Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
Aha! Just possibly might fit, tho' a 125 mm spindle might be better. Thanks. Patrick Moore iPhone > On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:25 PM, rcnute wrote: > > Amended answer, 150mm. > > Ryan > >> On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:06:33 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: >> Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or >> so spacer on the drive side. Whatever it is it was an improvement for me >> for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some >> reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay). >> >> Ryan >> >>> On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? I >>> wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with >>> the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main >>> cruising gear.) >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Patrick "if narrow is good, narrower is better" Moore (who doesn't really >>> believe that). >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer wrote: "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >>> Other professional writing services. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
Amended answer, 150mm. Ryan On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:06:33 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: > > Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or > so spacer on the drive side. Whatever it is it was an improvement for me > for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some > reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay). > > Ryan > > On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? >> I wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with >> the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main >> cruising gear.) >> >> Thanks. >> >> Patrick "if narrow is good, narrower is better" Moore (who doesn't really >> believe that). >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer wrote: >> >>> "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." >>> >>> That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 >>> bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able >>> to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. >>> David >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
Thanks, Ryan. It looks as if that would be too narrow a setup for the Fargo's wide stays (even though they are indented). The chainstay-to-chainstay distance (measuring from the outside of each) is slightly more than 120 mm; add (2) 12.5-15-mm-thick crankarms and another 5 mm gap per side, and you are up to a minimum - well, as close as makes no difference to what I've got now, which is just a bit more than160 mm -- I could use a 110 mm spindle, I suppose but the Q saving would not be worth the hassle or expense. Oh well, the wide Q is annoying only for the first 1/2 mile or so. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, rcnute wrote: > Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or > so spacer on the drive side. Whatever it is it was an improvement for me > for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some > reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay). > > Ryan > > On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? >> I wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with >> the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main >> cruising gear.) >> >> Thanks. >> >> Patrick "if narrow is good, narrower is better" Moore (who doesn't really >> believe that). >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer wrote: >> >>> "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." >>> >>> That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 >>> bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able >>> to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. >>> David >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
Around 1998, Grant set me up with a Sugino AT and a 115 spindle for use as a single (remember when Riv used to sell cool old NOS parts?). I believe I used a 3mm spacer to get clearance where the chainring bolts mount. This was for use with a 126mm rear hub. I'm not sure if a modern 130/135mm spacing would need a little more clearance at the crank. On Friday, April 4, 2014 4:14:33 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote: > > "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." > > That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom > bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to > setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. > David > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or so spacer on the drive side. Whatever it is it was an improvement for me for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay). Ryan On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? I > wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with > the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main > cruising gear.) > > Thanks. > > Patrick "if narrow is good, narrower is better" Moore (who doesn't really > believe that). > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer > > wrote: > >> "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." >> >> That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom >> bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to >> setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. >> David >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? I wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main cruising gear.) Thanks. Patrick "if narrow is good, narrower is better" Moore (who doesn't really believe that). On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer wrote: > "Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." > > That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom > bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to > setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. > David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
"Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside." That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
110 spindle with 135 rear spacing/hub and ring on inside for me. (Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.) Ryan On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:55:09 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote: > > Howdy! > Figured some folks here might have an answer from direct experience with > this... > I have Sugino XD cranks, that I want to use with a single 42t chainring > that'll be going on my Redwood. > What bottom bracket width would I use if... > 42t chainring is in the outer position; OR > 42t chainring is in the middle position with a guard on the outer position > > I'll give Riv a ring if I can't find a suitable answer, but figured a > buncha people here might be able to help me. > Thanks, > David > Chicago > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.
On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:55:09 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote: > > What bottom bracket width would I use if... > 42t chainring is in the outer position; OR > 42t chainring is in the middle position with a guard on the outer position > > I've used the XD as a double and triple with a 110 spindle. With a single ring on the outer, I imagine you could use a 107 if you're aim is to get it as narrow as possible. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
