[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[John]

Awesome build! The Sergio green is great. Curious to hear how you think it 
rides. I've got an All City Space Horse that while not spot on, is pretty 
close to the geo of a Roadini, that I absolutely love.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[jaredwilson]

Love this build, and good info as I'm also 6'1 with an 89cm PBH.

Hope you get tons of lovely miles out of this beaut!

jared

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 7:28:29 PM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> Solid bike, Brent! So glad to see how nicely it turned out, especially 
> with that gorgeous silver drivetrain.
>
> I've got about 300ish miles on my Roadini now and I couldn't be happier. 
> Oddly enough, I have been spending more time on my Hillborne because I 
> don't want to feel guilty by leaving it in the garage. Can't wait to hear 
> your impression by the end of the summer.almost wondering if you'll 
> prefer the Leo to the Sam.
>
> Happy trails,
> Tony
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:27:41 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Took the Roadini for a 3 mile test ride and safety check and got some 
>> initial impressions. 
>>
>> 1. It felt expectedly similar to my Sam. The cockpit was a direct swap 
>> from Sam to Leo, makes sense. I bombed a lil hill that turned into gravel, 
>> felt very stable even when a dog ran out at me to join at my flank. I then 
>> climbed a steep street, seated in 36Fx30R, which is promising knowing I 
>> have a 24t option in front and will climb longer/steeper. If I stripped my 
>> Sam and put on slicks I’d be just as fast. Do I regret building this bike? 
>> Not yet and not likely. 
>>
>> 2. This seat won’t suit me for longer rides. My sit bones felt like they 
>> were on a wood beam. 
>>
>> 3. Even with the tall stack, sloped top tube, and my long arms, I still 
>> wished my hoods were 2” closer to me. 
>>
>> Sunshine has yet to hit this bike.  ¯\_(˘͡ ˘̯)_/¯ 
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Jay  wrote:
>>
>> Looks great.  You have me questioning the Dark Gold I selected ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For the seat height inquiries:
>>>
>>> Both my bikes are currently 41” top of saddle to the ground. The Roadini 
>>> has less BB drop so top of saddle to crank bolt center is 31”, where the 
>>> Sam is 31.5”. I may end up raising the saddle on the Roadini. Hard to 
>>> compare a broken in B17 to C17 as well. I could probably raise both seats 
>>> 1” and still have a knee bend at bottom of pedal stroke. 
>>>
>>> I am 6’1” with 89cm PBH 
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 11:10 AM, John Bokman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Brenton, thanks for the post; nice looking bike. As weather allows, 
>>> please let us know how this bike rides compared to your Sam (especially 
>>> when it was in drop-bar mode). I'm sure I'm not the only Sam rider who is 
>>> curious about this comparison.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:49:51 AM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but 
 it was a fun project. I will report back after some miles.

 It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland 
 snow+ice+wind. Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about 
 components I was only mildly interested in before. Shopping for NOS+used 
 parts on eBay was surprisingly fun, especially if you're after components 
 that most folks ignore. I watched all the "built by blue lug" videos, 
 highly recommend watching for both zen, appreciation of expertise, and 
 educational instruction (though they are not intentionally instructional).


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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[Tony Lockhart]

Solid bike, Brent! So glad to see how nicely it turned out, especially with 
that gorgeous silver drivetrain.

I've got about 300ish miles on my Roadini now and I couldn't be happier. 
Oddly enough, I have been spending more time on my Hillborne because I 
don't want to feel guilty by leaving it in the garage. Can't wait to hear 
your impression by the end of the summer.almost wondering if you'll 
prefer the Leo to the Sam.

Happy trails,
Tony

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:27:41 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> Took the Roadini for a 3 mile test ride and safety check and got some 
> initial impressions. 
>
> 1. It felt expectedly similar to my Sam. The cockpit was a direct swap 
> from Sam to Leo, makes sense. I bombed a lil hill that turned into gravel, 
> felt very stable even when a dog ran out at me to join at my flank. I then 
> climbed a steep street, seated in 36Fx30R, which is promising knowing I 
> have a 24t option in front and will climb longer/steeper. If I stripped my 
> Sam and put on slicks I’d be just as fast. Do I regret building this bike? 
> Not yet and not likely. 
>
> 2. This seat won’t suit me for longer rides. My sit bones felt like they 
> were on a wood beam. 
>
> 3. Even with the tall stack, sloped top tube, and my long arms, I still 
> wished my hoods were 2” closer to me. 
>
> Sunshine has yet to hit this bike.  ¯\_(˘͡ ˘̯)_/¯ 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Jay  wrote:
>
> Looks great.  You have me questioning the Dark Gold I selected ;-)
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> For the seat height inquiries:
>>
>> Both my bikes are currently 41” top of saddle to the ground. The Roadini 
>> has less BB drop so top of saddle to crank bolt center is 31”, where the 
>> Sam is 31.5”. I may end up raising the saddle on the Roadini. Hard to 
>> compare a broken in B17 to C17 as well. I could probably raise both seats 
>> 1” and still have a knee bend at bottom of pedal stroke. 
>>
>> I am 6’1” with 89cm PBH 
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 11:10 AM, John Bokman  wrote:
>>
>> Brenton, thanks for the post; nice looking bike. As weather allows, 
>> please let us know how this bike rides compared to your Sam (especially 
>> when it was in drop-bar mode). I'm sure I'm not the only Sam rider who is 
>> curious about this comparison.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:49:51 AM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but 
>>> it was a fun project. I will report back after some miles.
>>>
>>> It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland 
>>> snow+ice+wind. Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about 
>>> components I was only mildly interested in before. Shopping for NOS+used 
>>> parts on eBay was surprisingly fun, especially if you're after components 
>>> that most folks ignore. I watched all the "built by blue lug" videos, 
>>> highly recommend watching for both zen, appreciation of expertise, and 
>>> educational instruction (though they are not intentionally instructional).
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[Jay]

Looks great.  You have me questioning the Dark Gold I selected ;-)

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> For the seat height inquiries:
>
> Both my bikes are currently 41” top of saddle to the ground. The Roadini 
> has less BB drop so top of saddle to crank bolt center is 31”, where the 
> Sam is 31.5”. I may end up raising the saddle on the Roadini. Hard to 
> compare a broken in B17 to C17 as well. I could probably raise both seats 
> 1” and still have a knee bend at bottom of pedal stroke. 
>
> I am 6’1” with 89cm PBH 
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 11:10 AM, John Bokman  wrote:
>
> Brenton, thanks for the post; nice looking bike. As weather allows, 
> please let us know how this bike rides compared to your Sam (especially 
> when it was in drop-bar mode). I'm sure I'm not the only Sam rider who is 
> curious about this comparison.
>
>
>
> John
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:49:51 AM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but it 
>> was a fun project. I will report back after some miles.
>>
>> It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland 
>> snow+ice+wind. Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about 
>> components I was only mildly interested in before. Shopping for NOS+used 
>> parts on eBay was surprisingly fun, especially if you're after components 
>> that most folks ignore. I watched all the "built by blue lug" videos, 
>> highly recommend watching for both zen, appreciation of expertise, and 
>> educational instruction (though they are not intentionally instructional).
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[Brenton Eastman]

For the seat height inquiries:Both my bikes are currently 41” top of saddle to the ground. The Roadini has less BB drop so top of saddle to crank bolt center is 31”, where the Sam is 31.5”. I may end up raising the saddle on the Roadini. Hard to compare a broken in B17 to C17 as well. I could probably raise both seats 1” and still have a knee bend at bottom of pedal stroke. I am 6’1” with 89cm PBH On Jan 22, 2024, at 11:10 AM, John Bokman  wrote:Brenton, thanks for the post; nice looking bike. As weather allows, please let us know how this bike rides compared to your Sam (especially when it was in drop-bar mode). I'm sure I'm not the only Sam rider who is curious about this comparison.JohnOn Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:49:51 AM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but it was a fun project. I will report back after some miles.It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland snow+ice+wind. Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about components I was only mildly interested in before. Shopping for NOS+used parts on eBay was surprisingly fun, especially if you're after components that most folks ignore. I watched all the "built by blue lug" videos, highly recommend watching for both zen, appreciation of expertise, and educational instruction (though they are not intentionally instructional).



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[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[John Bokman]

Brenton, thanks for the post; nice looking bike. As weather allows, please 
let us know how this bike rides compared to your Sam (especially when it 
was in drop-bar mode). I'm sure I'm not the only Sam rider who is curious 
about this comparison.

John
On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:49:51 AM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but it 
> was a fun project. I will report back after some miles.
>
> It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland 
> snow+ice+wind. Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about 
> components I was only mildly interested in before. Shopping for NOS+used 
> parts on eBay was surprisingly fun, especially if you're after components 
> that most folks ignore. I watched all the "built by blue lug" videos, 
> highly recommend watching for both zen, appreciation of expertise, and 
> educational instruction (though they are not intentionally instructional).
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[Brian Witt]

Very nice build!  well thought out...nothing 'stuck on' or out of character 
for its mission...  I am also trying to decide between 57 and 61, and would 
like to know the saddle height on your bike...


On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:

> Nice! Curious what your saddle height is in the photos. I'm maybe about to 
> pull the trigger and am on the fence between the 57 & 61. 
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 4:34:53 PM UTC-6 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all the advice and guidance from folks here on my second 
>> Rivendell build! Turns out there are quite a few folks with a "Country 
>> Bike" that also went for a +1 Roadini. 
>>
>> I've set up my 2017 Sam Hillborne several different ways; first it was 
>> drops+road focused, then it was a Riv 1.0 camping basket bike, then it got 
>> lighter wheels and no basket, then flat bars and knobbies, then it lost 
>> it's F+R racks, fenders have come and gone, and in each phase it's been 
>> "perfect". 
>>
>> I just *wanted* a +1 and the +1 was to be lighter and faster. Months ago 
>> I was looking at 90s racing and sport tourers as cheaper alternatives to a 
>> Roadini, perhaps also lighter, and less well rounded, and more definitively 
>> alternative to my Sam. I test rode some: Specialized Sequoia, Waterford 22 
>> Series, Bridgestone RB1. Nothing felt like the right move. I was being 
>> patient, doing the research, etc, when a Roadini frameset in my size and my 
>> preferred color was posted here, and the owner Lived 2 hours away. Let's go.
>>
>> Using Sam's lighter wheelset, former drop bar cockpit, and a few other 
>> parts bin items, I was able to keep the entire build within my budget. I 
>> bought a lot of NOS and pre-owned components for great prices. Stoked. I'm 
>> happy with how it came out. There's a whole bunch of component 
>> interchangeability with these two bikes, which *may* come in handy some 
>> day. Weather in PNW has been bad for riding, good for wrenching. I still 
>> haven't ridden it yet. 
>>
>> The only thing I was not stoked on was the Ultegra FD inner cage plate 
>> rubbed the middle ring when shifting to big ring. It was already up 
>> high-ish to not hit the chainstay. So now it's even higher out of 
>> necessity. It bothers me a lil bit. Bars and seat height+angle subject to 
>> change after test ride. Right now the drops swing just under the top tube 
>> to avoid dings.
>>
>> [image: LM000884.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000881.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000880.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000883.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000887.jpeg]
>>
>> Build List:
>> 57cm Roadini Sergio Green
>> Nitto Noodle 48cm bars
>> Nitto Tallux 8cm stem
>> Shimano Tiagra levers
>> Blue Lug cotton tape (not as long as newbaums)
>> Tektro R559 brakes
>> Nissen clear housing
>> Velocity Dyad 32H, Deore w/11-32, SP front hub
>> Ultradynamico Cava 700x42
>> Sugino XD2 46/36/24
>> Ultegra 6500 FD + RD
>> Suntour Superbe DT shifters
>> Wellgo Pedals with *gasp *cages
>> Brooks C17 seat
>> King bottle cages
>> A few brass bling bits from Riv + Blue Lug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[Brenton Eastman]

I haven't ridden it enough to decide if it was the perfect +1 yet, but it 
was a fun project. I will report back after some miles.

It was great way to spend my time during 2 weeks of Portland snow+ice+wind. 
Did lots of research, and learned a ton more about components I was only 
mildly interested in before. Shopping for NOS+used parts on eBay was 
surprisingly fun, especially if you're after components that most folks 
ignore. I watched all the "built by blue lug" videos, highly recommend 
watching for both zen, appreciation of expertise, and educational 
instruction (though they are not intentionally instructional).


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[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[zem...@gmail.com]

Such a fantastic build, Brenton! 

Is the bike giving you what you were looking for in your +1 from your 
country bike?

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 5:34:53 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks to all the advice and guidance from folks here on my second 
> Rivendell build! Turns out there are quite a few folks with a "Country 
> Bike" that also went for a +1 Roadini. 
>
> I've set up my 2017 Sam Hillborne several different ways; first it was 
> drops+road focused, then it was a Riv 1.0 camping basket bike, then it got 
> lighter wheels and no basket, then flat bars and knobbies, then it lost 
> it's F+R racks, fenders have come and gone, and in each phase it's been 
> "perfect". 
>
> I just *wanted* a +1 and the +1 was to be lighter and faster. Months ago 
> I was looking at 90s racing and sport tourers as cheaper alternatives to a 
> Roadini, perhaps also lighter, and less well rounded, and more definitively 
> alternative to my Sam. I test rode some: Specialized Sequoia, Waterford 22 
> Series, Bridgestone RB1. Nothing felt like the right move. I was being 
> patient, doing the research, etc, when a Roadini frameset in my size and my 
> preferred color was posted here, and the owner Lived 2 hours away. Let's go.
>
> Using Sam's lighter wheelset, former drop bar cockpit, and a few other 
> parts bin items, I was able to keep the entire build within my budget. I 
> bought a lot of NOS and pre-owned components for great prices. Stoked. I'm 
> happy with how it came out. There's a whole bunch of component 
> interchangeability with these two bikes, which *may* come in handy some 
> day. Weather in PNW has been bad for riding, good for wrenching. I still 
> haven't ridden it yet. 
>
> The only thing I was not stoked on was the Ultegra FD inner cage plate 
> rubbed the middle ring when shifting to big ring. It was already up 
> high-ish to not hit the chainstay. So now it's even higher out of 
> necessity. It bothers me a lil bit. Bars and seat height+angle subject to 
> change after test ride. Right now the drops swing just under the top tube 
> to avoid dings.
>
> [image: LM000884.jpeg]
> [image: LM000881.jpeg]
> [image: LM000880.jpeg]
> [image: LM000883.jpeg]
> [image: LM000887.jpeg]
>
> Build List:
> 57cm Roadini Sergio Green
> Nitto Noodle 48cm bars
> Nitto Tallux 8cm stem
> Shimano Tiagra levers
> Blue Lug cotton tape (not as long as newbaums)
> Tektro R559 brakes
> Nissen clear housing
> Velocity Dyad 32H, Deore w/11-32, SP front hub
> Ultradynamico Cava 700x42
> Sugino XD2 46/36/24
> Ultegra 6500 FD + RD
> Suntour Superbe DT shifters
> Wellgo Pedals with *gasp *cages
> Brooks C17 seat
> King bottle cages
> A few brass bling bits from Riv + Blue Lug
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[brendonoid]

Such a clean build! That Sergio green is really growing on me too.

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[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[exliontamer]

Nice! Curious what your saddle height is in the photos. I'm maybe about to 
pull the trigger and am on the fence between the 57 & 61. 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 4:34:53 PM UTC-6 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks to all the advice and guidance from folks here on my second 
> Rivendell build! Turns out there are quite a few folks with a "Country 
> Bike" that also went for a +1 Roadini. 
>
> I've set up my 2017 Sam Hillborne several different ways; first it was 
> drops+road focused, then it was a Riv 1.0 camping basket bike, then it got 
> lighter wheels and no basket, then flat bars and knobbies, then it lost 
> it's F+R racks, fenders have come and gone, and in each phase it's been 
> "perfect". 
>
> I just *wanted* a +1 and the +1 was to be lighter and faster. Months ago 
> I was looking at 90s racing and sport tourers as cheaper alternatives to a 
> Roadini, perhaps also lighter, and less well rounded, and more definitively 
> alternative to my Sam. I test rode some: Specialized Sequoia, Waterford 22 
> Series, Bridgestone RB1. Nothing felt like the right move. I was being 
> patient, doing the research, etc, when a Roadini frameset in my size and my 
> preferred color was posted here, and the owner Lived 2 hours away. Let's go.
>
> Using Sam's lighter wheelset, former drop bar cockpit, and a few other 
> parts bin items, I was able to keep the entire build within my budget. I 
> bought a lot of NOS and pre-owned components for great prices. Stoked. I'm 
> happy with how it came out. There's a whole bunch of component 
> interchangeability with these two bikes, which *may* come in handy some 
> day. Weather in PNW has been bad for riding, good for wrenching. I still 
> haven't ridden it yet. 
>
> The only thing I was not stoked on was the Ultegra FD inner cage plate 
> rubbed the middle ring when shifting to big ring. It was already up 
> high-ish to not hit the chainstay. So now it's even higher out of 
> necessity. It bothers me a lil bit. Bars and seat height+angle subject to 
> change after test ride. Right now the drops swing just under the top tube 
> to avoid dings.
>
> [image: LM000884.jpeg]
> [image: LM000881.jpeg]
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> [image: LM000883.jpeg]
> [image: LM000887.jpeg]
>
> Build List:
> 57cm Roadini Sergio Green
> Nitto Noodle 48cm bars
> Nitto Tallux 8cm stem
> Shimano Tiagra levers
> Blue Lug cotton tape (not as long as newbaums)
> Tektro R559 brakes
> Nissen clear housing
> Velocity Dyad 32H, Deore w/11-32, SP front hub
> Ultradynamico Cava 700x42
> Sugino XD2 46/36/24
> Ultegra 6500 FD + RD
> Suntour Superbe DT shifters
> Wellgo Pedals with *gasp *cages
> Brooks C17 seat
> King bottle cages
> A few brass bling bits from Riv + Blue Lug
>
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