'm thinking of flying to Edmonton, riding or busing to Jasper, then 
> riding the Icefields Parkway to Banff. Haven't heard of the Icefields 
> Parkway? Do yourself a favour and just Google 'cycling the icefields 
> parkway'. It's Canada's crown jewel for paved bike touring. Glaciers, 
> mountains, wildlife and campgrounds everywhere.
>
> From Banff I want to hop on the Great Divide Mountainbike route and ride 
> to Missoula. Has anyone done that section of it? I'm just wondering how a 
> more traditional touring setup like my Atlantis would handle the route. I 
> know most of the GDMBR is just gravel roads, but I've also read that the 
> Canadian and Montana section is some of the rougher single track. How about 
> it, any of you taken your Rivs on this trail? 
>
>
> Also, anyone going to be in Missoula!?
>
>
>

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