[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
When I test rode a 61 Bleriot versus a Kogswell, the Kogswell felt bigger at the time. Hence my purchase of that bike instead. Although did love the look of the Bleriot. Then again - Esteban has that Kogswell as I never could get totally comfortable on it. Probably could have on the Bleriot. Oh well, another opportunity wasted. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 12, 3:07 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I have an 89cm PHB, and the 61cm Bleriot was a touch small. I believe due to their lower bb and possibly slacker seat tube. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: I am 5’-8.5”, 85 cm PBH, and I ride a 59 cm Bleriot very comfortably. Leg length can vary considerably relative to height. *-- **Jon “Papa” Grant *Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 *Drawings — all sorts * -- *From: *Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com *Reply-To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Date: *Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:12:35 -0700 *To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [RBW] Re: The Bleriot Build... I'm 5' 9 and bought the 57cm B-lo, and have regretted it every time I get on it. I like the bike well enough, but it's too small. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Man...I am 5'9 and 59 would be WAY too big for me. Maybe I have stubby legs. :) On Jun 12, 6:36 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: All that said, Bob is building me another bike. So that one [a full- on/purpose-built Rando bike w/SS couplers] BB does this style of bike real well. It should be a very worthy replacement. Plus the Bleriot [Big Dummy and Pugsley], and I am covered in my estimate. Adequately covered I guess ;) On Jun 12, 4:58 am, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly on one hand [so many fantastic memories, plus... how can I even begin to process personally what that bike has done for with me?], and excitedly on the other [because it kind of means Success, look what you've accomplished... ] the answer is, Yes I am. The Bob Brown custom [what I call BBC#1 to differentiate from my wife's Bob Brown BBC#2], while it's gone through about 20 different incarnations as my body has changed in the last 4.5 years and is still sprite and nimble in its current setup, has a geometry that no longer can really be altered through components and adjustments to suit my body. It's what I call, Comfortably uncomfortable. I am stripping it down to just frame fork and packing it away. I'll never sell it [how could I?] but I am of the mind that it is time to look forward. Some of the parts will go onto the Bleriot, some to the Parts Bin. All that said, Bob is building me another bike. So that one [a full- on/purpose-built Rando bike w/SS couplers], plus the Bleriot [Big Dummy and Pugsley], and I am covered in my estimate. After quite a bit of thinking, and then talking with my wife, it's time to pack it away... but I am excited about what's next. And what's next for me is personally very big... and I'll be needing a bike that can take me into this new chapter. Made myself two basic promises at the start of all this: No.1 is intact and held close to heart, and accomplished maintained daily; No.2, well that one... it's time to start paying up on that one because I have to know what I am capable of. Heavy heart, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada [but it is kind of heavy honestly said: BBC#1 saved my life]... -Scott On Jun 11, 2:52 pm, Jansenh blink...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Used to follow your blog (but didn't post much). Are you retiring your Bob Brown, or is the Bleriot meant to compliment (i.e. different purpose build). On Jun 11, 12:52 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks... Yes, it's a 59. I am 5ft 9in when standing without my wife nearby, 5ft 10.5in when she's around [I have a tendency to give-in to the 'life-long-drummers'/5-years-on-a-bike-cyclist/years-of-being- overweight slump' my spine enjoys, that is until my wife is nearby... and she makes me stand up straight by jabbing me in my ribcage]. I am curious about the Hetres, and plan to try them sometime soon. Hopefully today I'll get some additional parts installed and post more photos... -Scott On Jun 11, 5:46 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I guess I did not realize you were so tall (of course I have only seen you in flickr photos on my computer screen. That looks to be a 59, correct? Anyway, it is shaping up fine. Nice SON up front, King in the back, Velocitys. You will really be able to put some miles on that bike. Give
Re: [RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
Curious: what would the SH offer you that the Bleriot doesn't? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: 5ft 9.5in and gotta 57cm Bleriot that fits perfectly-- could have definitely gone bigger(59), but not smaller(55). Best bike ever-- though I would like to have a Sam. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
I should have said though I would like to have a Sam, too. The Bleriot is set up as a fast-ish bike with drops. Would love a Sam with cantis, albatross/mustache, bigger tires, and racks for touring/ commuting. Like this: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ Not gonna happen this year..but maybe in '11. Cheers! cm On Jun 16, 8:37 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Curious: what would the SH offer you that the Bleriot doesn't? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: 5ft 9.5in and gotta 57cm Bleriot that fits perfectly-- could have definitely gone bigger(59), but not smaller(55). Best bike ever-- though I would like to have a Sam. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
5ft 9.5in and gotta 57cm Bleriot that fits perfectly-- could have definitely gone bigger(59), but not smaller(55). Best bike ever-- though I would like to have a Sam. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
No fireplace, for that matter-we are renters and the closest we've come to a fireplace is our current house here in Portland, OR-which has a wood burning stove in the living room that doesn't work!, but... earlier today I was getting ready to dismantle my bike, couldn't, rode it one last time, and then met my girls for caffe. My wife, Amy, then told me she had a plan, We will pack it away, but when we get moved and someday settle down for good... the frameset gets hung on the wall, or over a fireplace. Ironic... So, you and her must be thinking alike. -Scott On Jun 12, 10:24 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Ok feeling a little odd duckish, I am or was, 5-11 3/4 (really? just one lousy 1/4 inch is that too much to ask?)- and my PBH is 83+ ...long torso. Scott if you have a Fireplace I hope your BBC1 gets mounted over the mantel -sounds like it deserves it. Ryan bandy legs Surface Seattle On Jun 12, 6:49 pm, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 7:24 PM, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: I hear that. I'm 5' 7 and my PBH is 85. I have a 58 cm Ram and it fits wonderfully. Of course, I have a 9 cm stem that's *just* short enough, but... I'm 5'7 with a PBH of 80cm. My 54cm Quickbeam and 55cm AHH both fit great (I use 9cm stems and Noodle bars). Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
When I straddle my Bleriot [even in it's 'naked' state of just frameset wheelset], it fits me perfectly in terms of SO height @59. Looking forward to getting some components on 'er so I can see feel the differences betwixt it and BBC#1. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
I totally believe that PBH size varies greatly. I was just shocked that I am as out of proportion as I am. :) On Jun 12, 4:39 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: When I straddle my Bleriot [even in it's 'naked' state of just frameset wheelset], it fits me perfectly in terms of SO height @59. Looking forward to getting some components on 'er so I can see feel the differences betwixt it and BBC#1. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
Johnny Alien wrote: I totally believe that PBH size varies greatly. I was just shocked that I am as out of proportion as I am. :) --- Our family doctor says frequently, ³There¹s a wide range of normal.² -- Jon ³Daddy Long Legs -- and Wide Butt² Grant, in steamy Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
On Sat, 2010-06-12 at 15:23 -0700, Johnny Alien wrote: I totally believe that PBH size varies greatly. I was just shocked that I am as out of proportion as I am. :) I used to work with a guy who was exactly the same height as me. I ride a 59-60cm frame; he rides at most a 56. We stood side by side, shoulder to shoulder one time in front of the mirror in the mens' room at work. His waist line was 6-7 lower than mine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
I hear that. I'm 5' 7 and my PBH is 85. I have a 58 cm Ram and it fits wonderfully. Of course, I have a 9 cm stem that's _just_ short enough, but... On 6/12/2010 3:39 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Sat, 2010-06-12 at 15:23 -0700, Johnny Alien wrote: I totally believe that PBH size varies greatly. I was just shocked that I am as out of proportion as I am. :) I used to work with a guy who was exactly the same height as me. I ride a 59-60cm frame; he rides at most a 56. We stood side by side, shoulder to shoulder one time in front of the mirror in the mens' room at work. His waist line was 6-7 lower than mine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
I'm 5'8 on a good day, 85 cm pbh, and have always been most comfortable on 58-59 cm Riv-proportioned bikes. Early in my bike career, the bike fitting guru at the shop where I was working expressed shock and dismay that I would ride such a large frame. He suggested that I'd be a better fit on a 52 cm bike. I tried several in that size, which was high comedy: knees nearly hitting the bars, etc. On the other hand, with the expanded geo of the Hillbornes, I could be happy with either a 52 or a 56. On Jun 12, 5:39 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-06-12 at 15:23 -0700, Johnny Alien wrote: I totally believe that PBH size varies greatly. I was just shocked that I am as out of proportion as I am. :) I used to work with a guy who was exactly the same height as me. I ride a 59-60cm frame; he rides at most a 56. We stood side by side, shoulder to shoulder one time in front of the mirror in the mens' room at work. His waist line was 6-7 lower than mine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 7:24 PM, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: I hear that. I'm 5' 7 and my PBH is 85. I have a 58 cm Ram and it fits wonderfully. Of course, I have a 9 cm stem that's *just* short enough, but... I'm 5'7 with a PBH of 80cm. My 54cm Quickbeam and 55cm AHH both fit great (I use 9cm stems and Noodle bars). Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.