Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Paul G]

In sizes larger than 57cm, the tubing for Roadeo isn't much different than 
their other previous road-going designs and is similar to the Ram and AHH. 
It's the size 57 and below that gets the light 7/4/7 tubing...at least for 
the original Waterford-built renditions. Based on that, my guess is that 
your 64cm Quickbeam isn't appreciably more stout than a 63cm Roadeo.

On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 5:04:52 PM UTC-7 Scott Calhoun wrote:

> A 63cm Roadeo remains the one Rivendell that I've always wanted but never 
> owned. My current daily driver is a 64cm Quickbeam which based on the 
> geometry would seem to give me a taste of Roadeo handling in a slightly 
> more stout package. I'm really enjoying seeing Austin and Matt's 63cm 
> builds, as well as all the other cool variations. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Scott Calhoun]

A 63cm Roadeo remains the one Rivendell that I've always wanted but never 
owned. My current daily driver is a 64cm Quickbeam which based on the 
geometry would seem to give me a taste of Roadeo handling in a slightly 
more stout package. I'm really enjoying seeing Austin and Matt's 63cm 
builds, as well as all the other cool variations. 

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 4:00:03 PM UTC-7 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:

> @Drew.  My PBH is right under 85, which puts me squarely in the 57cm frame 
> range according to this chart 
> .  
> But I decided to compare the overall frame measurements to those of the 
> best-fitting bikes that I've previously owned, and base my decision on that 
> instead.  And that put me on a 59cm frame.  So to answer your questions, 
> and compliment what Bill said in response, I don't think PBH should be the 
> sole determinant for sizing a Roadeo.  
>
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 12:07:49 PM UTC-5 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:
>
>> @Tim... I also have a 93 pbh with a 84cm saddle height.  I decided that 
>> the 63cm Roadeo was just not large enough.  I do not like elongated stems 
>> (vertical or horizontal).  I got the 2018 Roadini instead.  It fits 
>> perfectly.  My only gripe with the Roadini is that it is too stiff for my 
>> kind of riding (club rides that can be kind of fast).  I prefer more 
>> lateral compliance in my bicycles, and the Roadini is just stiffer all 
>> round than I like.  I will be selling it.  It rides wonderfully, but 
>> compliance is not its cup of tea.  My SOMA San Marcos which is really 
>> identical to the Roadini has more compliance-- perfect for long distance 
>> stuff and gravel.  I will keep the San Marcos.  It seems that Grant 
>> perfected frame design in the Roadini and the San Marcos: long head tubes 
>> and sloping top tubes for us tall riders really improves comfort 
>> immensely.  My old Riv 'Redwood' was a great bike, but the stem was always 
>> too low, and I really do not like the 'stuck up' stem look.   
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:
>>
>>> @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide 
>>> between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are 
>>> 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a 
>>> bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This 
>>> is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I 
>>> am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless 
>>> form without having to add to many spacers. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high 
 on my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
 versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
 Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
 hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
 was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. 
 At 
 the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
 disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
 uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
 that sense my experience mirrors yours. 

 Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. 
 Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently 
 have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones 
 Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable 
 loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly 
 ride 
 it for those purposes. 

 I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had 
 that bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I 
 would ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross 
 bars, 
 Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
 on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled 
 on 
 a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
 Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal 
 clamp 
 on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
 without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
 my other Riv's in overall versatility. 

 I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular 
 "all road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
 lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
 lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo 

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Gabriel Bruguier]

@Drew.  My PBH is right under 85, which puts me squarely in the 57cm frame 
range according to this chart 
.  
But I decided to compare the overall frame measurements to those of the 
best-fitting bikes that I've previously owned, and base my decision on that 
instead.  And that put me on a 59cm frame.  So to answer your questions, 
and compliment what Bill said in response, I don't think PBH should be the 
sole determinant for sizing a Roadeo.  

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 12:07:49 PM UTC-5 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:

> @Tim... I also have a 93 pbh with a 84cm saddle height.  I decided that 
> the 63cm Roadeo was just not large enough.  I do not like elongated stems 
> (vertical or horizontal).  I got the 2018 Roadini instead.  It fits 
> perfectly.  My only gripe with the Roadini is that it is too stiff for my 
> kind of riding (club rides that can be kind of fast).  I prefer more 
> lateral compliance in my bicycles, and the Roadini is just stiffer all 
> round than I like.  I will be selling it.  It rides wonderfully, but 
> compliance is not its cup of tea.  My SOMA San Marcos which is really 
> identical to the Roadini has more compliance-- perfect for long distance 
> stuff and gravel.  I will keep the San Marcos.  It seems that Grant 
> perfected frame design in the Roadini and the San Marcos: long head tubes 
> and sloping top tubes for us tall riders really improves comfort 
> immensely.  My old Riv 'Redwood' was a great bike, but the stem was always 
> too low, and I really do not like the 'stuck up' stem look.   
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:
>
>> @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide 
>> between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are 
>> 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a 
>> bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This 
>> is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I 
>> am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless 
>> form without having to add to many spacers. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high 
>>> on my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
>>> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
>>> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
>>> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
>>> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At 
>>> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
>>> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
>>> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
>>> that sense my experience mirrors yours. 
>>>
>>> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. 
>>> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently 
>>> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones 
>>> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable 
>>> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride 
>>> it for those purposes. 
>>>
>>> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that 
>>> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would 
>>> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, 
>>> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
>>> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on 
>>> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
>>> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp 
>>> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
>>> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
>>> my other Riv's in overall versatility. 
>>>
>>> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular 
>>> "all road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
>>> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
>>> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. 
>>>
>>> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! 
>>> Although the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom 
>>> builder and talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one 
>>> year out. At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the 
>>> bigger brands out there! 
>>>
>>> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon 
>>> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because 

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Karl Wilcox]

@Tim... I also have a 93 pbh with a 84cm saddle height.  I decided that the
63cm Roadeo was just not large enough.  I do not like elongated stems
(vertical or horizontal).  I got the 2018 Roadini instead.  It fits
perfectly.  My only gripe with the Roadini is that it is too stiff for my
kind of riding (club rides that can be kind of fast).  I prefer more
lateral compliance in my bicycles, and the Roadini is just stiffer all
round than I like.  I will be selling it.  It rides wonderfully, but
compliance is not its cup of tea.  My SOMA San Marcos which is really
identical to the Roadini has more compliance-- perfect for long distance
stuff and gravel.  I will keep the San Marcos.  It seems that Grant
perfected frame design in the Roadini and the San Marcos: long head tubes
and sloping top tubes for us tall riders really improves comfort
immensely.  My old Riv 'Redwood' was a great bike, but the stem was always
too low, and I really do not like the 'stuck up' stem look.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:

> @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide
> between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are
> 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a
> bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This
> is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I
> am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless
> form without having to add to many spacers.
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on
>> my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the
>> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a
>> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I
>> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it
>> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At
>> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be
>> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just
>> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in
>> that sense my experience mirrors yours.
>>
>> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for.
>> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently
>> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones
>> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable
>> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride
>> it for those purposes.
>>
>> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that
>> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would
>> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars,
>> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks
>> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on
>> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use
>> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp
>> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths
>> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines
>> my other Riv's in overall versatility.
>>
>> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all
>> road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's
>> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was
>> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that.
>>
>> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!!
>> Although the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom
>> builder and talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one
>> year out. At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the
>> bigger brands out there!
>>
>> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon
>> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because
>> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a
>>> modern take on components.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>>
 I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a
 Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown 
 above.

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:

> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam
> and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the
> Atlantis for the 

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Bill Lindsay]

Drew Henson asked:  "does pbh still provide the best guidance for sizing a 
roadeo?"

As with most things: it depends.  If by "best" you mean "quickest easiest 
way to make a best guess for a rider who doesn't have a solid idea how they 
want to fit on a bike", then YES, it's still the best way.  If by "best" 
you mean "the absolute best way to provide an optimal fit for every 
possible rider" then NO, it's not the best way and never was.  Riders who 
report that they wish they had gone a size up are telling us they made 
their best guess, and subsequently learned some more things about 
themselves and refined their guess.  

I'm within a few mm of your PBH (86.5) and I own a 59, and I would not 
change it.  In my youth I would have gone with a 57 to get the bars lower.  
I would have run a ~12cm stem.  I'd characterize that setup as a 'race 
setup'.  Now, at 52, I run the bars somewhat higher and use a 10cm 
90-degree threadless stem.  There's still about 5cm of drop, but I think of 
it as more of a dignified road setup.  I totally could rock a 61 and would 
do so if I wanted to run the bars much higher, like an 'all-road' or more 
of a leisurely road setup.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 10:32:46 PM UTC-7 Drew Henson wrote:

> does pbh still provide the best guidance for sizing a roadeo? two posters 
> in this thread think they should have gone a size up. 
>
> my pbh is ~87cm. i have a MIT 58 CM AHH. That bike is perfectly sized for 
> swept back bars but I found it to be a tad too long when i used drop bars. 
>
> for my pbh, in what seems to me to be a classic riv website "nuance", they 
> recommend either 59 or a 61 in the roadeo. (chart suggest 59, frame 
> description says 59 or 61 depending on preferences). I'd go with a 57 if i 
> were just going by stack/reach on bike insights. 
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 7:10:43 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:
>
>> Dear Tim et al:
>>
>> Here is a Flickr gallery of my Roadeo.  It's a 61, I sort of think I 
>> should have gone with a 63 - but the bike rides great and looks terrific.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157719068508932
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:22:19 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
>>> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
>>> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
>>> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
>>> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
>>> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
>>> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
>>> I'm willing to live with that. 
>>>
>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>>
>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Drew Henson]

does pbh still provide the best guidance for sizing a roadeo? two posters 
in this thread think they should have gone a size up. 

my pbh is ~87cm. i have a MIT 58 CM AHH. That bike is perfectly sized for 
swept back bars but I found it to be a tad too long when i used drop bars. 

for my pbh, in what seems to me to be a classic riv website "nuance", they 
recommend either 59 or a 61 in the roadeo. (chart suggest 59, frame 
description says 59 or 61 depending on preferences). I'd go with a 57 if i 
were just going by stack/reach on bike insights. 




On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 7:10:43 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Dear Tim et al:
>
> Here is a Flickr gallery of my Roadeo.  It's a 61, I sort of think I 
> should have gone with a 63 - but the bike rides great and looks terrific.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157719068508932
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:22:19 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
>> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
>> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
>> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
>> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
>> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
>> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
>> I'm willing to live with that. 
>>
>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a Roadeo. 
>> I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down but at 
>> least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>
>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[reynoldslugs]

Dear Tim et al:

Here is a Flickr gallery of my Roadeo.  It's a 61, I sort of think I should 
have gone with a 63 - but the bike rides great and looks terrific.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157719068508932

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA
On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:22:19 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
> I'm willing to live with that. 
>
> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a Roadeo. 
> I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down but at 
> least I'll always have the Sam. 
>
> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

I do miss it. But I’m happy knowing it went to a rider who cherishes it. :-)

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:52 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ahmed, I am forever in your debt for allowing me to wheedle it away from
> you!
> It is truly a lovely bike!
> Thanks much,
> David
>
> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 6:01:10 PM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Nice ride David! :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:55 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's mine, a 55cm frame; The bike was put together by Rivendell. I
>>> acquired it second-hand in March of this year. Nobilette built in late 2019.
>>> It is a very responsive frame, especially compared to the current long
>>> chain stay models.
>>> Photo was taken west of Healdsburg on a hilly ride to the Russian River.
>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-7 Austin B. wrote:
>>>
 @Tim: Measurements from my 63cm Roadeo:

 HT length: 215mm
 Saddle Height: 83.5

 Happy to take any other pics/measurements if you need.

 -Austin

 On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 5:19:43 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I missed the saddle height question.  My saddle height is 81.5cm.
>
> Matt in OKC.
>
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:59:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This
>> gives me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself.
>>
>> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me
>> know the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the 
>> photos
>> you shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the
>> bars up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then
>> my Sam. Thanks!
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>
>>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even
>>> longer, but it is what it is.
>>>
>>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I
>>> was thinking 853?
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7
>>> peterso...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:

 [image: IMG_5468.jpg]

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham
 wrote:

> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes.
> Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road
> bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style.
> Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no 
> racks
> and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a 
> fantastic road
> bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless 
> tires
> and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy 
> going up
> hill but I'm willing to live with that.
>
> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a
> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit 
> down
> but at least I'll always have the Sam.
>
> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!!
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ahmed, I am forever in your debt for allowing me to wheedle it away from 
you!
It is truly a lovely bike!
Thanks much,
David

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 6:01:10 PM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Nice ride David! :-)
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:55 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's mine, a 55cm frame; The bike was put together by Rivendell. I 
>> acquired it second-hand in March of this year. Nobilette built in late 2019.
>> It is a very responsive frame, especially compared to the current long 
>> chain stay models. 
>> Photo was taken west of Healdsburg on a hilly ride to the Russian River.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-7 Austin B. wrote:
>>
>>> @Tim: Measurements from my 63cm Roadeo:
>>>
>>> HT length: 215mm
>>> Saddle Height: 83.5
>>>
>>> Happy to take any other pics/measurements if you need.
>>>
>>> -Austin
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 5:19:43 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>>>
 Tim,

 I missed the saddle height question.  My saddle height is 81.5cm.   

 Matt in OKC.

 On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:59:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This 
> gives me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 
>
> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me 
> know the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the 
> photos 
> you shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the 
> bars up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then 
> my Sam. Thanks!
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
>> longer, but it is what it is. 
>>
>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I 
>> was thinking 853? 
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 
>> peterso...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. 
 Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road 
 bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. 
 Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no 
 racks 
 and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic 
 road 
 bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless 
 tires 
 and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy 
 going up 
 hill but I'm willing to live with that. 

 Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
 Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit 
 down 
 but at least I'll always have the Sam. 

 So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Nice ride David! :-)

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:55 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here's mine, a 55cm frame; The bike was put together by Rivendell. I
> acquired it second-hand in March of this year. Nobilette built in late 2019.
> It is a very responsive frame, especially compared to the current long
> chain stay models.
> Photo was taken west of Healdsburg on a hilly ride to the Russian River.
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 4:00:25 PM UTC-7 Austin B. wrote:
>
>> @Tim: Measurements from my 63cm Roadeo:
>>
>> HT length: 215mm
>> Saddle Height: 83.5
>>
>> Happy to take any other pics/measurements if you need.
>>
>> -Austin
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 5:19:43 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I missed the saddle height question.  My saddle height is 81.5cm.
>>>
>>> Matt in OKC.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:59:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This
 gives me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself.

 To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me
 know the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the photos
 you shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the
 bars up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then
 my Sam. Thanks!
 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:

> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even
> longer, but it is what it is.
>
> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I
> was thinking 853?
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>>
>> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes.
>>> Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road
>>> bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style.
>>> Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no 
>>> racks
>>> and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic 
>>> road
>>> bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless 
>>> tires
>>> and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going 
>>> up
>>> hill but I'm willing to live with that.
>>>
>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a
>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down
>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam.
>>>
>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!!
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Austin B.]

@Tim: Measurements from my 63cm Roadeo:

HT length: 215mm
Saddle Height: 83.5

Happy to take any other pics/measurements if you need.

-Austin

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 5:19:43 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I missed the saddle height question.  My saddle height is 81.5cm.   
>
> Matt in OKC.
>
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:59:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This gives 
>> me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 
>>
>> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me know 
>> the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the photos you 
>> shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the bars 
>> up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then my 
>> Sam. Thanks!
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>
>>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
>>> longer, but it is what it is. 
>>>
>>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I was 
>>> thinking 853? 
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:

 [image: IMG_5468.jpg]

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just 
> a 
> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I 
> find 
> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
> I'm willing to live with that. 
>
> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>
> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[MCT]

Tim,

I missed the saddle height question.  My saddle height is 81.5cm.   

Matt in OKC.

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 12:59:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This gives 
> me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 
>
> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me know 
> the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the photos you 
> shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the bars 
> up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then my 
> Sam. Thanks!
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
>> longer, but it is what it is. 
>>
>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I was 
>> thinking 853? 
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
 some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
 This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
 clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
 x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
 rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I 
 find 
 it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
 I'm willing to live with that. 

 Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
 Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
 but at least I'll always have the Sam. 

 So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 

 Tim














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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[MCT]

Tim,

I measured the head tube at approx 21.1 cm from top to bottom.

You asked about ride compared to Sam Hillborne.  I rode a Sam until about 
2012ish, so been awhile and feel of the Sam has faded a little.  In my 
opinion, the Roadeo has the standard balanced feel of a Rivendell.  It does 
feel more lively than the sam and I can get going faster.  That is all I 
have in comparison. 

Matt in OKC
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 1:32:30 PM UTC-5 John G. wrote:

> Tim, try bikeinsights.com. You should be able to compare your Sam to a 
> 63cm Roadeo.
>
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 1:59:24 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This gives 
>> me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 
>>
>> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me know 
>> the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the photos you 
>> shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the bars 
>> up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then my 
>> Sam. Thanks!
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>
>>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
>>> longer, but it is what it is. 
>>>
>>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I was 
>>> thinking 853? 
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:

 [image: IMG_5468.jpg]

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just 
> a 
> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I 
> find 
> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
> I'm willing to live with that. 
>
> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>
> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[John G.]

Tim, try bikeinsights.com. You should be able to compare your Sam to a 63cm 
Roadeo.

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 1:59:24 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This gives 
> me something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 
>
> To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me know 
> the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the photos you 
> shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the bars 
> up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then my 
> Sam. Thanks!
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
>> longer, but it is what it is. 
>>
>> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I was 
>> thinking 853? 
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
 some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
 This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
 clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
 x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
 rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I 
 find 
 it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
 I'm willing to live with that. 

 Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
 Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
 but at least I'll always have the Sam. 

 So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 

 Tim














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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Tim Bantham]

Thank you all for sharing and commenting about your Roadeo's. This gives me 
something to go on as I contemplate one for myself. 

To those of you with a 63cm Roadeo (Matt and Austin) can you let me know 
the HT length along with your saddle height as pictured in the photos you 
shared? I'm trying to get a feel for how high I would need to get the bars 
up if I were to ride a bike with a top tube that is less sloped then my 
Sam. Thanks!
On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:

> @Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
> longer, but it is what it is. 
>
> To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I was 
> thinking 853? 
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>>
>> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
>>> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
>>> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
>>> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
>>> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
>>> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
>>> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
>>> I'm willing to live with that. 
>>>
>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>>
>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Calvin Yolo]

@Tim, sure am excited! Don't want to think about the wait being even 
longer, but it is what it is. 

To current owners: What tubing does a Nobilette-built Roadeo use? I was 
thinking 853? 
On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:50:14 PM UTC-7 peterso...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Just before my 1000k ride in June 2021:
>
> [image: IMG_5468.jpg]
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
>> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
>> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
>> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
>> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
>> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
>> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
>> I'm willing to live with that. 
>>
>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a Roadeo. 
>> I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down but at 
>> least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>
>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Austin B.]

My Roadeo is of a similar setup as Bill's--threadless setup, modern 
components, 35mm RH Bon Jon tires. For me it's exactly what I want--fast, 
comfortable, and I don't wince at rough chip seal roads. I did try mounting 
the Barlows on the Roadeo but it was a no-go. Before my Roadeo, I picked up 
a Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross-- after speaking with Mike V a couple 
times I took the plunge on it as my primary road bike and it saw a lot of 
road miles until the Roadeo came into the picture.

Tim commented that he wished the Sam was lighter and had more snap. He's 
right in that the Roadeo definitely has more snap, but functionally is 
different. I also had a 2TT 62cm Sam until last year--like Tim, I was 
always reconfiguring it--I liked it most in full gravel mode with 43mm 
gravel tires, Albastache bars while the BMC stayed my road bike. But I took 
the BMC offroad and realized that the it was the functional equivalent of 
the Sam, AND took larger tires and had canti brakes! And for me, it was a 
little lighter, more spritely, and just more fun so I sold the Sam.

The BMC makes a fine road bike and still sees a share of my road miles, but 
the Roadeo simply does roads better.
 
Austin
  

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:22:02 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> To John G,
> if it were a 62 cm Roadeo (I know, they don't come off the peg in that 
> size) I would still have the Roadeo and John may still have the Atlantis. 
>
> Mike "Rivendell-ess" in SLO CA
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 5:13:09 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide 
>> between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are 
>> 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a 
>> bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This 
>> is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I 
>> am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless 
>> form without having to add to many spacers. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high 
>>> on my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
>>> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
>>> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
>>> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
>>> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At 
>>> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
>>> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
>>> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
>>> that sense my experience mirrors yours. 
>>>
>>> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. 
>>> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently 
>>> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones 
>>> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable 
>>> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride 
>>> it for those purposes. 
>>>
>>> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that 
>>> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would 
>>> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, 
>>> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
>>> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on 
>>> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
>>> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp 
>>> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
>>> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
>>> my other Riv's in overall versatility. 
>>>
>>> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular 
>>> "all road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
>>> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
>>> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. 
>>>
>>> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! 
>>> Although the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom 
>>> builder and talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one 
>>> year out. At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the 
>>> bigger brands out there! 
>>>
>>> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon 
>>> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because 
>>> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Mike Godwin]

To John G,
if it were a 62 cm Roadeo (I know, they don't come off the peg in that 
size) I would still have the Roadeo and John may still have the Atlantis. 

Mike "Rivendell-ess" in SLO CA

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 5:13:09 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide 
> between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are 
> 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a 
> bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This 
> is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I 
> am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless 
> form without having to add to many spacers. 
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on 
>> my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
>> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
>> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
>> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
>> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At 
>> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
>> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
>> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
>> that sense my experience mirrors yours. 
>>
>> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. 
>> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently 
>> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones 
>> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable 
>> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride 
>> it for those purposes. 
>>
>> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that 
>> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would 
>> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, 
>> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
>> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on 
>> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
>> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp 
>> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
>> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
>> my other Riv's in overall versatility. 
>>
>> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all 
>> road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
>> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
>> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. 
>>
>> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! 
>> Although the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom 
>> builder and talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one 
>> year out. At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the 
>> bigger brands out there! 
>>
>> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon 
>> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because 
>> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a 
>>> modern take on components.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>>
 I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
 Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown 
 above.

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:

> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam 
> and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the 
> Atlantis for the Roadeo.
>
> First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
> shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
> example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
> Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
> comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
> intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set 
> for 
> them. 
>
> I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets 
> the most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the 
> Quickbeam: 
> stable, agile when you need it, 

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Bill Lindsay]

My Roadeo is pretty close to what mainstream roadies would call a 
retro-leaning regular ass road bike: a nice 18.5 pound road bike with 32s.  
It's a 2x10 with barcon shifters. At its most stripped down my Hillborne 
may have been a 23 pound bike, and today it's probably more like 26 
pounds.  I'm happy that both bikes are in my stable.  The Hillborne is a 
decent stand in for everything the Roadeo can do.  The Roadeo can only 
stand-in for a subset of what the Hillborne can do.  My Roadeo is pictured 
in the following flickr album

Every bike needs a Campy part | Flickr 


My Roadeo has a threadless steerer, and that is what I prefer for a 
stripped down bike, because it's quite a bit lighter.  I usually end up 
buying custom stems, because there are few choices in true 1" threadless.  
My Roadeo pictured has a custom Nobilette stem on it.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 4:59:07 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on 
> my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At 
> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
> that sense my experience mirrors yours. 
>
> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. 
> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently 
> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones 
> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable 
> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride 
> it for those purposes. 
>
> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that 
> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would 
> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, 
> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on 
> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp 
> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
> my other Riv's in overall versatility. 
>
> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all 
> road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. 
>
> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! Although 
> the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom builder and 
> talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one year out. 
> At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the bigger 
> brands out there! 
>
> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon 
> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because 
> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless. 
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:
>
>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a 
>> modern take on components.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>
>>> I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
>>> Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown above.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>>
 I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam 
 and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the 
 Atlantis for the Roadeo.

 First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
 shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
 example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
 Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
 comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
 intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
 them. 

 I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets 
 the most miles out of all my bikes. 

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Tim Bantham]

@Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide between 
the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are 1.5 cm's 
below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a bit more 
stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This is why I 
am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I am trying 
to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless form without 
having to add to many spacers. 

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on 
> my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At 
> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
> that sense my experience mirrors yours. 
>
> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. 
> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently 
> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones 
> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable 
> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride 
> it for those purposes. 
>
> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that 
> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would 
> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, 
> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on 
> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp 
> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
> my other Riv's in overall versatility. 
>
> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all 
> road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. 
>
> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! Although 
> the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom builder and 
> talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one year out. 
> At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the bigger 
> brands out there! 
>
> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon 
> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because 
> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless. 
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:
>
>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a 
>> modern take on components.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>
>>> I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
>>> Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown above.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>>
 I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam 
 and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the 
 Atlantis for the Roadeo.

 First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
 shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
 example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
 Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
 comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
 intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
 them. 

 I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets 
 the most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: 
 stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at 
 mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which 
 is no knock on the Atlantis.

 I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. 
 Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis 
 felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had 

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Tim Bantham]

John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on 
my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the 
versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a 
Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I 
hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it 
was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At 
the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be 
disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just 
uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in 
that sense my experience mirrors yours. 

Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for. Touring, 
bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently have it set 
up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones Loop bars along 
with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable loaded or unloaded 
on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride it for those 
purposes. 

I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that 
bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would 
ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars, 
Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks 
on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on 
a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use 
Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp 
on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths 
without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines 
my other Riv's in overall versatility. 

I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all 
road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's 
lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was 
lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that. 

@Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!! Although 
the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom builder and 
talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one year out. 
At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the bigger 
brands out there! 

@Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon Jon 
Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because this 
is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless. 

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:

> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a 
> modern take on components.
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
>> Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown above.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>
>>> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam 
>>> and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the 
>>> Atlantis for the Roadeo.
>>>
>>> First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
>>> shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
>>> example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
>>> Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
>>> comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
>>> intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
>>> them. 
>>>
>>> I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets 
>>> the most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: 
>>> stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at 
>>> mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which 
>>> is no knock on the Atlantis.
>>>
>>> I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. 
>>> Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis 
>>> felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had had a 
>>> Roadeo first and then an Atlantis, I never would've sold the Atlantis. But 
>>> I really wanted a Go Fast that fit wide tires and wouldn't beat the crap 
>>> out of me, and the Roadeo is exactly that.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Matt and John, 

 Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts and 
 still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do either 
 of 
 you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? 

 Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube is? 
 I could find that information in the 

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Doug H.]

**Roadeo

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:44:08 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I think Riv offers the option of a threadless fork for the Rodeo. Which do 
> you Rodeo owner's prefer?
> Doug
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:
>
>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a 
>> modern take on components.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>
>>> I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
>>> Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown above.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>>
 I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam 
 and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the 
 Atlantis for the Roadeo.

 First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
 shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
 example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
 Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
 comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
 intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
 them. 

 I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets 
 the most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: 
 stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at 
 mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which 
 is no knock on the Atlantis.

 I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. 
 Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis 
 felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had had a 
 Roadeo first and then an Atlantis, I never would've sold the Atlantis. But 
 I really wanted a Go Fast that fit wide tires and wouldn't beat the crap 
 out of me, and the Roadeo is exactly that.

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks Matt and John, 
>
> Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts and 
> still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do either 
> of 
> you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? 
>
> Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube is? 
> I could find that information in the Geo charts I looked at. 
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote:
>
>> Here's mine! It's a 61cm. I'm open to selling it, complete or 
>> frameset. I'd like to go up to a 63.
>>
>> [image: IMG_4693.JPG]
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> Here you go, sized 63cm.  I changed the saddle, chainrings and the 
>>> fenders are not on right now from this picture, but close enough to the 
>>> current build.  
>>>
>>> Matt in OKC
>>> .
>>> [image: IMG_0257.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. 
 Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road 
 bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. 
 Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no 
 racks 
 and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic 
 road 
 bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless 
 tires 
 and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy 
 going up 
 hill but I'm willing to live with that. 

 Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
 Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit 
 down 
 but at least I'll always have the Sam. 

 So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 

 Tim














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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Doug H.]

I think Riv offers the option of a threadless fork for the Rodeo. Which do 
you Rodeo owner's prefer?
Doug

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:

> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a 
> modern take on components.
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
>> Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown above.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>
>>> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam 
>>> and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the 
>>> Atlantis for the Roadeo.
>>>
>>> First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
>>> shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
>>> example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
>>> Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
>>> comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
>>> intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
>>> them. 
>>>
>>> I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets 
>>> the most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: 
>>> stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at 
>>> mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which 
>>> is no knock on the Atlantis.
>>>
>>> I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. 
>>> Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis 
>>> felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had had a 
>>> Roadeo first and then an Atlantis, I never would've sold the Atlantis. But 
>>> I really wanted a Go Fast that fit wide tires and wouldn't beat the crap 
>>> out of me, and the Roadeo is exactly that.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Matt and John, 

 Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts and 
 still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do either 
 of 
 you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? 

 Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube is? 
 I could find that information in the Geo charts I looked at. 

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote:

> Here's mine! It's a 61cm. I'm open to selling it, complete or 
> frameset. I'd like to go up to a 63.
>
> [image: IMG_4693.JPG]
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Here you go, sized 63cm.  I changed the saddle, chainrings and the 
>> fenders are not on right now from this picture, but close enough to the 
>> current build.  
>>
>> Matt in OKC
>> .
>> [image: IMG_0257.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. 
>>> Like some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road 
>>> bike". This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. 
>>> Shoes and clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no 
>>> racks 
>>> and just a x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic 
>>> road 
>>> bike! It rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless 
>>> tires 
>>> and I find it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going 
>>> up 
>>> hill but I'm willing to live with that. 
>>>
>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit 
>>> down 
>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>>
>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Calvin Yolo]

I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a 
Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown above.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:

> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam and 
> a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the Atlantis 
> for the Roadeo.
>
> First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
> shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
> example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
> Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
> comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
> intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
> them. 
>
> I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets the 
> most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: 
> stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at 
> mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which 
> is no knock on the Atlantis.
>
> I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. 
> Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis 
> felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had had a 
> Roadeo first and then an Atlantis, I never would've sold the Atlantis. But 
> I really wanted a Go Fast that fit wide tires and wouldn't beat the crap 
> out of me, and the Roadeo is exactly that.
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Matt and John, 
>>
>> Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts and 
>> still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do either of 
>> you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? 
>>
>> Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube is? I 
>> could find that information in the Geo charts I looked at. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote:
>>
>>> Here's mine! It's a 61cm. I'm open to selling it, complete or frameset. 
>>> I'd like to go up to a 63.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4693.JPG]
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>>>
 Tim,

 Here you go, sized 63cm.  I changed the saddle, chainrings and the 
 fenders are not on right now from this picture, but close enough to the 
 current build.  

 Matt in OKC
 .
 [image: IMG_0257.jpg]




 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just 
> a 
> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I 
> find 
> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
> I'm willing to live with that. 
>
> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>
> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[John G.]

I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam and a 
Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the Atlantis for 
the Roadeo.

First thing I'll say: Rivendells are incredibly versatile, but you 
shouldn't try to turn a particular Riv into something it is not. For 
example, I foolishly tried to make the Hunq a mountain bike for technical 
Northeast trails. I then hoped the Atlantis would be a speedy but 
comfortable brevet bike. Both bikes are a sensational at what they are 
intended to do, but neither of them was intended for the purpose I set for 
them. 

I love my Roadeo and I plan on always having one in my stable. It gets the 
most miles out of all my bikes. It handles similarly to the Quickbeam: 
stable, agile when you need it, confidence-inspiring, as comfortable at 
mile 100 as mile 1.The Roadeo is a rocket compared to the Atlantis, which 
is no knock on the Atlantis.

I do miss the Atlantis. It was stout, but the handling was...stately. 
Majestic, even. The head badge is utterly appropriate. Riding the Atlantis 
felt like being at the helm of a clipper under full sail. If I had had a 
Roadeo first and then an Atlantis, I never would've sold the Atlantis. But 
I really wanted a Go Fast that fit wide tires and wouldn't beat the crap 
out of me, and the Roadeo is exactly that.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 6:16:49 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks Matt and John, 
>
> Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts and 
> still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do either of 
> you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? 
>
> Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube is? I 
> could find that information in the Geo charts I looked at. 
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote:
>
>> Here's mine! It's a 61cm. I'm open to selling it, complete or frameset. 
>> I'd like to go up to a 63.
>>
>> [image: IMG_4693.JPG]
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> Here you go, sized 63cm.  I changed the saddle, chainrings and the 
>>> fenders are not on right now from this picture, but close enough to the 
>>> current build.  
>>>
>>> Matt in OKC
>>> .
>>> [image: IMG_0257.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
 some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
 This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
 clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
 x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
 rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I 
 find 
 it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
 I'm willing to live with that. 

 Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
 Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
 but at least I'll always have the Sam. 

 So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 

 Tim














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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Tim Bantham]

Thanks Matt and John, 

Both bikes are examples of how they can be built with modern parts and 
still maintain the beautiful look of a lugged steel Rivendell. Do either of 
you own other RIVs? If so, how does the ride compare? 

Matt, your bike is my size. Can you tell me how long the head tube is? I 
could find that information in the Geo charts I looked at. 

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-4 John G. wrote:

> Here's mine! It's a 61cm. I'm open to selling it, complete or frameset. 
> I'd like to go up to a 63.
>
> [image: IMG_4693.JPG]
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Here you go, sized 63cm.  I changed the saddle, chainrings and the 
>> fenders are not on right now from this picture, but close enough to the 
>> current build.  
>>
>> Matt in OKC
>> .
>> [image: IMG_0257.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
>>> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
>>> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
>>> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
>>> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
>>> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
>>> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
>>> I'm willing to live with that. 
>>>
>>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a 
>>> Roadeo. I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down 
>>> but at least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>>
>>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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