[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
This is why I have held on to my 61cm AHH. I fall "in between" sizes and thought of getting a 59cm Roadeo. I had the same conversation with Mark at Riv and decide that there were more similarities than differences so it was not a meaningful change. The e-mail exchange below: Mark, Hi. I spoke with Will and he suggested an e-mail to you. I ride a 61cm AHH (really like it) but am finding I am doing more and more riding where I am focused on riding by itself, not carrying things or commuting per se. I was considering a Roadeo (also in 61cm or perhaps 59cm size, I can fit both per Riv’s sizing method 87cm PB height)) and aside from rear spacing, shifter mounts, tires size and slight front end geometry difference on the Roadeo, is there a meaningful difference in the tubing types between the two frames? If yes, could you let me know what they might be? Thanks, Brian "Hi Brian, In sizes 59cm and up, the tube spec is pretty similar between the Roadeo and Hilsen. So, the main difference with probably come from lighter components and smaller volume tires, resulting in a more spirited ride feel. This along with slight geometry differences would differentiate the two models. Any other questions, let me know. Mark: On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:03:46 AM UTC-4, Christopher Murray wrote: > > I was at RBHQ in 2010 or 2011 and spoke with Kevin about the Rodeo. My > recollection is he said the tubing is basically the same on the 59cm and up > Rodeos and AHH. I ride smaller bikes so I didn’t pay much attention or > think much of it. I’m sure a quick call to Riv would sort this out. > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
Speaking of such matters, there's a red 57 on Ebay. A demo that was on the Riv site for a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
I was at RBHQ in 2010 or 2011 and spoke with Kevin about the Rodeo. My recollection is he said the tubing is basically the same on the 59cm and up Rodeos and AHH. I ride smaller bikes so I didn’t pay much attention or think much of it. I’m sure a quick call to Riv would sort this out. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
Yes, I had noticed those differences too. Interesting indeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Paul G wrote: > From Mark Abele regarding a 61 cm Roadeo: > > True Temp OX Plat tubing in the main triangle > Top Tube: .8 x .5 x .8mm > Down Tube: .8 x .6 x .8mm > Seat Tube: .6 x .8mm > Chainstay: Reynolds Track Fork Blade 1.2mm > Seat Stay: Double taper 12 x 16 x 11mm (OD; not sure of wall thickness) > > This was in an email response from him in 2013 when I purchased the > frameset. > Great to have those specs, thanks Paul! For whatever it may be worth, the Roadeo I recently measured came in a bit lighter than those specs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps The differences are large and regular enough that I am confident the frame I measured doesn’t match the spec, rather than being a measuring error or somesuch. Interesting! Best, Reed On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 1:26:45 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: >> >> You could email to ask Grant directly. >> >> The only statement I have seen is from Grant in that cyclofiend interview >> where he said Roadeos are 6/4/6. He didn't mention if anything differed >> among sizes there. Just that Roadeos are 6/4/6. >> >> But if someone has a quote on the fact that bigger sizes are different, >> please post it here. That would be helpful to find out for sure about >> tubing specs for different MUSARoadeo sizes. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
John, comparisons are difficult because my previous other bikes were standard non OS frames that were a bit smaller. But the 61cm Roadeo doesn't feel noodly at all to me. It's pretty solid on bumpy descents and I'm thankful for that. I wouldn't want it less "solid" feeling when I'm bombing down a mountain descent at 40+ mph. When pedaling it feels great when I'm having a good day and horrible when not. It's doesn't seem to hold me back at all and I'm faster on average with this bike than my previous road bikes. But I sit on the Roadeo much better and can put more effort into the ride as a result. Better position so more power. So, all told, I have no idea how much the Roadeo's materials and construction contribute to its performance and feel. It could be just a better position. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
I agree, just trying to compare an OS frame with a STD frame John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 6:53:41 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 10/06/2018 06:42 AM, John Hawrylak wrote: > > The OS tubing used on the Roadini would approximately be the same as a > > 1" TT of 1.1/0.9/1.1 an a 1-1/8" DT of 1.3/1.0/1.3. Pretty stout for > > a frame from the 80's. Of course, if the frame is large, stoutness > helps. > > > > That's tubing for a loaded tourer. > > -- > Steve Palincsar > Alexandria, Virginia > USA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
On 10/06/2018 06:42 AM, John Hawrylak wrote: The OS tubing used on the Roadini would approximately be the same as a 1" TT of 1.1/0.9/1.1 an a 1-1/8" DT of 1.3/1.0/1.3. Pretty stout for a frame from the 80's. Of course, if the frame is large, stoutness helps. That's tubing for a loaded tourer. -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
Paul How does the Roadeo ride and planning compare with your other 61cm frames, not considering the weight?? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 2:31:14 PM UTC-4, Paul G wrote: > > This is an interesting discussion. Based on what I can tell, RBW has not > (ever?) attributed the stoutness of their frames as a contributing factor > to how "fast" they are. They mention things like fitness, strength, rider > position and comfort as the contributing factors. They have always > mentioned tubing wall thickness as a design factor based on what the > frame's intended use will be by using terms such as "road gauge" and so on. > They've said the Roadeo is light because that's all the strength that's > needed for a club riding bike. > > If you read through the old Peeking Through the Knothole archives, Grant > clearly outlines how he came to the conclusions he has about all this. > There's no science or anything like that. Just his personal riding > experiences. Interesting stuff. > > But other bicycle gurus and folks on this board claim otherwise. I > personally don't have a enough experience to be sure, but when folks claim > the Roadeo is faster than xyz (when taking build, wheels, tires, etc. into > consideration) I'm inclined to believe them. I'm taking the claims of > "faster" as meaning more speed per amount of physical pedaling effort. Not > handling or descending speed. > > I have a 61cm Roadeo and it's the only RBW frame I've ever ridden so I > don't have a basis of comparison. I have experience with other non-OS > non-Riv steel road frames though. This frame is not as light > construction-wise as the 57cm and smaller Roadeos. Instead, the basic > tubing gauges are in the same range as the Ram, Rom and AHH of the same > size (I had asked the question to Mark at RBW at the time of purchase). I > weight 163 so that seems (to me) to not be a lot of weight for what the > frame must have been designed around in that 61cm size. I always wonder if > the same frame in the lighter gauge of smaller Roadeos would actually be > better FOR ME or not. Would it be too flexy when bombing down a bumpy, > winding descent? Would it be more comfortable? Would it be faster even? I > don't know. Maybe it's perfect already! > > All that said, it would be interesting to see how a 61cm Roadeo would > compare to the Ram, Rom and AHH of the same size as the differences in > stoutness are smaller (nonexistent?) than, say, Lum's smaller lighter gauge > Roadeo when compared to the same sized Ram, Rom and AHH. I wonder if the > speed benefits of a Roadeo frame diminish in the larger 59cm+ sizes and > that the speed benefits are only for the small sized Roadeos. This has made > me ponder the decision of getting the Roadeo when I could have gotten an > AHH for $100 more at the time and gained a significant increase in > versatility. But the marketing materials described the Roadeo as the racy > bike and the AHH as the country bike so... > > Paul > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 10:56:12 AM UTC-7, Mark Schneider wrote: > That would be disappointing, the whole point of the Rodeo is to be a > faster model in the line-up. Oversized tubing is already stiffer, you don't > need a beefier/thicker model, you already have that in AHH. I have a Homer > it's great, but it's designed for a different kind of riding than a Rodeo. > I'd like at least one true performance Riv in the line-up. > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > I was told by Grant that plans were drawn up alteady for the Taiwan > version, which will be longer and stouter than the MUSA version they have > been making. But they haven’t decided if they will go ahead and make it or > not. > > > I think for now you can still get MUSA version.. If you want shorter stays > and thinwall tubing now is the time. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
The OS tubing used on the Roadini would approximately be the same as a 1"
TT of 1.1/0.9/1.1 an a 1-1/8" DT of 1.3/1.0/1.3. Pretty stout for a frame
from the 80's. Of course, if the frame is large, stoutness helps.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 10:58:58 PM UTC-4, jack loudon wrote:
>
> "For me it started with the double-TTs on already plenty stout bikes. As a
> tall and lightweight rider, I've essentially lost interest in their
> products :-("
>
> I'm with you on this. The Roadini frameset in a medium size was reported
> to weigh 7.75 lbs. The top tube is said to be .9/.7/.9 and the downtube is
> tapered from .8 to 1.1. I can think of no reason a road bike designed for
> light loads and fast riding needs to be this stout (my two road bikes, a
> Nordavinden and Pegoretti, weigh 6.25 and 5.5 lbs for frame/fork/headset).
> Grant is a truly brilliant designer, but I can't help thinking his bikes
> would be even better if they were built of lighter/livelier tubing. It is
> his company and he can do what he thinks is best, but with his current
> offerings, I think a lot of former and potential customers are looking
> elsewhere.
> Jack
> Seattle
>
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:51:22 AM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote:
>>
>> That would be a real shame if the Roadeo was stretched and stoutened.
>> There's a strange and increasing homogeneity happening with Rivbikes that
>> has gobbled up nearly all of their models. I don't really understand the
>> point of having half a dozen products that are more or less identical.
>>
>> For me it started with the double-TTs on already plenty stout bikes. As a
>> tall and lightweight rider, I've essentially lost interest in their
>> products :-(
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:08:25 AM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone have any insight into the future of the Roadeo? Grant mentioned
>>> it in his Blagh that it is going to be in the process of being changed a
>>> bit. I'm interested in getting one in the near future (or maybe just a
>>> Roadini) and when the last one popped up here I was short funds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
"For me it started with the double-TTs on already plenty stout bikes. As a
tall and lightweight rider, I've essentially lost interest in their
products :-("
I'm with you on this. The Roadini frameset in a medium size was reported
to weigh 7.75 lbs. The top tube is said to be .9/.7/.9 and the downtube is
tapered from .8 to 1.1. I can think of no reason a road bike designed for
light loads and fast riding needs to be this stout (my two road bikes, a
Nordavinden and Pegoretti, weigh 6.25 and 5.5 lbs for frame/fork/headset).
Grant is a truly brilliant designer, but I can't help thinking his bikes
would be even better if they were built of lighter/livelier tubing. It is
his company and he can do what he thinks is best, but with his current
offerings, I think a lot of former and potential customers are looking
elsewhere.
Jack
Seattle
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:51:22 AM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote:
>
> That would be a real shame if the Roadeo was stretched and stoutened.
> There's a strange and increasing homogeneity happening with Rivbikes that
> has gobbled up nearly all of their models. I don't really understand the
> point of having half a dozen products that are more or less identical.
>
> For me it started with the double-TTs on already plenty stout bikes. As a
> tall and lightweight rider, I've essentially lost interest in their
> products :-(
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:08:25 AM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have any insight into the future of the Roadeo? Grant mentioned
>> it in his Blagh that it is going to be in the process of being changed a
>> bit. I'm interested in getting one in the near future (or maybe just a
>> Roadini) and when the last one popped up here I was short funds.
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
>From Mark Abele regarding a 61 cm Roadeo: True Temp OX Plat tubing in the main triangle Top Tube: .8 x .5 x .8mm Down Tube: .8 x .6 x .8mm Seat Tube: .6 x .8mm Chainstay: Reynolds Track Fork Blade 1.2mm Seat Stay: Double taper 12 x 16 x 11mm (OD; not sure of wall thickness) This was in an email response from him in 2013 when I purchased the frameset. So it's notably more "stout" than the smaller sizes as I stated earlier. As stout as a Ram, Rom and AHH in fact (at that size). That's why I wonder if the differences in speed at that larger size were noticeable, e.g. whether tubing gauge makes a difference speed. Paul On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 1:26:45 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > You could email to ask Grant directly. > > The only statement I have seen is from Grant in that cyclofiend interview > where he said Roadeos are 6/4/6. He didn't mention if anything differed > among sizes there. Just that Roadeos are 6/4/6. > > But if someone has a quote on the fact that bigger sizes are different, > please post it here. That would be helpful to find out for sure about > tubing specs for different MUSARoadeo sizes. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
You could email to ask Grant directly. The only statement I have seen is from Grant in that cyclofiend interview where he said Roadeos are 6/4/6. He didn't mention if anything differed among sizes there. Just that Roadeos are 6/4/6. But if someone has a quote on the fact that bigger sizes are different, please post it here. That would be helpful to find out for sure about tubing specs for different MUSARoadeo sizes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
This is an interesting discussion. Based on what I can tell, RBW has not (ever?) attributed the stoutness of their frames as a contributing factor to how "fast" they are. They mention things like fitness, strength, rider position and comfort as the contributing factors. They have always mentioned tubing wall thickness as a design factor based on what the frame's intended use will be by using terms such as "road gauge" and so on. They've said the Roadeo is light because that's all the strength that's needed for a club riding bike. If you read through the old Peeking Through the Knothole archives, Grant clearly outlines how he came to the conclusions he has about all this. There's no science or anything like that. Just his personal riding experiences. Interesting stuff. But other bicycle gurus and folks on this board claim otherwise. I personally don't have a enough experience to be sure, but when folks claim the Roadeo is faster than xyz (when taking build, wheels, tires, etc. into consideration) I'm inclined to believe them. I'm taking the claims of "faster" as meaning more speed per amount of physical pedaling effort. Not handling or descending speed. I have a 61cm Roadeo and it's the only RBW frame I've ever ridden so I don't have a basis of comparison. I have experience with other non-OS non-Riv steel road frames though. This frame is not as light construction-wise as the 57cm and smaller Roadeos. Instead, the basic tubing gauges are in the same range as the Ram, Rom and AHH of the same size (I had asked the question to Mark at RBW at the time of purchase). I weight 163 so that seems (to me) to not be a lot of weight for what the frame must have been designed around in that 61cm size. I always wonder if the same frame in the lighter gauge of smaller Roadeos would actually be better FOR ME or not. Would it be too flexy when bombing down a bumpy, winding descent? Would it be more comfortable? Would it be faster even? I don't know. Maybe it's perfect already! All that said, it would be interesting to see how a 61cm Roadeo would compare to the Ram, Rom and AHH of the same size as the differences in stoutness are smaller (nonexistent?) than, say, Lum's smaller lighter gauge Roadeo when compared to the same sized Ram, Rom and AHH. I wonder if the speed benefits of a Roadeo frame diminish in the larger 59cm+ sizes and that the speed benefits are only for the small sized Roadeos. This has made me ponder the decision of getting the Roadeo when I could have gotten an AHH for $100 more at the time and gained a significant increase in versatility. But the marketing materials described the Roadeo as the racy bike and the AHH as the country bike so... Paul On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 10:56:12 AM UTC-7, Mark Schneider wrote: That would be disappointing, the whole point of the Rodeo is to be a faster model in the line-up. Oversized tubing is already stiffer, you don't need a beefier/thicker model, you already have that in AHH. I have a Homer it's great, but it's designed for a different kind of riding than a Rodeo. I'd like at least one true performance Riv in the line-up. On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: I was told by Grant that plans were drawn up alteady for the Taiwan version, which will be longer and stouter than the MUSA version they have been making. But they haven’t decided if they will go ahead and make it or not. I think for now you can still get MUSA version.. If you want shorter stays and thinwall tubing now is the time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
Regardless of anything else it’s this homogeneity - or the perception of it - that typifies the most recent MIT offerings. I wonder how much differently a modern MIT Sam/Homer (merged in the MIT transition) rides than a modern MIT Atlantis/Hunq (merged in the MIT Transition)? Then again - Riv knows how many Roadeos they sold and I’m guessing it ain’t many. Since I’m not in the market for anything but a Clem L or Bebe I’m not a potential sale they’re losing. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
That would be a real shame if the Roadeo was stretched and stoutened. There's a strange and increasing homogeneity happening with Rivbikes that has gobbled up nearly all of their models. I don't really understand the point of having half a dozen products that are more or less identical. For me it started with the double-TTs on already plenty stout bikes. As a tall and lightweight rider, I've essentially lost interest in their products :-( KJ On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:08:25 AM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote: > > Anyone have any insight into the future of the Roadeo? Grant mentioned it > in his Blagh that it is going to be in the process of being changed a bit. > I'm interested in getting one in the near future (or maybe just a Roadini) > and when the last one popped up here I was short funds. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
I wholeheartedly agree. Grant, don't stouten up the Roadeo; do that to the Roadini, or let the Roadeo be a special order like the Legolas. Even Rivendell needs one bona fide gofast model. And don't put no stinking rack bosses on it, either. Amen. Patrick Moore, for whom the present Rodeo is the bike at the top of his present "would like to get, if ..." list. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:56 AM Mark Schneider wrote: > That would be disappointing, the whole point of the Rodeo is to be a > faster model in the line-up. Oversized tubing is already stiffer, you don't > need a beefier/thicker model, you already have that in AHH. I have a Homer > it's great, but it's designed for a different kind of riding than a Rodeo. > I'd like at least one true performance Riv in the line-up. > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: >> >> I was told by Grant that plans were drawn up alteady for the Taiwan >> version, which will be longer and stouter than the MUSA version they have >> been making. But they haven’t decided if they will go ahead and make it or >> not. >> >> >> I think for now you can still get MUSA version.. If you want shorter >> stays and thinwall tubing now is the time. >> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ** ** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
Yeah, that sounds like a lugged Roadini to me. They don't need one, the MIT Roadeo should be the exact same lugged bike, just cheaper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?
That would be disappointing, the whole point of the Rodeo is to be a faster model in the line-up. Oversized tubing is already stiffer, you don't need a beefier/thicker model, you already have that in AHH. I have a Homer it's great, but it's designed for a different kind of riding than a Rodeo. I'd like at least one true performance Riv in the line-up. On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > I was told by Grant that plans were drawn up alteady for the Taiwan > version, which will be longer and stouter than the MUSA version they have > been making. But they haven’t decided if they will go ahead and make it or > not. > > > I think for now you can still get MUSA version.. If you want shorter stays > and thinwall tubing now is the time. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
