Re: [RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread cyclotourist
Wax does zero good when there's moisture out.  Stick with the dino-product
until it dries up.


On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:31 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote:

 I'd say that ride in the slush did it.  I ride in really wet
 conditions (yesterday, the day before, etc, etc, etc.) If I get home
 from a ride and park the bike in the garage without wiping it
 down...always!... the chain will be a little rusty in a day or two.
 I'd lube it up good and forget about it.

 On Jan 16, 10:16 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
  I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
  less than 100 miles on it.
 
  The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
  blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
  tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
  streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
  Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
  powdering.
 
  I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...
 
  So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
  about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
  components?
 
  Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
  pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I believe chain lubes tend to follow a similar usage pattern much like
people messing with their golf game... there's always something out
there that's the next best thing, that's gonna make your game (or
chain) work better... My 80-year old dad has been buying golf-tip
books, tapes and gadgets for most of his adult life, each time
convinced he had unlocked the secret to improving his putting, his
chipping, his driving... Then one day recently he bought a cheap used
driver at a local thrift store (he couldn't explain why, he already
has a beautiful set of woods), and almost magically he went out and
shot the best round of golf in his life (true story).

I recall convincing myself (for years) that dipping my chain in hot
wax was the only way to go... I finally tired of this method when I
realized I had to do it so often... Since then I've wandered from lube
to lube over the years, through the variety of so-called dry lubes to
ice wax (yuck!) to finally get this... compressor oil... Don't ask
me why, but I find this stuff to be the most reliable (and cheapest).
Really I'm convinced any petroleum-based lube will work just fine, as
long as you apply it correctly, do it often, and clean the chain when
it's mucked up...

So if there's anything I learned from my dad (and my endless quest to
find the ultimate chain lube), it's this:

Stop worrying about it, and use what you've got on your garage
shelf... It's worked for centuries.  Amen.

BB


On Jan 17, 3:05 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wax does zero good when there's moisture out.  Stick with the dino-product
 until it dries up.

 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:31 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote:





  I'd say that ride in the slush did it.  I ride in really wet
  conditions (yesterday, the day before, etc, etc, etc.) If I get home
  from a ride and park the bike in the garage without wiping it
  down...always!... the chain will be a little rusty in a day or two.
  I'd lube it up good and forget about it.

  On Jan 16, 10:16 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
   I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
   less than 100 miles on it.

   The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
   blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
   tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
   streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
   Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
   powdering.

   I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

   So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
   about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
   components?

   Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
   pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'm slowly discovering that the deliberately neglected chain on the
Motobecane grocery bike (no maintenance except to add lube three or
four times a year and wipe off excess) is lasting as long as the
carefully waxed chains on my two Rivs. But I don't get chainring
tattoos or dirty fingers from the Rivs.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Montclair BobbyB
montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe chain lubes tend to follow a similar usage pattern much like
 people messing with their golf game... there's always something out
 there that's the next best thing, that's gonna make your game (or
 chain) work better... My 80-year old dad has been buying golf-tip
 books, tapes and gadgets for most of his adult life, each time
 convinced he had unlocked the secret to improving his putting, his
 chipping, his driving... Then one day recently he bought a cheap used
 driver at a local thrift store (he couldn't explain why, he already
 has a beautiful set of woods), and almost magically he went out and
 shot the best round of golf in his life (true story).

 I recall convincing myself (for years) that dipping my chain in hot
 wax was the only way to go... I finally tired of this method when I
 realized I had to do it so often... Since then I've wandered from lube
 to lube over the years, through the variety of so-called dry lubes to
 ice wax (yuck!) to finally get this... compressor oil... Don't ask
 me why, but I find this stuff to be the most reliable (and cheapest).
 Really I'm convinced any petroleum-based lube will work just fine, as
 long as you apply it correctly, do it often, and clean the chain when
 it's mucked up...

 So if there's anything I learned from my dad (and my endless quest to
 find the ultimate chain lube), it's this:

 Stop worrying about it, and use what you've got on your garage
 shelf... It's worked for centuries.  Amen.

 BB


 On Jan 17, 3:05 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wax does zero good when there's moisture out.  Stick with the dino-product
 until it dries up.

 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:31 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote:





  I'd say that ride in the slush did it.  I ride in really wet
  conditions (yesterday, the day before, etc, etc, etc.) If I get home
  from a ride and park the bike in the garage without wiping it
  down...always!... the chain will be a little rusty in a day or two.
  I'd lube it up good and forget about it.

  On Jan 16, 10:16 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
   I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
   less than 100 miles on it.

   The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
   blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
   tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
   streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
   Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
   powdering.

   I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

   So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
   about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
   components?

   Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
   pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Garth
I can understand you wanting to use a non dino based lube.
Paraffin never worked for me.

Last summer I started using Squirt Lube. It's a water based wax type
lube. I was pretty skeptical of it, but had to try it out. Ha! ...
it's been great. I get between 80-130 miles out of one application,
depending on the weather. I live in Ohio, and I find I need to apply
more often in winter. The great things are: 1. It attracts no dirt.
Even on the dirty midwest winter roads! 2. It's self cleaning.. I mean
truly self cleaning! You don't use more lube to clean it.. it slowly
flakes off as you ride. 3. No more degreasing.. obviously... except to
clean a new chain of course. Here's a good thread on using Squirt.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=508171
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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Garth

I can understand you wanting to use a non dino based lube.
Paraffin never worked for me.

Last summer I started using Squirt Lube. It's a water based wax type
lube. I was pretty skeptical of it, but had to try it out. Ha! ...
it's been great. I get between 80-130 miles out of one application,
depending on the weather. I live in Ohio, and I find I need to apply
more often in winter. The great things are: 1. It attracts no dirt.
Even on the dirty midwest winter roads! 2. It's self cleaning.. I mean
truly self cleaning! You don't use more lube to clean it.. it slowly
flakes off as you ride. 3. No more degreasing.. obviously... except to
clean a new chain of course. Here's a good thread on using Squirt.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=508171
-cheers

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Benedikt
According to the late Sheldon Brown that original grease that your
chain is packed in is the best stuff and you should not degrease it.
I never degrease a new chain anymore and that stuff DOES last the
longest.  Once the chain starts squeaking I apply a little lube.
Right now I'm using Bio Green.  It's plant based and biodegradable.
It's winter and Seattle and my chain gets wet at least 3 times a
week.  I never dry it after riding and it never rusts.

On Jan 16, 10:16 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
 less than 100 miles on it.

 The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
 blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
 tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
 streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
 Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
 powdering.

 I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

 So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
 about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
 components?

 Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
 pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I generally use T9.  I use it to clean and lube the chain and have been 
riding here in St Louis in the snow, rain and sleet.  Just a tad less 
depressing than the Chicago area.  
The spray can makes application easy and the duel purpose clean and lube at 
the same time is nice.
 
When I tour I go to a thick wet lube that turns everything black.. but makes 
everything silent and smooth.  
 
No rust problems.. not saying my way is best.. just what i do.
 
Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/17/11 12:05 AM, cyclotourist at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

Wax does zero good when there's moisture out.  Stick with the dino-product
until it dries up. 

Yep.

My general (California) rule:
Wet conditions = wet lube
Dry conditions = dry lube

Also,  Sheldon mentions it too, but the tacky goop that is on the chain when
in the box works well under a variety of nasty conditions.  If I replace a
chain mid-August on a dusty trails destined bicycle, I might strip it, but
otherwise, I'll leave that in place until it needs lubrication.

Boeshield has been main winter additive (winter being the wet conditions
period for my location.)


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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread mr.trout
Simple green every few rides seems like overkill. A dry clean rag is
all you need for weekly maintenance. Just be sure to get the cogs and
chainrings well, the lube itself seems to do a good job of getting a
lot of the gunk out. If you're careful you can wrap the chainring with
a good toilet paper to help soak it all up. I use wet lube to get
through a salty Chicago winter and never have any real chain issues.

On Jan 17, 11:54 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 1/17/11 12:05 AM, cyclotourist at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wax does zero good when there's moisture out.  Stick with the dino-product
 until it dries up. 

 Yep.

 My general (California) rule:
 Wet conditions = wet lube
 Dry conditions = dry lube

 Also,  Sheldon mentions it too, but the tacky goop that is on the chain when
 in the box works well under a variety of nasty conditions.  If I replace a
 chain mid-August on a dusty trails destined bicycle, I might strip it, but
 otherwise, I'll leave that in place until it needs lubrication.

 Boeshield has been main winter additive (winter being the wet conditions
 period for my location.)

 - Jim

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Philip Williamson
I've started using synthetic motor oil on my chains.
I don't have rusty chains, but they are grimy to touch (which is a
drag, since I have two 'dingle' fixed gears). Plus you can use it for
rebuilding Chris King hubs instead of the $16 CK oil.

 Philip

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On Jan 16, 10:16 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
 less than 100 miles on it.

 The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
 blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
 tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
 streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
 Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
 powdering.

 I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

 So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
 about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
 components?

 Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
 pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Steve
My winter hybrid (with studded tires and used extensively on icy,
salty streets) gets synthetic motor oil on the chain.  I have found
that this works well
to keep slush off and minimize rust, although it does pick up grime.
At the end of the season, I clean it with my Park chain cleaner, lube
again with motor oil, and hang
up the bike for the summer.  The chain has surface rust but the pins
are free and it is flexible which is what counts.  Most of the rust
seems to have appeared when I was using
regular chain lube, not the motor oil.

I have been toying with buying a Wipperman stainless chain but will
wait until the current one gives up the ghost.

Rust is an ever-present problem in snow, slush, and salt.  You learn
to live with it.

Steve

On Jan 17, 12:16 am, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
 less than 100 miles on it.

 The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
 blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
 tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
 streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
 Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
 powdering.

 I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

 So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
 about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
 components?

 Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
 pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread AmiSingh
Just got a fab recommendation of Rock-n-Roll Gold lubrication.  Link
below.

http://www.rocklube.com/gold.htm

500-700 miles dry, 200-300 miles wet between applications sounds
impressive.

Esteban, I'm looking forward to reading your review of the Chain-L.

Thanks for all the feedback and recommendations.

I think I'll start over with a clean chain tomorrow.  In the future
I'll avoid the slurry mix of salt/snow/ice/water/muck.  I'm also going
to return my white lightning ceramic lube. I never really got into
it's black spray-off. Despite chain wipedowns before during and after
a ride it continued to pollute my chain stay.

On Jan 17, 5:31 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm gonna try some of this Chain-L I got from Velo Cult.

 http://www.chain-l.com/

 The people I know who use it say its the best they've tried.

 I'lll let you all know how it goes when I lube the Ebisu and give it a
 twirl.

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

 On Jan 17, 2:18 pm, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote:



  My winter hybrid (with studded tires and used extensively on icy,
  salty streets) gets synthetic motor oil on the chain.  I have found
  that this works well
  to keep slush off and minimize rust, although it does pick up grime.
  At the end of the season, I clean it with my Park chain cleaner, lube
  again with motor oil, and hang
  up the bike for the summer.  The chain has surface rust but the pins
  are free and it is flexible which is what counts.  Most of the rust
  seems to have appeared when I was using
  regular chain lube, not the motor oil.

  I have been toying with buying a Wipperman stainless chain but will
  wait until the current one gives up the ghost.

  Rust is an ever-present problem in snow, slush, and salt.  You learn
  to live with it.

  Steve

  On Jan 17, 12:16 am, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:

   I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
   less than 100 miles on it.

   The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
   blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
   tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
   streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
   Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
   powdering.

   I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

   So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
   about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
   components?

   Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
   pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread charlie
Heavy oil is a good lubejust wipe off the excess and ride. You
won't melt from a little chain stain. ; )

On Jan 17, 9:01 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just got a fab recommendation of Rock-n-Roll Gold lubrication.  Link
 below.

 http://www.rocklube.com/gold.htm

 500-700 miles dry, 200-300 miles wet between applications sounds
 impressive.

 Esteban, I'm looking forward to reading your review of the Chain-L.

 Thanks for all the feedback and recommendations.

 I think I'll start over with a clean chain tomorrow.  In the future
 I'll avoid the slurry mix of salt/snow/ice/water/muck.  I'm also going
 to return my white lightning ceramic lube. I never really got into
 it's black spray-off. Despite chain wipedowns before during and after
 a ride it continued to pollute my chain stay.

 On Jan 17, 5:31 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm gonna try some of this Chain-L I got from Velo Cult.

 http://www.chain-l.com/

  The people I know who use it say its the best they've tried.

  I'lll let you all know how it goes when I lube the Ebisu and give it a
  twirl.

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Jan 17, 2:18 pm, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote:

   My winter hybrid (with studded tires and used extensively on icy,
   salty streets) gets synthetic motor oil on the chain.  I have found
   that this works well
   to keep slush off and minimize rust, although it does pick up grime.
   At the end of the season, I clean it with my Park chain cleaner, lube
   again with motor oil, and hang
   up the bike for the summer.  The chain has surface rust but the pins
   are free and it is flexible which is what counts.  Most of the rust
   seems to have appeared when I was using
   regular chain lube, not the motor oil.

   I have been toying with buying a Wipperman stainless chain but will
   wait until the current one gives up the ghost.

   Rust is an ever-present problem in snow, slush, and salt.  You learn
   to live with it.

   Steve

   On Jan 17, 12:16 am, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:

I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
less than 100 miles on it.

The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
powdering.

I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
components?

Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-17 Thread rob markwardt
Don't avoid the slush...buy a snow bike!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/3126870205/

On Jan 17, 9:01 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just got a fab recommendation of Rock-n-Roll Gold lubrication.  Link
 below.

 http://www.rocklube.com/gold.htm

 500-700 miles dry, 200-300 miles wet between applications sounds
 impressive.

 Esteban, I'm looking forward to reading your review of the Chain-L.

 Thanks for all the feedback and recommendations.

 I think I'll start over with a clean chain tomorrow.  In the future
 I'll avoid the slurry mix of salt/snow/ice/water/muck.  I'm also going
 to return my white lightning ceramic lube. I never really got into
 it's black spray-off. Despite chain wipedowns before during and after
 a ride it continued to pollute my chain stay.

 On Jan 17, 5:31 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'm gonna try some of this Chain-L I got from Velo Cult.

 http://www.chain-l.com/

  The people I know who use it say its the best they've tried.

  I'lll let you all know how it goes when I lube the Ebisu and give it a
  twirl.

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Jan 17, 2:18 pm, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote:

   My winter hybrid (with studded tires and used extensively on icy,
   salty streets) gets synthetic motor oil on the chain.  I have found
   that this works well
   to keep slush off and minimize rust, although it does pick up grime.
   At the end of the season, I clean it with my Park chain cleaner, lube
   again with motor oil, and hang
   up the bike for the summer.  The chain has surface rust but the pins
   are free and it is flexible which is what counts.  Most of the rust
   seems to have appeared when I was using
   regular chain lube, not the motor oil.

   I have been toying with buying a Wipperman stainless chain but will
   wait until the current one gives up the ghost.

   Rust is an ever-present problem in snow, slush, and salt.  You learn
   to live with it.

   Steve

   On Jan 17, 12:16 am, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:

I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
less than 100 miles on it.

The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
powdering.

I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
components?

Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.- Hide 
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[RBW] Re: Rust on my chain!!!

2011-01-16 Thread rob markwardt
I'd say that ride in the slush did it.  I ride in really wet
conditions (yesterday, the day before, etc, etc, etc.) If I get home
from a ride and park the bike in the garage without wiping it
down...always!... the chain will be a little rusty in a day or two.
I'd lube it up good and forget about it.

On Jan 16, 10:16 pm, AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found a good amount of rust on my almost new chain today! Definitely
 less than 100 miles on it.

 The chain was degreased/stripped of lube, then waxed with an 80/20
 blend of paraffin to bees wax and I've been riding a few miles (15
 tops) 3 times a week in the bitter cold Midwest. Once I rode when the
 streets were a slurry of melting snow, ice, salt and dirt/muck.
 Otherwise, mostly dry roads or when there's been a fresh thick
 powdering.

 I did not expect rust, but maybe I should have...

 So what do I do with my almost new rusty chain and should I worry
 about my bottom bracket or any other parts of the frame or any of it's
 components?

 Note, I like to keep my bike clean, use simple green finished with
 pedro's bike lust every 2 or 3 times I ride in these conditions.

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