[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Laws to protect cyclists are great, but what good are laws if they are not enforced? I live in southwest Virginia. Here is a sample of my commute to work, about exactly 1 year ago. http://youtu.be/R0yp4zrb3QY Not only is this illegal, but I consider it to be harassment. This is not the only time I have been harassed by law enforcement, but it is the only one I have evidence of. I did report this to his superiors and was assured it would be taken care of. No idea what happened, because it was a personnel issue. I have been hit twice by motorists in hit and runs, one reported to the Virginia State Police, and the other reported to the Bristol Virginia Police. Each officer politely took my report, but not only were no charges filed, they never even attempted to contact the drivers much less charge them. Reminds me of the quote by Aaron Levenstein: “Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” As one who spectated, in first person, non-enforcement of a broken law when police responded to where I was hit by a motorist, I feel the same about legislated morality. Bureaucracy attempts to create outcomes among the otherwise disinterested or uninspired. These are individual attributes that reflect well on larger populations when enough project them. It is a failure by generalization to not expect the exception, a remnant habit from when situational awareness and Mazlov's hierarchy framed my daily to-do list. Drivers don't avoid bicyclists because there are laws that say you'll get in trouble. It is a pop quiz for the individual at the wheel, a brief one question test that will demonstrate either their humanity, awareness and necessity to express concern for another or the validation of their step onto a slippery slope leading away from all that is good. I like to think that for my years and miles of cycling, the places it has taken me and the people I have met, that my personal statistical result is that more people are good, right and just versus otherwise. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:13:59 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. Reminds me of the quote by Aaron Levenstein: “Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” As one who spectated, in first person, non-enforcement of a broken law when police responded to where I was hit by a motorist, I feel the same about legislated morality. Bureaucracy attempts to create outcomes among the otherwise disinterested or uninspired. These are individual attributes that reflect well on larger populations when enough project them. It is a failure by generalization to not expect the exception, a remnant habit from when situational awareness and Mazlov's hierarchy framed my daily to-do list. Drivers don't avoid bicyclists because there are laws that say you'll get in trouble. It is a pop quiz for the individual at the wheel, a brief one question test that will demonstrate either their humanity, awareness and necessity to express concern for another or the validation of their step onto a slippery slope leading away from all that is good. I like to think that for my years and miles of cycling, the places it has taken me and the people I have met, that my personal statistical result is that more people are good, right and just versus otherwise. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:13:59 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
I can tell you it's safer to ride in downtown San Antonio than it is close to my house in the countryside (nee, far burbs). Bikes queue with the cars downtown, and some drivers go wild passing on blind twisties in the country. (I signal drivers when it's safe or not safe to pass, and pull over if they don't pass.) While I don't know of anyone being killed on my creek-bottom road, there is a bike death every year downtown. That's all about statistics. I hope not to be the one that catches up out here. On Saturday, March 8, 2014 6:00:18 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. Reminds me of the quote by Aaron Levenstein: “Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” As one who spectated, in first person, non-enforcement of a broken law when police responded to where I was hit by a motorist, I feel the same about legislated morality. Bureaucracy attempts to create outcomes among the otherwise disinterested or uninspired. These are individual attributes that reflect well on larger populations when enough project them. It is a failure by generalization to not expect the exception, a remnant habit from when situational awareness and Mazlov's hierarchy framed my daily to-do list. Drivers don't avoid bicyclists because there are laws that say you'll get in trouble. It is a pop quiz for the individual at the wheel, a brief one question test that will demonstrate either their humanity, awareness and necessity to express concern for another or the validation of their step onto a slippery slope leading away from all that is good. I like to think that for my years and miles of cycling, the places it has taken me and the people I have met, that my personal statistical result is that more people are good, right and just versus otherwise. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:13:59 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
ps - about statics, I lost two uncles to rural traffic in the deep south (w. TN) - one was a pedestrian On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:03:07 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I can tell you it's safer to ride in downtown San Antonio than it is close to my house in the countryside (nee, far burbs). Bikes queue with the cars downtown, and some drivers go wild passing on blind twisties in the country. (I signal drivers when it's safe or not safe to pass, and pull over if they don't pass.) While I don't know of anyone being killed on my creek-bottom road, there is a bike death every year downtown. That's all about statistics. I hope not to be the one that catches up out here. On Saturday, March 8, 2014 6:00:18 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. Reminds me of the quote by Aaron Levenstein: “Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” As one who spectated, in first person, non-enforcement of a broken law when police responded to where I was hit by a motorist, I feel the same about legislated morality. Bureaucracy attempts to create outcomes among the otherwise disinterested or uninspired. These are individual attributes that reflect well on larger populations when enough project them. It is a failure by generalization to not expect the exception, a remnant habit from when situational awareness and Mazlov's hierarchy framed my daily to-do list. Drivers don't avoid bicyclists because there are laws that say you'll get in trouble. It is a pop quiz for the individual at the wheel, a brief one question test that will demonstrate either their humanity, awareness and necessity to express concern for another or the validation of their step onto a slippery slope leading away from all that is good. I like to think that for my years and miles of cycling, the places it has taken me and the people I have met, that my personal statistical result is that more people are good, right and just versus otherwise. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:13:59 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Garth, with all due respect, I think you're confusing this with the New Age Gibberish group. :/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Andy,* more people are good, right and just versus otherwise - *though they outnumber otherwise 10,000 to one, they are not the worry. On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:42:17 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: ps - about statics, I lost two uncles to rural traffic in the deep south (w. TN) - one was a pedestrian On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:03:07 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I can tell you it's safer to ride in downtown San Antonio than it is close to my house in the countryside (nee, far burbs). Bikes queue with the cars downtown, and some drivers go wild passing on blind twisties in the country. (I signal drivers when it's safe or not safe to pass, and pull over if they don't pass.) While I don't know of anyone being killed on my creek-bottom road, there is a bike death every year downtown. That's all about statistics. I hope not to be the one that catches up out here. On Saturday, March 8, 2014 6:00:18 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. Reminds me of the quote by Aaron Levenstein: “Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” As one who spectated, in first person, non-enforcement of a broken law when police responded to where I was hit by a motorist, I feel the same about legislated morality. Bureaucracy attempts to create outcomes among the otherwise disinterested or uninspired. These are individual attributes that reflect well on larger populations when enough project them. It is a failure by generalization to not expect the exception, a remnant habit from when situational awareness and Mazlov's hierarchy framed my daily to-do list. Drivers don't avoid bicyclists because there are laws that say you'll get in trouble. It is a pop quiz for the individual at the wheel, a brief one question test that will demonstrate either their humanity, awareness and necessity to express concern for another or the validation of their step onto a slippery slope leading away from all that is good. I like to think that for my years and miles of cycling, the places it has taken me and the people I have met, that my personal statistical result is that more people are good, right and just versus otherwise. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:13:59 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Oh wow, you must be reading Sandman as well! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/12939698003/in/photostream/ Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Laws are an objective experience of subjectively expressing reason for what appears unreasonable, one's very own imagination and one's relationship within . Expressing one's own inner conflicts. This does not mean Laws are good or bad, they are to whom they are in whom they are chosen to experience. All of my conflicts, all of your conflicts , all of anyone's conflicts, are within themselves. . . .played out from without as each other. But it is within. On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:17:08 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: Well then why are there any laws? Gotta start with a base level of behavior for everyone. On Mar 7, 2014 7:14 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Was able to read at home. Thanks for sending it. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:35 AM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Eunice. It's partially blocked here at work, so I'll have to read at home. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/braving-the-deep-deadly-south-on-a-bicycle/284293/ On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:02:35 AM UTC-8, Eunice Chang wrote: FYI- because it briefly mentions Seth Vidal, formerly on the RBW-owners list. -Eunice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
I was a little surprised at the article. I lived in the Greenville/Spartenburg area during the early '90's and can't say anything good, bad or indifferent about cycling safety in the area. I rode frequently in town and in the surrounding foothills and the only remarkable memory is the oppressive humidity and beautiful scenery. Marc On Friday, March 7, 2014 2:02:35 PM UTC-5, Eunice Chang wrote: FYI- because it briefly mentions Seth Vidal, formerly on the RBW-owners list. -Eunice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Marc, I spent a couple of weeks in Greenville since last fall. Notably there are good bike routes - beautiful country - and quite a few bike commuters there. But I did note drivers on Woodruff can be quite aggressive. Back to suburbs. The most dangerous areas are the shopping zones, because drivers have their minds on their errands. On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:13:13 AM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote: I was a little surprised at the article. I lived in the Greenville/Spartenburg area during the early '90's and can't say anything good, bad or indifferent about cycling safety in the area. I rode frequently in town and in the surrounding foothills and the only remarkable memory is the oppressive humidity and beautiful scenery. Marc On Friday, March 7, 2014 2:02:35 PM UTC-5, Eunice Chang wrote: FYI- because it briefly mentions Seth Vidal, formerly on the RBW-owners list. -Eunice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Hmmm, what you express KTY is non-sensical to me. So that makes my Gibberish from your perspective, and your non-senical comment the same NonSense . If my prior comment was too far out for you to understand, I'll make it real simple : *To each their own* . On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:44:41 AM UTC-5, KTY wrote: Garth, with all due respect, I think you're confusing this with the New Age Gibberish group. :/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Delight is a wonderful Word Patrick ! Life as Mortal Man is the Delight of the Eternal Flame that I AM ! On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:57:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning ... Dr. Johnson, of John Dryden (so you are in good company). On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Laws are an objective experience of subjectively expressing reason for what appears unreasonable, one's very own imagination and one's relationship within . Expressing one's own inner conflicts. This does not mean Laws are good or bad, they are to whom they are in whom they are chosen to experience. All of my conflicts, all of your conflicts , all of anyone's conflicts, are within themselves. . . .played out from without as each other. But it is within. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Patrick Moore iPhone On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: If my prior comment was too far out for you to understand, I'll make it real simple : To each their own . On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:44:41 AM UTC-5, KTY wrote: Garth, with all due respect, I think you're confusing this with the New Age Gibberish group. :/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
I like your sense of humor! Patrick Moore iPhone On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Delight is a wonderful Word Patrick ! Life as Mortal Man is the Delight of the Eternal Flame that I AM ! On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:57:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning ... Dr. Johnson, of John Dryden (so you are in good company). On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: Laws are an objective experience of subjectively expressing reason for what appears unreasonable, one's very own imagination and one's relationship within . Expressing one's own inner conflicts. This does not mean Laws are good or bad, they are to whom they are in whom they are chosen to experience. All of my conflicts, all of your conflicts , all of anyone's conflicts, are within themselves. . . .played out from without as each other. But it is within. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Thank you Eunice. It's partially blocked here at work, so I'll have to read at home. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/braving-the-deep-deadly-south-on-a-bicycle/284293/ On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:02:35 AM UTC-8, Eunice Chang wrote: FYI- because it briefly mentions Seth Vidal, formerly on the RBW-owners list. -Eunice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Interesting article nonetheless. I grew up in Louisiana and spent several years in Baton Rouge. My parents still live in southern Louisiana. Everytime they ask if I plan on moving back home (from California), my first thought is...there is nowhere to bike. Louisiana is particularly bad as there is so much water down there, the roads are literally cutting through swamps and marshes with little or no shoulder. No way. Other states like Tennessee and northern Alabama are much better. I am curious if there are people on this board that live in Louisiana or Mississippi and bike a lot, and if so what are some routes and areas they like to go. There is another whole issue of flat = boring, but that is just me. On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:02:35 AM UTC-8, Eunice Chang wrote: FYI- because it briefly mentions Seth Vidal, formerly on the RBW-owners list. -Eunice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Well then why are there any laws? Gotta start with a base level of behavior for everyone. On Mar 7, 2014 7:14 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
Laws are an objective experience of subjectively expressing reason for what appears unreasonable, one's very own imagination and one's relationship within . Expressing one's own inner conflicts. This does not mean Laws are good or bad, they are to whom they are in whom they are chosen to experience. All of my conflicts, all of your conflicts , all of anyone's conflicts, are within themselves. . . .played out from without as each other. But it is within. On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:17:08 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: Well then why are there any laws? Gotta start with a base level of behavior for everyone. On Mar 7, 2014 7:14 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: To me, I take all statistics with a grain of salt . Every bit of tests/data is based upon a certain set of subjective parameters , which in turn fullfill themselves objectively. All Subjective truth fulfills itself objectively. All the paths or legislation in the world will not make cycling safe , or even saf-er (compared to who's definition ?), as there are infinite subjective things fulfilling themselves objectively within each person when you really think about it, the orchestration of the World *as each person experiences it* (no two alike) is absolutely Awe-Inspiring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Atlantic article about cycling in the south
He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning ... Dr. Johnson, of John Dryden (so you are in good company). On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Laws are an objective experience of subjectively expressing reason for what appears unreasonable, one's very own imagination and one's relationship within . Expressing one's own inner conflicts. This does not mean Laws are good or bad, they are to whom they are in whom they are chosen to experience. All of my conflicts, all of your conflicts , all of anyone's conflicts, are within themselves. . . .played out from without as each other. But it is within. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
