[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Tom Harrop]

Cool, too small for me though. The Redwood is from before the long reach 
Tektro brake era of Rivs, so it would have limited tyre clearance (by 
current Riv standards), right?

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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bill Lindsay]

Right.  A Redwood is essentially a Largish sized, budget Rambouillet.  

On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:26:32 PM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
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> Cool, too small for me though. The Redwood is from before the long reach 
> Tektro brake era of Rivs, so it would have limited tyre clearance (by 
> current Riv standards), right?
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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Michael]

>
> That is the deal of the year for a complete Rivendell bike.
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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Michael]

>
> That is the deal of the year for a complete Rivendell bike.
>
 
I have never seen a complete 'dell for such a low price. That is almost 
Clist, '80's steel beater bikes price range.

If I was that size, I'd be thinking about buying it just because the price 
is so low.

Based on the description, there is nothing wrong with it, so why not?

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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Kieran J]

I was bidding on a 65cm Redwood frameset a year or two ago, and the bidding 
went to the mid-700's.
I wouldn't be surprised if the price on this complete one goes up a ways.

KJ



On Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:55:56 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> That is the deal of the year for a complete Rivendell bike.
>>
>  
> I have never seen a complete 'dell for such a low price. That is almost 
> Clist, '80's steel beater bikes price range.
>
> If I was that size, I'd be thinking about buying it just because the price 
> is so low.
>
> Based on the description, there is nothing wrong with it, so why not?
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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bill Lindsay]

.and it sold for just under $1000.  That's pretty fair for both the 
buyer and the seller, I'd think.  Buyer gets a whole bike for something 
like $1500 new, rides it for several years and gets more than half his 
money back.  Good deal for him.  Meanwhile, a modestly equipped Rivendell 
road bike climbed to ~$2200 in price so the buyer got a decent deal as 
well.  

On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:00:41 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> Not mine, but it's in Connecticut, so we have lots of listers who could 
> scope it out for you:
>
> ebay Redwood in 
> GREEN
>

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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[David Banzer]

Unfortunately it didn't go to me. I happened to be in a meeting, and was 
outbid and forgot to raise my max bid. Oh well. Since I did justify money 
for a new bike, I guess I'm on the hunt now.
David
Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bruce Herbitter]

It fits a 37 mm tire which isn't too shabby.
On 2/22/2014 2:55 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Right.  A Redwood is essentially a Largish sized, budget Rambouillet.

On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:26:32 PM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:

Cool, too small for me though. The Redwood is from before the long
reach Tektro brake era of Rivs, so it would have limited tyre
clearance (by current Riv standards), right?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[cyclotourist]

A large-sized Romulus.

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Right.  A Redwood is essentially a Largish sized, budget Rambouillet.
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:26:32 PM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote:
>>
>> Cool, too small for me though. The Redwood is from before the long reach
>> Tektro brake era of Rivs, so it would have limited tyre clearance (by
>> current Riv standards), right?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[JL]

The price isn't actually finalized yet. it has three days left and has a bid of 
$500 plus $125 shipping (which is actually pretty accurately priced for ups).  
Did this bike just have a low starting price or was there a buy it now option 
that someone negated by bidding? 

Jason
SF,CA

On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael  wrote:

>> That is the deal of the year for a complete Rivendell bike.
>  
> I have never seen a complete 'dell for such a low price. That is almost 
> Clist, '80's steel beater bikes price range.
> 
> If I was that size, I'd be thinking about buying it just because the price is 
> so low.
> 
> Based on the description, there is nothing wrong with it, so why not?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[David Banzer]

Anyone have a Redwood that can confirm it'll fit a 37mm tire? I know it's a 
larger Romulus, just seeing if anyone's riding a Redwood and could let me 
know max tire size and with which brake. I would imagine centerpulls or 
Silvers would allow a slightly larger tire than the Shimano long reach.
Thanks,
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[James Warren]

David,If you find out it does fit, don't forget the following: that wide tire probably won't clear the stock brakes (even in quick release mode) for easy wheel removal.On my Ram with 700x33 Jack Browns and Ultegra standard reach brakes, I wouldn't be able to remove wheels without deflation if not for the following simple mods I made:1) I got Tektro brake levers with their QR button on the lever itself. When I remove a wheel, I release the brake in two places: on the brake caliper and at the brake lever. But even that isn't quite enough, so...2) I have the brake adjusted for riding with the barrel adjuster screw all the way up.So when I take off the front wheel, I do three easy things: I engage QR1. I engage QR2. I screw the barrel adjuster screw all the way down. The tire then clears the opened up brakes.I don't find any of that a PITA, and the ride of the Jack Brown Green makes it all worth it.The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension as the brakes I use in the ritual I just described. And if its brake levers are the stock Tiagras, there will be no QR on the lever itself.-Jim W.-Original Message-
From: David Banzer 
Sent: Feb 25, 2014 11:34 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

Anyone have a Redwood that can confirm it'll fit a 37mm tire? I know it's a larger Romulus, just seeing if anyone's riding a Redwood and could let me know max tire size and with which brake. I would imagine centerpulls or Silvers would allow a slightly larger tire than the Shimano long reach.Thanks,David



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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bruce Herbitter]

This is how my Ram is. I deflate the tires1/2 way  to take off or 
install the wheel. Not really a pain, and I'm too lazy to do something 
about it, like wider mouth brakes...



On 2/26/2014 10:28 AM, James Warren wrote:


The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension as the 
brakes I use in the ritual I just described. And if its brake levers 
are the stock Tiagras, there will be no QR on the lever itself.


-Jim W.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[James Warren]

The added benefit of dealing with it through Tektro levers (which are reasonably priced) is not just that you get the extra QR button, but also the hand position on drop bars is improved significantly for me when I use Tektros in comparison to Tiagras. For some reason, I think they look better too. (But I think that is just my aesthetic taste being biased by knowledge of how they feel.)-Original Message-
From: Bruce Herbitter 
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay


  

  
  
This is how my Ram is. I deflate the tires1/2 way  to take off or
install the wheel. Not really a pain, and I'm too lazy to do
something about it, like wider mouth brakes...

  
  On 2/26/2014 10:28 AM, James Warren wrote:


  
The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension
as the brakes I use in the ritual I just described. And if
its brake levers are the stock Tiagras, there will be no QR
on the lever itself.

-Jim W.


  




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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[David Banzer]

Besides getting the wheel out, is there room for a larger tire than the 
JBs? If brakes were swapped to centerpulls or the Silvers, would there be 
more room?
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:47:31 AM UTC-6, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> The added benefit of dealing with it through Tektro levers (which are 
> reasonably priced) is not just that you get the extra QR button, but also 
> the hand position on drop bars is improved significantly for me when I use 
> Tektros in comparison to Tiagras. For some reason, I think they look better 
> too. (But I think that is just my aesthetic taste being biased by knowledge 
> of how they feel.)
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Bruce Herbitter 
> Sent: Feb 26, 2014 8:32 AM 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay 
>
> This is how my Ram is. I deflate the tires1/2 way  to take off or install 
> the wheel. Not really a pain, and I'm too lazy to do something about it, 
> like wider mouth brakes...
>
>
> On 2/26/2014 10:28 AM, James Warren wrote:
>  
>
> The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension as the brakes 
> I use in the ritual I just described. And if its brake levers are the stock 
> Tiagras, there will be no QR on the lever itself.
>
> -Jim W.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[David Banzer]

What size tires would fit on the Ram?


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Bruce Herbitter  wrote:

>  This is how my Ram is. I deflate the tires1/2 way  to take off or install
> the wheel. Not really a pain, and I'm too lazy to do something about it,
> like wider mouth brakes...
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2014 10:28 AM, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension as the brakes
> I use in the ritual I just described. And if its brake levers are the stock
> Tiagras, there will be no QR on the lever itself.
>
> -Jim W.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Steve Palincsar]

28mm with fenders but possibly with brake pad issues removing wheels. At least 
that was my experience.

David Banzer  wrote:

>What size tires would fit on the Ram?
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Bruce Herbitter
>> wrote:
>
>>  This is how my Ram is. I deflate the tires1/2 way  to take off or
>install
>> the wheel. Not really a pain, and I'm too lazy to do something about
>it,
>> like wider mouth brakes...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/26/2014 10:28 AM, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension as the
>brakes
>> I use in the ritual I just described. And if its brake levers are the
>stock
>> Tiagras, there will be no QR on the lever itself.
>>
>> -Jim W.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Tim Gavin]

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html

The Rambouillet fits up to 700x38mm tires, according to the flyer.  The
Redwood flyer also claims 700x38 clearance:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/redflyer/index.html

Silver brakes and 750 centerpulls will have too long of reach (55-73mm) to
be compatible with a Riv Red/Rom/Ram. (I have a red Riv Road).  Red rum?

Tektro 539 brakes are the most common current "standard reach" (47-57mm)
brakes for these bikes, and they're what Riv sells.  They have pretty good
fender/tire clearance.  I don't know if they open any wider than the stock
Shimano brakes.

One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads.

Tim




On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:58 AM, David Banzer  wrote:

> What size tires would fit on the Ram?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Bruce Herbitter <
> bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  This is how my Ram is. I deflate the tires1/2 way  to take off or
>> install the wheel. Not really a pain, and I'm too lazy to do something
>> about it, like wider mouth brakes...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/26/2014 10:28 AM, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> The Redwood on ebay comes with brakes of the same dimension as the brakes
>> I use in the ritual I just described. And if its brake levers are the stock
>> Tiagras, there will be no QR on the lever itself.
>>
>> -Jim W.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Tim Gavin]

Thin-lines do increase opening width of calipers in one (common) scenario:
the back of the pads hit the fork legs/seat stays, preventing any further
opening.  Thin lines delay that limit a bit, and aren't as thick, so they
block the egress of the fat tire less.

Think about it this way:  a door knob hit the wall when the door is fully
open.  If you change that door knob for one that stuck out less from the
door, the door would open more widely.  Plus, the inside doorknob wouldn't
catch on your hip as easily when you walk through.

If you have ample fork/stay clearance, than what you said is true, Bill.
Most Rivendells have ample fork/stay clearance, but the early ones had less
than current ones.  Then, you're limited only by the opening width of the
brake, something unique to sidepull brakes.

I agree that centerpulls would open completely; Paul Racer Medium's would
be a great fit for this bike.  I didn't realize that Dia Compe 610s were in
production again, but it looks like Gran Compe level ones are available at
VO.  Purdy!

Tim


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> "One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads."
>
> I respectfully disagree with this.  It is true that if your brakes are
> adjusted for "thick" brakepads and then you just replace your thick
> brakepads with Koolstop Thinlines, that the brakes will open wider BUT
> ... your brakes will no longer be adjusted.  They'll be way too loose.
>  Readjust the brakes for the thinner pads and now you are right back where
> you started, not able to open wide enough to get your tire out.
>
> I'm running 700x35 Paselas on the Windsor.  They measure a true 36mm on my
> widish rims (in fact they measure wider than my 700x38 C-Lines, so weird!).
>  Anyway, I have an old DiaCompe 610 in front.  I have a QR on my cable
> hanger, and then I use that slack to disengage the straddle cable.  That
> way I can get the front wheel out without deflating.
>
> I think the modern Dia Compe 610 brakes or the Paul Racer M's would be
> very smart on a Redwood.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:35:09 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html
>>
>> The Rambouillet fits up to 700x38mm tires, according to the flyer.  The
>> Redwood flyer also claims 700x38 clearance:
>>
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/redflyer/index.html
>>
>> Silver brakes and 750 centerpulls will have too long of reach (55-73mm)
>> to be compatible with a Riv Red/Rom/Ram. (I have a red Riv Road).  Red rum?
>>
>> Tektro 539 brakes are the most common current "standard reach" (47-57mm)
>> brakes for these bikes, and they're what Riv sells.  They have pretty good
>> fender/tire clearance.  I don't know if they open any wider than the stock
>> Shimano brakes.
>>
>> One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bill Lindsay]

"One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads."

I respectfully disagree with this.  It is true that if your brakes are 
adjusted for "thick" brakepads and then you just replace your thick 
brakepads with Koolstop Thinlines, that the brakes will open wider BUT 
... your brakes will no longer be adjusted.  They'll be way too loose. 
 Readjust the brakes for the thinner pads and now you are right back where 
you started, not able to open wide enough to get your tire out.  

I'm running 700x35 Paselas on the Windsor.  They measure a true 36mm on my 
widish rims (in fact they measure wider than my 700x38 C-Lines, so weird!). 
 Anyway, I have an old DiaCompe 610 in front.  I have a QR on my cable 
hanger, and then I use that slack to disengage the straddle cable.  That 
way I can get the front wheel out without deflating.  

I think the modern Dia Compe 610 brakes or the Paul Racer M's would be very 
smart on a Redwood.  


On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:35:09 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html
>
> The Rambouillet fits up to 700x38mm tires, according to the flyer.  The 
> Redwood flyer also claims 700x38 clearance:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/redflyer/index.html
>
> Silver brakes and 750 centerpulls will have too long of reach (55-73mm) to 
> be compatible with a Riv Red/Rom/Ram. (I have a red Riv Road).  Red rum?
>  
> Tektro 539 brakes are the most common current "standard reach" (47-57mm) 
> brakes for these bikes, and they're what Riv sells.  They have pretty good 
> fender/tire clearance.  I don't know if they open any wider than the stock 
> Shimano brakes.
>
> One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bill Lindsay]

OK, I see the scenario you are after, and I really like the doorknob 
analogy.  But, the doorknob scenario you describe is common for cantilever 
brakes, but not sidepull brakes.  Sidepull brakes practically never have 
their brakepads hit the chainstays or the fork blades when you try to QR 
them open.  Look at the profile photo of every bike on rivbike.com.  All of 
them clearly show the brakepads clear the stays and the fork blades.  The 
only way they could or would hit is if the owner deliberately put a lot 
longer than normal brake pad on those brakes.  Cantilever brakes usually 
come with really long v-brake style pads and do hit the stays.  For those 
bikes, thinner ones like the Thinlines or shorter ones will allow the 
cantilever brakes to open up more.  

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:51:52 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Thin-lines do increase opening width of calipers in one (common) 
> scenario:  the back of the pads hit the fork legs/seat stays, preventing 
> any further opening.  Thin lines delay that limit a bit, and aren't as 
> thick, so they block the egress of the fat tire less.  
>
> Think about it this way:  a door knob hit the wall when the door is fully 
> open.  If you change that door knob for one that stuck out less from the 
> door, the door would open more widely.  Plus, the inside doorknob wouldn't 
> catch on your hip as easily when you walk through.
>
> If you have ample fork/stay clearance, than what you said is true, Bill.  
> Most Rivendells have ample fork/stay clearance, but the early ones had less 
> than current ones.  Then, you're limited only by the opening width of the 
> brake, something unique to sidepull brakes.
>
> I agree that centerpulls would open completely; Paul Racer Medium's would 
> be a great fit for this bike.  I didn't realize that Dia Compe 610s were in 
> production again, but it looks like Gran Compe level ones are available at 
> VO.  Purdy!
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Bill Lindsay 
> > wrote:
>
>> "One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads."
>>
>> I respectfully disagree with this.  It is true that if your brakes are 
>> adjusted for "thick" brakepads and then you just replace your thick 
>> brakepads with Koolstop Thinlines, that the brakes will open wider BUT 
>> ... your brakes will no longer be adjusted.  They'll be way too loose. 
>>  Readjust the brakes for the thinner pads and now you are right back where 
>> you started, not able to open wide enough to get your tire out.  
>>
>> I'm running 700x35 Paselas on the Windsor.  They measure a true 36mm on 
>> my widish rims (in fact they measure wider than my 700x38 C-Lines, so 
>> weird!).  Anyway, I have an old DiaCompe 610 in front.  I have a QR on my 
>> cable hanger, and then I use that slack to disengage the straddle cable. 
>>  That way I can get the front wheel out without deflating.  
>>
>> I think the modern Dia Compe 610 brakes or the Paul Racer M's would be 
>> very smart on a Redwood.  
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:35:09 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html
>>>
>>> The Rambouillet fits up to 700x38mm tires, according to the flyer.  The 
>>> Redwood flyer also claims 700x38 clearance:
>>>
>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/redflyer/index.html
>>>
>>> Silver brakes and 750 centerpulls will have too long of reach (55-73mm) 
>>> to be compatible with a Riv Red/Rom/Ram. (I have a red Riv Road).  Red rum?
>>>  
>>> Tektro 539 brakes are the most common current "standard reach" (47-57mm) 
>>> brakes for these bikes, and they're what Riv sells.  They have pretty good 
>>> fender/tire clearance.  I don't know if they open any wider than the stock 
>>> Shimano brakes.
>>>
>>> One way to get brakes to open wider:  use Kool-stop "Thinline" pads.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Tim Gavin]

I guess I spend a lot of time on bikes with Silver/Tektro R559 brakes on
skinny forks (short reach-to-650B conversions), where I do have that
problem.  Again proving that a bike designed with the proper clearance is
best.

:)

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Bill Lindsay]

and the stock brakepads of the R559 brakes hit the insides of the fork 
blades?  That's wild.  Share a picture if you get the chance.  For all the 
Tektro sidepulls I've set up (559s on 4 different bikes, 538s on 2 bikes), 
the brakepads didn't reach that far back to get in between the fork blades. 
 Did you decide not to use the two spacers that the brakes came with?  Did 
you swap the brakepads for extra long v-brake pads?  Are they straight 
blade forks?  Set up 'normally', the entire brake and both brake pads 
should be entirely in front of the fork blades.  No matter how skinny the 
clearance at the fork blades is, the brake pads shouldn't be in there.  

Sorry for taking this thread on a tangent, but now my interest is piqued. 
 Ha ha.  

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:30:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I guess I spend a lot of time on bikes with Silver/Tektro R559 brakes on 
> skinny forks (short reach-to-650B conversions), where I do have that 
> problem.  Again proving that a bike designed with the proper clearance is 
> best.  
>
> :)
>
> Tim
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Tim Gavin]

Bill, you're totally correct.  I must have been thinking about my
canti-equipped bikes.

This shows I need to spend less time chatting about bikes, and more time
riding or wrenching on them!  Stupid winter.  The high is 3 F today.  :(

Tim


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> and the stock brakepads of the R559 brakes hit the insides of the fork
> blades?  That's wild.  Share a picture if you get the chance.  For all the
> Tektro sidepulls I've set up (559s on 4 different bikes, 538s on 2 bikes),
> the brakepads didn't reach that far back to get in between the fork blades.
>  Did you decide not to use the two spacers that the brakes came with?  Did
> you swap the brakepads for extra long v-brake pads?  Are they straight
> blade forks?  Set up 'normally', the entire brake and both brake pads
> should be entirely in front of the fork blades.  No matter how skinny the
> clearance at the fork blades is, the brake pads shouldn't be in there.
>
> Sorry for taking this thread on a tangent, but now my interest is piqued.
>  Ha ha.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:30:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I guess I spend a lot of time on bikes with Silver/Tektro R559 brakes on
>> skinny forks (short reach-to-650B conversions), where I do have that
>> problem.  Again proving that a bike designed with the proper clearance is
>> best.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[James Warren]

Probably 10 years old actually. Those came out in 2003. How do I know that? 
That's the year I bought my Ram frame and the big internal debate was Ram frame 
or Redwood complete. Both were ready to ship in April of '03.

I think new Redwoods were offered by Riv for 2 only years or less.



On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> .and it sold for just under $1000.  That's pretty fair for both the buyer 
> and the seller, I'd think.  Buyer gets a whole bike for something like $1500 
> new, rides it for several years and gets more than half his money back.  Good 
> deal for him.  Meanwhile, a modestly equipped Rivendell road bike climbed to 
> ~$2200 in price so the buyer got a decent deal as well.  
> 
> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:00:41 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Not mine, but it's in Connecticut, so we have lots of listers who could scope 
> it out for you:
> 
> ebay Redwood in GREEN
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[David Banzer]

In addition to the max tire size of 38mm, the flyer states that it'll fit a 
35mm with fenders. Anyone able to do this in practice?

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:35:09 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html
>
> The Rambouillet fits up to 700x38mm tires, according to the flyer.  The 
> Redwood flyer also claims 700x38 clearance:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/redflyer/index.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Peter Morgano]

The hunt continues... Gotta get auction sniper for those must have items.
Good luck!
On Feb 27, 2014 8:31 PM, "David Banzer"  wrote:

> Unfortunately it didn't go to me. I happened to be in a meeting, and was
> outbid and forgot to raise my max bid. Oh well. Since I did justify money
> for a new bike, I guess I'm on the hunt now.
> David
> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[Tim Gavin]

David-

You've seen this auction, right?  Three XXL tall bikes, sold as one lot:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tall-Huge-Big-XXL-XXXL-Rivendell-Panasonic-Cannondale-/151241231527?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item2336ae0ca7


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:31 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Unfortunately it didn't go to me. I happened to be in a meeting, and was
> outbid and forgot to raise my max bid. Oh well. Since I did justify money
> for a new bike, I guess I'm on the hunt now.
> David
> Chicago
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

[David Banzer]

I have. 65/66 really is my ideal size. 68 is probably too big. That is an 
intriguing offer though if it went for the opening bid, and he is offering 
to meet up to 200 miles, which makes it completely do-able for me to pick 
them up.
David

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>
> David-
>
> You've seen this auction, right?  Three XXL tall bikes, sold as one lot:  
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tall-Huge-Big-XXL-XXXL-Rivendell-Panasonic-Cannondale-/151241231527?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item2336ae0ca7
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:31 PM, David Banzer 
> > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately it didn't go to me. I happened to be in a meeting, and was 
>> outbid and forgot to raise my max bid. Oh well. Since I did justify money 
>> for a new bike, I guess I'm on the hunt now.
>> David
>> Chicago
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