[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe V1 build revisited
I always liked those Rosco's. I remember the matte green one RBW posted on their website and then there was a darker green one that had a horizontal second top tube and was taller and shorter (55.5 ST & 600 ETT). The darker one also had canti posts. I REALLY liked that one. [image: Rosco Road 55.5 001.jpg] On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 1:29:32 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > Two B-68 saddled Rosco Bubbe V1s in South Florida! I love it. > > Laing > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 2:16:13 PM UTC-4 frank_a wrote: > >> [image: 77C9D83D-27E8-4F10-9473-B89263B87DFC.jpeg]There’s at least one >> other Rosco in Florida, No 3 resides about 40 miles south of No. 7. I had >> fun following the development of these on the Grant’s Rosco blog and got in >> on the pre-sale. >> B-68 and Tosco bars; it’s a cruiser for sure. >> - Frank >> >> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 1:35:36 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote: >> >>> 1st cleaning is in mineral spirits in a glass jar set in the water. For >>> a used chain I would usually do this twice, after letting the chain soak in >>> the mineral spirits over night. I use Ball wide mouth canning jars. The >>> ultrasonic cleaner came with a holder that is the perfect size for these. >>> Next cleanings are in very dilute Simple Green Heavy Duty (kind of >>> purple in color) - just a splash in about six cups of water directly in the >>> tank - Temperature set to 40 deg C for 8 minutes - I repeat this until the >>> water comes away clean. I de-aerate the water first (this also helps bring >>> the water up to temperature. I originally was using 1/6 SGHD and 5/6 water. >>> When the gallon of SGHD started getting low I started using just the splash >>> and found it worked just as good as 1/6. >>> Last cleaning is in denatured alcohol in a glass jar set in the water. >>> >>> Almost kind of hated to wax the chains after cleaning, they were so >>> bright and shiny. The Wipperman stainless steel chains look like chrome >>> after they are cleaned. >>> I first read about waxing chains in the 70s and never got around to it. >>> I finally bought the equipment and wax 3 years ago, and finally started >>> waxing about 6 months ago. I love that the chains stay clean and dry. Kind >>> of throws wax bits all over the bike for the 1st few rides, but they just >>> wipe off. >>> >>> The waxed chains are also almost silent - The Rosco Bubbe is very quiet >>> with the waxed chain and Deore freehub, unlike when it was a single speed >>> with the White Industries freewheel. >>> I have 20+ bikes and most of them have waxed chains at this point (2 are >>> belt drive). Just a few more to go, but I need a new gallon of mineral >>> spirits, just dropped off the old gallon of dirty spirits at the recycling >>> facility. >>> I even waxed the NOS (New Old Stock) Sedis 5 speed chain on my NOS 1971 >>> Gitane. >>> >>> Laing >>> >>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:38:23 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote: >>> Great job on the rebuild, Laing. I like your selection of components and certain modifications. Got a question for you, though: You mention that you cleaned the chain in an ultrasonic tank. What are you using for a solvent? I use a tank, also, and I use this: https://www.ultrasonicsdirect.com/12decacl.html It's a bit costly for a gallon jug, but it's diluted with water so it goes a long ways. George On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > I has this bike set up as a single speed for the first few years, but > decided to add gears. I really love this frame, the 50cm seat tube, 63 cm > effective top tube fits me well. As I understand it, these first Rosco > Bubbe frames were made by Waterford. There were 10 or 11 of them made, > mine > was frame number 7, but I call it Seven of Nine (Star Trek fans will > understand). I missed the initial sale from Rivendell, but got this from > Rivelo when the original buyer backed out. The 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass > tire are definitely plusher than the 700C x 38 Little Big Bens. > > Frame – Rosco Bubbe V1, frame #7, Flanker Green > > Headset: Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR - roller bearing lower, ball bearing > upper > > Wheels - built by Hands on Wheels; Rich Lesnik - 700C > > Front - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore LX Hub, Velocity Atlas rim, double > butted SS spokes - 3-cross > > Rear - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore Hub - 9 speed, Velocity Atlas rim, > double butted SS spokes - 3-cross > > Tires – Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700C x 44 > > Drivetrain - 2x9 Pink Flamingo gearing > > Crank – VO Drillium 48 - 34 > > Cassette – Shimano Sora-Ace 9-speed 14–27 (Sora 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 > ,19; Dura-Ace 21-24-27) > > Chain - Ultrasonically cleaned and Molten Speed Waxed Wipperman > Connex Stainless Steel 9 speed chain(s) > > Rear Derailleur
[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe V1 build revisited
Two B-68 saddled Rosco Bubbe V1s in South Florida! I love it. Laing On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 2:16:13 PM UTC-4 frank_a wrote: > [image: 77C9D83D-27E8-4F10-9473-B89263B87DFC.jpeg]There’s at least one > other Rosco in Florida, No 3 resides about 40 miles south of No. 7. I had > fun following the development of these on the Grant’s Rosco blog and got in > on the pre-sale. > B-68 and Tosco bars; it’s a cruiser for sure. > - Frank > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 1:35:36 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote: > >> 1st cleaning is in mineral spirits in a glass jar set in the water. For a >> used chain I would usually do this twice, after letting the chain soak in >> the mineral spirits over night. I use Ball wide mouth canning jars. The >> ultrasonic cleaner came with a holder that is the perfect size for these. >> Next cleanings are in very dilute Simple Green Heavy Duty (kind of purple >> in color) - just a splash in about six cups of water directly in the tank - >> Temperature set to 40 deg C for 8 minutes - I repeat this until the water >> comes away clean. I de-aerate the water first (this also helps bring the >> water up to temperature. I originally was using 1/6 SGHD and 5/6 water. >> When the gallon of SGHD started getting low I started using just the splash >> and found it worked just as good as 1/6. >> Last cleaning is in denatured alcohol in a glass jar set in the water. >> >> Almost kind of hated to wax the chains after cleaning, they were so >> bright and shiny. The Wipperman stainless steel chains look like chrome >> after they are cleaned. >> I first read about waxing chains in the 70s and never got around to it. I >> finally bought the equipment and wax 3 years ago, and finally started >> waxing about 6 months ago. I love that the chains stay clean and dry. Kind >> of throws wax bits all over the bike for the 1st few rides, but they just >> wipe off. >> >> The waxed chains are also almost silent - The Rosco Bubbe is very quiet >> with the waxed chain and Deore freehub, unlike when it was a single speed >> with the White Industries freewheel. >> I have 20+ bikes and most of them have waxed chains at this point (2 are >> belt drive). Just a few more to go, but I need a new gallon of mineral >> spirits, just dropped off the old gallon of dirty spirits at the recycling >> facility. >> I even waxed the NOS (New Old Stock) Sedis 5 speed chain on my NOS 1971 >> Gitane. >> >> Laing >> >> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:38:23 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote: >> >>> Great job on the rebuild, Laing. I like your selection of components >>> and certain modifications. Got a question for you, though: You mention >>> that you cleaned the chain in an ultrasonic tank. What are you using for a >>> solvent? I use a tank, also, and I use this: >>> https://www.ultrasonicsdirect.com/12decacl.html It's a bit costly for >>> a gallon jug, but it's diluted with water so it goes a long ways. >>> George >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: >>> I has this bike set up as a single speed for the first few years, but decided to add gears. I really love this frame, the 50cm seat tube, 63 cm effective top tube fits me well. As I understand it, these first Rosco Bubbe frames were made by Waterford. There were 10 or 11 of them made, mine was frame number 7, but I call it Seven of Nine (Star Trek fans will understand). I missed the initial sale from Rivendell, but got this from Rivelo when the original buyer backed out. The 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass tire are definitely plusher than the 700C x 38 Little Big Bens. Frame – Rosco Bubbe V1, frame #7, Flanker Green Headset: Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR - roller bearing lower, ball bearing upper Wheels - built by Hands on Wheels; Rich Lesnik - 700C Front - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore LX Hub, Velocity Atlas rim, double butted SS spokes - 3-cross Rear - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore Hub - 9 speed, Velocity Atlas rim, double butted SS spokes - 3-cross Tires – Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700C x 44 Drivetrain - 2x9 Pink Flamingo gearing Crank – VO Drillium 48 - 34 Cassette – Shimano Sora-Ace 9-speed 14–27 (Sora 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ,19; Dura-Ace 21-24-27) Chain - Ultrasonically cleaned and Molten Speed Waxed Wipperman Connex Stainless Steel 9 speed chain(s) Rear Derailleur – Shimano Dura-Ace RD-7700 Front Derailleur – Shimano RX-100 Shifters – Dura Ace 9 speed on Paul Thumbies, silver Derailleur Cable – VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, silver Pedals – MKS silver Grip Monarch with side extensions Brakes – Front: Dia Compe 610 center pull, Dia Compe quick release cable hanger. Rear: Tektro R-559 sidepull Brake Levers – Tektro Mountain, silver Brake
[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe V1 build revisited
1st cleaning is in mineral spirits in a glass jar set in the water. For a used chain I would usually do this twice, after letting the chain soak in the mineral spirits over night. I use Ball wide mouth canning jars. The ultrasonic cleaner came with a holder that is the perfect size for these. Next cleanings are in very dilute Simple Green Heavy Duty (kind of purple in color) - just a splash in about six cups of water directly in the tank - Temperature set to 40 deg C for 8 minutes - I repeat this until the water comes away clean. I de-aerate the water first (this also helps bring the water up to temperature. I originally was using 1/6 SGHD and 5/6 water. When the gallon of SGHD started getting low I started using just the splash and found it worked just as good as 1/6. Last cleaning is in denatured alcohol in a glass jar set in the water. Almost kind of hated to wax the chains after cleaning, they were so bright and shiny. The Wipperman stainless steel chains look like chrome after they are cleaned. I first read about waxing chains in the 70s and never got around to it. I finally bought the equipment and wax 3 years ago, and finally started waxing about 6 months ago. I love that the chains stay clean and dry. Kind of throws wax bits all over the bike for the 1st few rides, but they just wipe off. The waxed chains are also almost silent - The Rosco Bubbe is very quiet with the waxed chain and Deore freehub, unlike when it was a single speed with the White Industries freewheel. I have 20+ bikes and most of them have waxed chains at this point (2 are belt drive). Just a few more to go, but I need a new gallon of mineral spirits, just dropped off the old gallon of dirty spirits at the recycling facility. I even waxed the NOS (New Old Stock) Sedis 5 speed chain on my NOS 1971 Gitane. Laing On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:38:23 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote: > Great job on the rebuild, Laing. I like your selection of components and > certain modifications. Got a question for you, though: You mention that > you cleaned the chain in an ultrasonic tank. What are you using for a > solvent? I use a tank, also, and I use this: > https://www.ultrasonicsdirect.com/12decacl.html It's a bit costly for a > gallon jug, but it's diluted with water so it goes a long ways. > George > > > On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > >> I has this bike set up as a single speed for the first few years, but >> decided to add gears. I really love this frame, the 50cm seat tube, 63 cm >> effective top tube fits me well. As I understand it, these first Rosco >> Bubbe frames were made by Waterford. There were 10 or 11 of them made, mine >> was frame number 7, but I call it Seven of Nine (Star Trek fans will >> understand). I missed the initial sale from Rivendell, but got this from >> Rivelo when the original buyer backed out. The 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass >> tire are definitely plusher than the 700C x 38 Little Big Bens. >> >> Frame – Rosco Bubbe V1, frame #7, Flanker Green >> >> Headset: Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR - roller bearing lower, ball bearing >> upper >> >> Wheels - built by Hands on Wheels; Rich Lesnik - 700C >> >> Front - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore LX Hub, Velocity Atlas rim, double >> butted SS spokes - 3-cross >> >> Rear - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore Hub - 9 speed, Velocity Atlas rim, >> double butted SS spokes - 3-cross >> >> Tires – Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700C x 44 >> >> Drivetrain - 2x9 Pink Flamingo gearing >> >> Crank – VO Drillium 48 - 34 >> >> Cassette – Shimano Sora-Ace 9-speed 14–27 (Sora 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ,19; >> Dura-Ace 21-24-27) >> >> Chain - Ultrasonically cleaned and Molten Speed Waxed Wipperman Connex >> Stainless Steel 9 speed chain(s) >> >> Rear Derailleur – Shimano Dura-Ace RD-7700 >> >> Front Derailleur – Shimano RX-100 >> >> Shifters – Dura Ace 9 speed on Paul Thumbies, silver >> >> Derailleur Cable – VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, >> silver >> >> Pedals – MKS silver Grip Monarch with side extensions >> >> Brakes – Front: Dia Compe 610 center pull, Dia Compe quick release cable >> hanger. Rear: Tektro R-559 sidepull >> >> Brake Levers – Tektro Mountain, silver >> >> Brake Cables - VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, silver >> >> Seat post - Nitto S-83, 26.8 >> >> Saddle - NOS Brooks B-68, Honey >> >> Stem – Nitto DirtDrop 100mm >> >> Handlebars – Nitto Wavie >> >> Grips - Ergon >> >> Pump - Zefal HPX-3 Classic >> >> Kickstand – Pletscher >> >> Water Bottle Cage: VO >> >> [image: RB1 s.jpg] >> >> I had to file a notch in the front derailleur to get it low enough to >> shift properly. >> >> [image: Notch s.jpg] >> >> Laing >> >> Delray Beach FL >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To
[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe V1 build revisited
Very cool to see one of these again. I saw one at a Riv dealer in the Dallas area years ago, when I was in the area for work. I think they might have had a couple Roadinis as well. Sadly, I was not in the position to buy a bike, though I did buy some orange SKS fenders, the only set I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing. Best regards, Matt in Oswego On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > I has this bike set up as a single speed for the first few years, but > decided to add gears. I really love this frame, the 50cm seat tube, 63 cm > effective top tube fits me well. As I understand it, these first Rosco > Bubbe frames were made by Waterford. There were 10 or 11 of them made, mine > was frame number 7, but I call it Seven of Nine (Star Trek fans will > understand). I missed the initial sale from Rivendell, but got this from > Rivelo when the original buyer backed out. The 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass > tire are definitely plusher than the 700C x 38 Little Big Bens. > > Frame – Rosco Bubbe V1, frame #7, Flanker Green > > Headset: Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR - roller bearing lower, ball bearing upper > > Wheels - built by Hands on Wheels; Rich Lesnik - 700C > > Front - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore LX Hub, Velocity Atlas rim, double > butted SS spokes - 3-cross > > Rear - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore Hub - 9 speed, Velocity Atlas rim, double > butted SS spokes - 3-cross > > Tires – Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700C x 44 > > Drivetrain - 2x9 Pink Flamingo gearing > > Crank – VO Drillium 48 - 34 > > Cassette – Shimano Sora-Ace 9-speed 14–27 (Sora 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ,19; > Dura-Ace 21-24-27) > > Chain - Ultrasonically cleaned and Molten Speed Waxed Wipperman Connex > Stainless Steel 9 speed chain(s) > > Rear Derailleur – Shimano Dura-Ace RD-7700 > > Front Derailleur – Shimano RX-100 > > Shifters – Dura Ace 9 speed on Paul Thumbies, silver > > Derailleur Cable – VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, > silver > > Pedals – MKS silver Grip Monarch with side extensions > > Brakes – Front: Dia Compe 610 center pull, Dia Compe quick release cable > hanger. Rear: Tektro R-559 sidepull > > Brake Levers – Tektro Mountain, silver > > Brake Cables - VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, silver > > Seat post - Nitto S-83, 26.8 > > Saddle - NOS Brooks B-68, Honey > > Stem – Nitto DirtDrop 100mm > > Handlebars – Nitto Wavie > > Grips - Ergon > > Pump - Zefal HPX-3 Classic > > Kickstand – Pletscher > > Water Bottle Cage: VO > > [image: RB1 s.jpg] > > I had to file a notch in the front derailleur to get it low enough to > shift properly. > > [image: Notch s.jpg] > > Laing > > Delray Beach FL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9447b710-e5c6-4cb6-999f-81cc9641dfb1n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe V1 build revisited
Great job on the rebuild, Laing. I like your selection of components and certain modifications. Got a question for you, though: You mention that you cleaned the chain in an ultrasonic tank. What are you using for a solvent? I use a tank, also, and I use this: https://www.ultrasonicsdirect.com/12decacl.html It's a bit costly for a gallon jug, but it's diluted with water so it goes a long ways. George On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > I has this bike set up as a single speed for the first few years, but > decided to add gears. I really love this frame, the 50cm seat tube, 63 cm > effective top tube fits me well. As I understand it, these first Rosco > Bubbe frames were made by Waterford. There were 10 or 11 of them made, mine > was frame number 7, but I call it Seven of Nine (Star Trek fans will > understand). I missed the initial sale from Rivendell, but got this from > Rivelo when the original buyer backed out. The 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass > tire are definitely plusher than the 700C x 38 Little Big Bens. > > Frame – Rosco Bubbe V1, frame #7, Flanker Green > > Headset: Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR - roller bearing lower, ball bearing upper > > Wheels - built by Hands on Wheels; Rich Lesnik - 700C > > Front - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore LX Hub, Velocity Atlas rim, double > butted SS spokes - 3-cross > > Rear - 36 spoke, Shimano Deore Hub - 9 speed, Velocity Atlas rim, double > butted SS spokes - 3-cross > > Tires – Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700C x 44 > > Drivetrain - 2x9 Pink Flamingo gearing > > Crank – VO Drillium 48 - 34 > > Cassette – Shimano Sora-Ace 9-speed 14–27 (Sora 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ,19; > Dura-Ace 21-24-27) > > Chain - Ultrasonically cleaned and Molten Speed Waxed Wipperman Connex > Stainless Steel 9 speed chain(s) > > Rear Derailleur – Shimano Dura-Ace RD-7700 > > Front Derailleur – Shimano RX-100 > > Shifters – Dura Ace 9 speed on Paul Thumbies, silver > > Derailleur Cable – VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, > silver > > Pedals – MKS silver Grip Monarch with side extensions > > Brakes – Front: Dia Compe 610 center pull, Dia Compe quick release cable > hanger. Rear: Tektro R-559 sidepull > > Brake Levers – Tektro Mountain, silver > > Brake Cables - VO braided housing, Yokozuna non-crimp cable ends, silver > > Seat post - Nitto S-83, 26.8 > > Saddle - NOS Brooks B-68, Honey > > Stem – Nitto DirtDrop 100mm > > Handlebars – Nitto Wavie > > Grips - Ergon > > Pump - Zefal HPX-3 Classic > > Kickstand – Pletscher > > Water Bottle Cage: VO > > [image: RB1 s.jpg] > > I had to file a notch in the front derailleur to get it low enough to > shift properly. > > [image: Notch s.jpg] > > Laing > > Delray Beach FL > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3c2a26e3-5e1f-4e88-8907-9ffc499be326n%40googlegroups.com.
