Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
Oh MAN! Now that is a great looking setup! On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote: Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/yCUb6MARvVY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
What size are they actually? And what rims are they mounted to? On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote: Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/yCUb6MARvVY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
Why are Super Motos better than Big Apples? How are they compared to Big Bens? I just mounted some Big Bens on my Atlantis, and I'm planning a mixed terrain 3-day trip this weekend. I took the Atlantis with the Big Bens out last weekend, and on the single track, the steep gravel uphill and the short steep rocky downhills I missed my Knards. By the way, Northern Californians, I take full credit for the rain this week. I removed the fenders both from my Roadeo (for summer) and my Atlantis (to fit the Big Bens). You're welcome. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:09 AM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote: Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
The super motos are substantially lighter than the Big Bens to my understanding, so they should spin up faster and roll easier than the Big Bens. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Why are Super Motos better than Big Apples? How are they compared to Big Bens? I just mounted some Big Bens on my Atlantis, and I'm planning a mixed terrain 3-day trip this weekend. I took the Atlantis with the Big Bens out last weekend, and on the single track, the steep gravel uphill and the short steep rocky downhills I missed my Knards. By the way, Northern Californians, I take full credit for the rain this week. I removed the fenders both from my Roadeo (for summer) and my Atlantis (to fit the Big Bens). You're welcome. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:09 AM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote: Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/ photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/ photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/yCUb6MARvVY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
50 mm tyres with caliper brakes, that's fantastic! Mark, you can get SuperMotos from the EU if you're prepared to pay shipping. I just bought some from bike-components.de to replace the worn big apples on my Bombadil (I **swear** they're worn, it had nothing to do with New Tyre Envy) but haven't got around to installing them yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Why are Super Motos better than Big Apples? How are they compared to Big Bens? With the Big Apples (the wire bead and thicker puncture protection belt version) I felt like as soon as I quit peddling I would begin coming to a stop unless I over inflated. Over inflating made them less comfortable than I thought they should be with so much volume. The SM with the folding bead, floppy sidewalls, lower tread and lack of puncture protection feel like they're made to roll in the same way that I feel the Compass EL tires are made to roll. I'm currently using the Barlow Pass EL and am not any more impressed with them than the SM. I don't have any experience with the Big Ben but the description and specs look more like a BA than SM. I just mounted some Big Bens on my Atlantis, and I'm planning a mixed terrain 3-day trip this weekend. I took the Atlantis with the Big Bens out last weekend, and on the single track, the steep gravel uphill and the short steep rocky downhills I missed my Knards. By the way, Northern Californians, I take full credit for the rain this week. I removed the fenders both from my Roadeo (for summer) and my Atlantis (to fit the Big Bens). You're welcome. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:09 AM, john muhl john...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/ photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/ photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:25:13 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: What size are they actually? And what rims are they mounted to? About 57mm on Synergy rims. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, john muhl john...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Super Motos on an Atlantis are awesome; way, way better than the Big Apple. The only troubles I had were: double-leg kickstand is a no go and I needed a small extension to get the rear rack high enough. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW3y9zoVq_A/UaOxeUm1SOI/1vY/2glXlne2T4E/s1600/Atlantis%2Bwith%2BSuper%2BMotos.jpg On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: So nice! I love Riv's with big ol fat tires! Have you ever tried Super Motos? I can't seem to find where to buy them, but I'd love to put those on my Atlantis. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce Smitham wrote: That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/ photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/ photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/yCUb6MARvVY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
Re: Supermotos vs. Big Apples: The Big Apples are wire bead with a Kevlar (or similar) belt for flat protection. In 26/559, they come in 2.0(50mm), 2.15(55mm), and 2.35(60mm). The Supermotos are a folding bead with no anti-flat belt. I'm relatively sure that in 26, they come only in 2.35/60mm, and must be imported from the EU. I think they can be found in 29 size domestically. I have experience with Big Apples in 26x2.0 and 2.15 and they are suberb, but I am absolutely in love with the 26x2.35 Supermotos. I had them on my heavy-as-a-tank touring bike and I felt they were a definite improvement over the Big Apples in both suppleness and rolling resistance (could be entirely psychological, of course), and since moved the pair to my newest project, a Surly Troll with Woodchipper drop bars. I swear that bike rolls so smoothly and sweetly that I'm questioning my need for a separate road bike at all. Seeing Jan Heine and Rawland announce their new foray into big smooth 26 rubber just as I was putting the finishing touches on that bike was kind of vindicating - I'd been calling myself a 26 apologist up to that point! Daniel M Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
You're on a *roll*! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne and Big Ben 50's revisited
That's one of the many reasons I love my double top tube Sam. On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You're on a roll! On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. Clearly, further research is required to arrive at a definitive answer. Tough problem; bring as-is on Saturday solicit input from the experts. Hey, I just got the double top tube; you can hoist the bike over your shoulder without dislodging the frame pump. I KNEW there must be a good reason. dougP On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 5:11:08 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the fall, I waffled on whether I would do the Big Ben 50's on a blue Sam Hillborne. Well no more waffling. I do it! Photos kind of rushed, but I just wanted to demonstrate the capability: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17070605792/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17071337951/in/photostream/ I just had a great ride home from work minutes before taking the two photos. Big hill climb, and the big tires, Atlas rim, and heavy load in the rear bag didn't ruin the ride in any way at all. These tires are the Sam's limit. In the rear, there are 2 mm between fender tab below the seatstay bridge and the top of the tire. This bike is incredible. I now can't decide whether I like it best with Big Ben, Smart Sam, or Barlow Pass. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
