[RBW] Re: Sackville gray vs Berthoud gray?

[David Banzer]

Hi Peter,
I've just ran out of gray fabric, but can always get more. The gray rando 
bag is sold. I do have a mini-rando/saddle-wedge set in gray that I haven't 
put up for sale yet, but that'd be a minimalist bag setup.
I do have a Carradice-style bag that I've made for myself: 
http://treetopbags.blogspot.com/2015/07/large-saddlebag-black-black.html
I'm a hobbyist of a bagmaker, still have a lot to learn. I wouldn't put 
myself in the same grouping of the others you mentioned, but aspire to be 
someday when I have more spare time.
David
Chicago

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 10:58:08 PM UTC-5, Peter Adler wrote:
>
> Sorry about that; clicked the wrong button. Further bagmaker links below:
>
> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 8:49:10 PM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote:
>>
>> Ideally, if you want a saddlebag and a handlebar bag to match each other 
>> *exactly*, you'd contact a custom bag maker and have them make both bags 
>> out of the same fabric. If Sackville doesn't make rando bags to your liking 
>> - say, if the BarSack  
>> isn't your cuppa - there are a number of excellent bag makers around, such 
>> as Ruthworks  
>> in San Francisco, Swift Industries  in 
>> Seattle, my friend Phil Woosley/Loyal Designs  in 
>> Richmond, CA, and of course our fellow list-member David Banzer 
>>  in Chicago, among others.
>>
>
> David currently has a traditional rando bag in gray canvas listed, which 
> appears to be the same color as a saddle wedge I got from him not too long 
> ago. A Carradice-style tubular saddlebag is a much bigger item than most of 
> the bags he currently has listed, but I image the engineering isn't 
> radically different. David, do you still have enough yardage left from the 
> lot you got the rando from to do a full saddlebag?
>

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[RBW] Re: Sackville gray vs Berthoud gray?

[Peter Adler]

Sorry about that; clicked the wrong button. Further bagmaker links below:

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 8:49:10 PM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote:
>
> Ideally, if you want a saddlebag and a handlebar bag to match each other 
> *exactly*, you'd contact a custom bag maker and have them make both bags 
> out of the same fabric. If Sackville doesn't make rando bags to your liking 
> - say, if the BarSack  
> isn't your cuppa - there are a number of excellent bag makers around, such 
> as Ruthworks  
> in San Francisco, Swift Industries  in 
> Seattle, my friend Phil Woosley/Loyal Designs  in 
> Richmond, CA, and of course our fellow list-member David Banzer 
>  in Chicago, among others.
>

David currently has a traditional rando bag in gray canvas listed, which 
appears to be the same color as a saddle wedge I got from him not too long 
ago. A Carradice-style tubular saddlebag is a much bigger item than most of 
the bags he currently has listed, but I image the engineering isn't 
radically different. David, do you still have enough yardage left from the 
lot you got the rando from to do a full saddlebag?

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[RBW] Re: Sackville gray vs Berthoud gray?

[Peter Adler]

Even if another vendor/manufacturer could source the same fabric 
type/color, the only way to guarantee that the materials are identical 
matches is to buy from the same production run. Even the most anal of 
manufacturers have variations in materials and dyes between productions. 
Black is the worst; it's very difficult to get blacks to match when you 
take yardage from different dye lots. You either get Zen about it, or you 
plan ahead and get enough yardage upfront to make everything you want.

Ideally, if you want a saddlebag and a handlebar bag to match each other 
*exactly*, you'd contact a custom bag maker and have them make both bags 
out of the same fabric. If Sackville doesn't make rando bags to your liking 
- say, if the BarSack  isn't 
your cuppa - there are a number of excellent bag makers around: Ruthworks 
 in San 
Francisco, Swift Industries in Seattle, 

Peter Adler
a warehouseman in a fabric store several careers ago, who can still 
identify the fiber content from the smell of a burning scrap; it's shocking 
how many bolts say "6% other"
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 12:42:31 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> The grays look different to me, though what "matches" doesn't necessarily 
> mean an exact match to everyone. 
> ...but most likely cannot source the same fabric, at least not in a small 
> quantity. 

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